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Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-22 Thread Thomas Hochstein
gregor herrmann schrieb: > I also know from personal experience in (non-software) volunteer > organizations, and a friend of mine has written her diploma thesis on > this topic researching yet another NGO, that a setup with a volunteer > board/committee/chairperson/president and employed > executi

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-22 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le vendredi, 19 mars 2021, 10.38:08 h CET Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help > smooth the internal working of organizations, I know at least of Django > with its fellowship program: > https://www.djangoproject.com

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-20 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 23:20:58 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Leaving out the detail of Debian paying someone for work, this has one more > thing that can backfire hard, as I just could witness in an (entirely > unrelated) org: That those hired ones got more powerful than the actual > leader. Simply

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 16077 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote: There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help smooth the internal working of organizations, I know at least of Django with its fellowship program: https://www.djangoproject.com/fundraising/#fellowship-program The current

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Christian Kastner
On 19.03.21 19:47, Sruthi Chandran wrote: > The complete volunteer nature of Debian is one of the important > and attractive point that makes Debian different from other distros. The complete volunteer nature also means that certain tasks/chores get done slowly, or sometimes not at all. For examp

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, thanks for your answer! On Fri, 19 Mar 2021, Sam Hartman wrote: > Um, no. > Money is power. > The DPL should help the project achieve its goals. > The DPL should not use the project's money to achieve their own > personal agenda. I would like to respond two things:

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Hartman
introductory video or better looking website, like Raphael> finding useful projects to submit for funding to Freexian Raphael> ;-)) Um, no. Money is power. The DPL should help the project achieve its goals. The DPL should not use the project's money to achieve their own person

Re: Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Sruthi Chandran
s that have hired staff to help > smooth the internal working of organizations, I know at least of Django > with its fellowship program: > https://www.djangoproject.com/fundraising/#fellowship-program > > The current resources of Debian means that we can confidently hire at least >

Should the project hire one or two persons to help the DPL?

2021-03-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, as a followup to my former question that dressed a negative picture of the DPL role in the last years, I'd like to make a proposal and see what you all think of it. There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help smooth the internal working of organizations, I

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:50:05PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > No. You only proposed to start with the debian-keyring, and did not > promise not to diverge from it in the future. Debian has an NM > procedure and team which I've grown to trust, but an > NM-for-non-free.org process would have to g

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:50:05PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > No. You only proposed to start with the debian-keyring, and did not > promise not to diverge from it in the future. Debian has an NM > procedure and team which I've grown to trust, but an > NM-for-non-free.org process would have to g

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 03:43:47PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:38:47PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > I suspect some of our users might not want to use packages from a > > less trusted source. I would have concerns myself. > > Of course, and this was indeed one the

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 03:43:47PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:38:47PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > I suspect some of our users might not want to use packages from a > > less trusted source. I would have concerns myself. > > Of course, and this was indeed one the

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:38:47PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I suspect some of our users might not want to use packages from a > less trusted source. I would have concerns myself. Of course, and this was indeed one the prime design requirements. Do you feel your concerns are adequately addr

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:38:47PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I suspect some of our users might not want to use packages from a > less trusted source. I would have concerns myself. Of course, and this was indeed one the prime design requirements. Do you feel your concerns are adequately addr

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > [-devel and -vote CCed. Please respect the Mail-Followup-To -project. > You should really subscribe to -project, it's not that big. In any case, > I will try read and reply to any comment] I think this is relevant to debian-vote too,

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:22:28AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:25:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:15:42PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > What about recomends and sugges

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > [-devel and -vote CCed. Please respect the Mail-Followup-To -project. > You should really subscribe to -project, it's not that big. In any case, > I will try read and reply to any comment] I think this is relevant to debian-vote too,

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:22:28AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:25:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:15:42PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > What about recomends and sugges

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:25:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:15:42PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > What about recomends and suggests of contrib or non-free packages from > > > debian/main ? > > > > H

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:22:28AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:25:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:15:42PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > What about recomends and sugges

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:15:42PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > What about recomends and suggests of contrib or non-free packages from > > debian/main ? > > How should it handle it? Well, i would say that recomends and suggests fr

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:22:28AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:25:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:15:42PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > What about recomends and sugges

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:25:32AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:15:42PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > What about recomends and suggests of contrib or non-free packages from > > > debian/main ? > > > > H

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:15:42PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > What about recomends and suggests of contrib or non-free packages from > > debian/main ? > > How should it handle it? Well, i would say that recomends and suggests fr

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > What about recomends and suggests of contrib or non-free packages from > debian/main ? How should it handle it? > How will this separate setup handle this ? > What about conflicts ? What do you propose? Michael -- Michael Banc

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 03:03:36PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > [-devel and -vote CCed. Please respect the Mail-Followup-To -project. > > You should really subscribe to -project, it's not that big. In any case, > > I will try read an

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 07:48:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > What about recomends and suggests of contrib or non-free packages from > debian/main ? How should it handle it? > How will this separate setup handle this ? > What about conflicts ? What do you propose? Michael -- Michael Banc

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 03:03:36PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > [-devel and -vote CCed. Please respect the Mail-Followup-To -project. > > You should really subscribe to -project, it's not that big. In any case, > > I will try read an

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Michael Banck wrote: > once non-free is removed from debian.org. In fact, we might try to get > non-free.org running even no matter what the outcome of the general > resolution will be, provided maintainers are interested in moving their > packages there. One of the advantages of keeping non-free

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > [-devel and -vote CCed. Please respect the Mail-Followup-To -project. > You should really subscribe to -project, it's not that big. In any case, > I will try read and reply to any comment] Thanks Michael for taking the time to do thi

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > [-devel and -vote CCed. Please respect the Mail-Followup-To -project. > You should really subscribe to -project, it's not that big. In any case, > I will try read and reply to any comment] Sorry about the M-F-T. Mutt seems to have re

Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Michael Banck
might try to get non-free.org running even no matter what the outcome of the general resolution will be, provided maintainers are interested in moving their packages there. 1. Call for help While the implementation details have either been hashed out already or are mostly a matter of taste, the

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Michael Banck wrote: > once non-free is removed from debian.org. In fact, we might try to get > non-free.org running even no matter what the outcome of the general > resolution will be, provided maintainers are interested in moving their > packages there. One of the advantages of keeping non-free

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > [-devel and -vote CCed. Please respect the Mail-Followup-To -project. > You should really subscribe to -project, it's not that big. In any case, > I will try read and reply to any comment] Thanks Michael for taking the time to do thi

Re: Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 02:36:49PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > [-devel and -vote CCed. Please respect the Mail-Followup-To -project. > You should really subscribe to -project, it's not that big. In any case, > I will try read and reply to any comment] Sorry about the M-F-T. Mutt seems to have re

Proposed transition plan for non-free and call for help

2004-03-09 Thread Michael Banck
might try to get non-free.org running even no matter what the outcome of the general resolution will be, provided maintainers are interested in moving their packages there. 1. Call for help While the implementation details have either been hashed out already or are mostly a matter of taste, the

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