On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Kurt, my inclination was to consider this change as falling under
> Constitution §A.1.3 as a change that "does not alter the meaning" of
> the proposal.
Since you don't actually need seconders under §4.2.1, and you are the
proposer of the original o
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:33:24AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end, the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including, but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructure a
Hi!
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:33:24AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end, the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including, but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructu
Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 11:33:24, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:36:50AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> > > Even better, now with attachments!
> >
> > There is yet another pronoun I have missed. Please find a patch
> > attached.
>
> Applied (wording / punctuation f
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Am 19.09.2010 17:06, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
> On su, 2010-09-19 at 11:33 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:36:50AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
Even better, now with attachments!
>>> There is yet another pronoun I
On su, 2010-09-19 at 11:33 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:36:50AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> > > Even better, now with attachments!
> > There is yet another pronoun I have missed. Please find a patch
> > attached.
>
> Applied (wording / punctuation fix), thanks!
>
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:07:04AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Toni Mueller writes:
>
> > I am uncomfortable with this wording:
> >
> > > * Active contributors of non-packaging work, which share Debian values
> >
> > s/which/who/, imho. Are any native speakers around?
>
> My opinion as a NSoE mat
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:40:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
> I'm hereby introducing two changes:
>
> a) dropping the name "Debian Contributor"
>(attachment 0001-remove-the-term-Debian-Contributor.patch)
>
> b) fixing punctuation as suggested by Kumar Appaiah [1], thanks!
>(att
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:36:50AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> > Even better, now with attachments!
> There is yet another pronoun I have missed. Please find a patch
> attached.
Applied (wording / punctuation fix), thanks!
New current text is attached.
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Toni Mueller writes:
> I am uncomfortable with this wording:
>
> > * Active contributors of non-packaging work, which share Debian values
>
> s/which/who/, imho. Are any native speakers around?
My opinion as a NSoE matches yours on this point.
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Hi,
On Tue, 14.09.2010 at 17:53:46 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli
wrote:
> in recent events I've attended as DPL, the topic of welcoming
> non-packaging contributors as project members has been a recurring one.
> Since it was also part of my platform and since DPL terms don't last
> forever, I fee
Hi,
On 18/09/10 16:43, Toni Mueller wrote:
> On Tue, 14.09.2010 at 17:53:46 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli
> wrote:
>> in recent events I've attended as DPL, the topic of welcoming
>> non-packaging contributors as project members has been a recurring one.
>> Since it was also part of my platform an
Hi,
On Tue, 14.09.2010 at 17:53:46 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli
wrote:
> in recent events I've attended as DPL, the topic of welcoming
> non-packaging contributors as project members has been a recurring one.
> Since it was also part of my platform and since DPL terms don't last
> forever, I fee
Dear Zack,
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:56:32AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:40:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > I'm hereby introducing two changes:
>
> Even better, now with attachments!
There is yet another pronoun I have missed. Please find a patch
atta
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:40:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > My question was basicly if you wanted to make that change
> > at that time. My interpretation is that you didn't propose
> > to change it at that time, but that you would do it at some
> > later time.
> >
> > The question was
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:40:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I'm hereby introducing two changes:
Even better, now with attachments!
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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 06:42:18PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > Kurt, my inclination was to consider this change as falling under
> > Constitution §A.1.3 as a change that "does not alter the meaning" of the
> > proposal.
>
> That would be A.1.6?
Yes, totally, sorry for the typo.
> My question w
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 06:52:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > In case these changes are regarded as more than editorial (which is your
> > call, but I feel they are), the new proposal requires new seconds
> I'm not sure why you think the proposal requires seconds if it
> replaces an older
* Charles Plessy:
> I wonder why not simply inviting the Debian Account Managers to
> accept the long term contributors as DDs, even if they to not
> maintain packages? Would an amendement be welcome?
Seems reasonable. (I'm among those who believe that voting rights are
more fundamental than upl
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:45:52AM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:48:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>
> > > I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded.
>
> > Please don't go and make this more confusing for me. As far as I
> > can tell this wa
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 04:08:50PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > > I'll let the patch linger for a couple of days -- actually, I'll be away
> > > for most part of tomorrow -- and then I'll apply it, posting a new
> > > complete d
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:51:51PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Stefano's DPL platform is actually quite clear on the subject:
> After seeing the results of this choice, it will always be possible to
> change the procedure, especially if a later DPL is elected with a
> platform that goes more to
Le Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 02:03:01PM +0100, Matthew Johnson a écrit :
>
> OTOH, if we pass a GR that looks like "we'll give them upload rights" (because
> it just says "they are DDs") and then they aren't given upload rights some
> people might feel upset that they voted for it. Just because it's no
On Thu Sep 16 14:58, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > I don't think we should open a second way to get upload rights to the
> > archive,
> > so I would *not* want to remove that part.
>
> So do you think that if “albeit without upload access to the Debian archive”
> is
> not present, the GR will preven
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:48:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded.
