On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 11:03:03PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Wouter Verhelst:
> > First of all, I do think we can, per 4.1.3 (as others have already
> > pointed out). However, I don't think that is relevant; "Debian will seek
> > to do foo" doesn't mean "Debian will do foo", and "This proces
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 23:03:03 +0100, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> * Wouter Verhelst:
>> First of all, I do think we can, per 4.1.3 (as others have already
>> pointed out). However, I don't think that is relevant; "Debian will
>> seek to do foo" doesn't mean "Debian will do foo", and
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.project Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005, Horms wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 07:09:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
>> > if there *really* are some DDs who volunteer to spend their time
>> > on old postings it is fine for me but because
* Wouter Verhelst:
>> > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian
>> > will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing
>> > significance made to the Debian Private Mailing List.
>> >
>> > This process will be undertaken under the followin
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 08:21:53AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > Erm, as a point of order, as per A.2(4), the discussion period
> > begins when the resolution was proposed (18th Nov) or the last
> > amendment was accepted (which hasn't happened; the last amendment
> > not accepted was formalis
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 09:40:52AM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 04:04:31PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian
> > will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing
> > si
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:28:09 +0200, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> to, 2005-12-01 kello 09:04 -0600, Manoj Srivastava kirjoitti:
>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:35:02 +0200, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
>>
>> > I like the proposed GR by Anthony Towns. I don't think it is
>>
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 08:54:03AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Debian Project Secretary:
>
> > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian
> > will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing
> > significance made to the Debian Private Mail
to, 2005-12-01 kello 09:04 -0600, Manoj Srivastava kirjoitti:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:35:02 +0200, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > I like the proposed GR by Anthony Towns. I don't think it is against
> > our constitution, and I don't see how it can be breaking any trust,
> > since
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:35:02 +0200, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I like the proposed GR by Anthony Towns. I don't think it is against
> our constitution, and I don't see how it can be breaking any trust,
> since the authors and other affected people can prevent publication.
I like the proposed GR by Anthony Towns. I don't think it is against our
constitution, and I don't see how it can be breaking any trust, since
the authors and other affected people can prevent publication.
To make my support more concrete: I expect this GR gets passed, so I
hereby declare my avail
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:27:01 +1000, Anthony Towns said:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 04:04:31PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
>> Time Line: Proposal and amendment Friday, 18th November 2005
>> Tuesday, 29th November, 23:59:59 UTC, 2005 Discussion Period:
>> Tuesday, 29th November, 23:59:59
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It's not the mailing list policy part, it's the mandated delegation by
> the DPL. I suppose a GR can create a declassification team, but a GR
> cannot force the DPL to create one by delegation.
Well, a GR cannot force anybody to do anything, due to 2.1
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I see a glaring contradiction here: on the one hand, the opening
> paragraph talks about publishing selected posts: those with historical
> or ongoing significance, but the rest of the GR talks about
> declassifying *all* emails with stated exceptions. [...]
I d
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 04:04:31PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> Text: The actual text of the GR is:
>
> In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian
> will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing
> significance made to the Debia
* Kalle Kivimaa:
> Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> If I read the constitution correctly, you cannot decide such a thing
>> by GR.
>
> Could you give us your reasoning why this isn't "Issuing, superseding
> and withdrawing nontechnical policy documents and statements"?
It's not the m
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If I read the constitution correctly, you cannot decide such a thing
> by GR.
Could you give us your reasoning why this isn't "Issuing, superseding
and withdrawing nontechnical policy documents and statements"? In my
opinion mailing list usage rules are
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 12:36:26AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005, Horms wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 07:09:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > if there *really* are some DDs who volunteer to spend their time
> > > on old postings it is fine for me but because I think th
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Debian Project Secretary:
>
> > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian
> > will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing
> > significance made to the Debian Private Mailing List.
> >
> >
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005, Horms wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 07:09:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > if there *really* are some DDs who volunteer to spend their time
> > on old postings it is fine for me but because I think there are
> > much more valuable tasks to do for the benefit of Debian I
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 07:09:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
>
> > Propose that the Debian project resolve that the process
> > defined in the Proposal will be applied only for the future
> > content of debian-private maili
* Debian Project Secretary:
> In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian
> will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing
> significance made to the Debian Private Mailing List.
>
> This process will be undertaken under the following cons
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
Propose that the Debian project resolve that the process
defined in the Proposal will be applied only for the future
content of debian-private mailing list.
I for myself see no real technical benefit in publishing the ar
On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 04:04:31PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> Time Line:
>Proposal and amendment Friday, 18th November 2005
> Tuesday, 29th November, 23:59:59 UTC, 2005
>Discussion Period: Tuesday, 29th November, 23:59:59 UTC, 2005 -
Erm, as
Time Line:
Proposal and amendment Friday, 18th November 2005
Tuesday, 29th November, 23:59:59 UTC, 2005
Discussion Period: Tuesday, 29th November, 23:59:59 UTC, 2005 -
Proposer: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seconds:
1. Anibal Monsalve Salazar
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