> Please don't go and make this more confusing for me. As far as I
> can tell this wasn't meant to be amendment yet. He will probably
> accept this or something si
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > I'll let the patch linger for a couple of days -- actually, I'll be away
> > for most part of tomorrow -- and then I'll apply it, posting a new
> > complete draft here shortly thereafter.
> So I'm not considering this currently as an
Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:02:34PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit :
> On 09/15/2010 02:16 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> >>
> >> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
> >>
> >> * Endorse the idea th
On 09/15/2010 02:16 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
>>
>> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
>>
>> * Endorse the idea that contributors of non-packaging work might become
>> Debian Developers, alb
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 02:13:12PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
> > The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> > To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> > inc
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:26:59AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
> > extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into
> > second-class members
Paul Wise wrote:
> Stefano you seem to be 5 years too late with this GR, fjp's AM report
> looks like he was accepted primarily for his work on documentation and
> translations:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2005/02/msg00017.html
Not really. From my original advocation of Frans:
| B
Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:01:47PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:16:00PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > It seems to me that, if “albeit without upload access to the Debian
> > archive” were removed, it would not close the possibility for the
> > people in charge
Hi,
Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to: package maintenan
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:16:00PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> It seems to me that, if “albeit without upload access to the Debian
> archive” were removed, it would not close the possibility for the
> people in charge to difference of status.
> Would such a change be a happy end for everybody ?
On 15/09/10 at 21:00 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Attached you can find a tentative wording of a proposal which remove the
> term "Debian Contributors", pretty similar to the version I had before
> posting (shame on me for changing that!), but maybe a bit better in that
> it doesn't the horri
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:20:54PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 04:04:24PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > > * Active contributors of non-packaging work, which share Debian values
> > > and are ready to uphold Debian Foundation Documents, deserve the
> > > opportuni
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 02:13:12PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded.
Thanks for your appreciation, but wait! :-) There are no need of seconds
for this change (unless some of the previous seconders considers it
unfaithful with respect to the
Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
>
> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
>
> * Endorse the idea that contributors of non-packaging work might become
> Debian Developers, albeit without upload access to the Debian archive.
>
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructur
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:26:59AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
> extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into
> second-class members of the project. A way to do that is to avoid
> giving them a name, and emph
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:26:59AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
>If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
>extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into second-class
>members of the project. A way to do that is to avoid giving them a name,
>and emphas
On 09:26 Wed 15 Sep , Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
> extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into
> second-class
> members of the project. A way to do that is to avoid giving them a name,
> and emphasize the fac
Le Tue, Sep 14, 2010 mat 06:29:24PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> Charles Plessy writes:
>
> > after seeing the torrent of seconds, I am still puzzled if this GR is a
> > progress or a regression: is the take home message that Debian should be
> > more open, or that some members must not have u
On ke, 2010-09-15 at 09:26 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
> extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into
> second-class
> members of the project. A way to do that is to avoid giving them a name,
> and emphasize
On 15/09/10 at 12:08 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Naming (raised by at least Luca and Lars [8,9])
> ==
>
> Ah, what a mess!
>
> Until a few minutes before posting the GR proposal, the text contained a
> s/Debian Members/non-uploading Debian Developers/ and befor
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 04:04:24PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > * Active contributors of non-packaging work, which share Debian values
> > and are ready to uphold Debian Foundation Documents, deserve the
> > opportunity for becoming Debian project members.
>
>
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:53:46PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> [ Draft GR text below, look for "-". M-F-T set to -vote. ]
[ Disclaimer: I'm attending an academic conference this week and I'll be
at the Italian mini-DebConf in the week-end. That's why I'll be
sluggish in participati
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Kumar Appaiah
wrote:
> The word "Debian Developer" seems to have become synonymous with
> those who package or write software for Debian. Whether that was
> intentional or unintentional is not known to me, but this aspect is
> what several potential contributors s
Dear Paul,
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:25:09AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> Stefano you seem to be 5 years too late with this GR, fjp's AM report
> looks like he was accepted primarily for his work on documentation and
> translations:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2005/02/msg00017.html
Charles Plessy writes:
> after seeing the torrent of seconds, I am still puzzled if this GR is a
> progress or a regression: is the take home message that Debian should be
> more open, or that some members must not have upload rights ? When a
> member does not have upload rights, is it for the pr
Stefano you seem to be 5 years too late with this GR, fjp's AM report
looks like he was accepted primarily for his work on documentation and
translations:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2005/02/msg00017.html
In addition, as cate pointed out, the constitution already allows
DAM/FD to acce
Le Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 06:56:01PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
>
> My own preference is [B] > [A] > [original GR proposal]. But I'd like to
> hear some other opinions before working on a draft amendment for either
> [A] or [B].
Hi Lucas and everybody,
after seeing the torrent of seconds, I a
Christoph Berg writes:
> Re: Luca Bruno 2010-09-14 <20100914120120.c0d3f45b.lu...@debian.org>
>> I'd thus propose not to call them Debian Contributors (DC) now, and let
>> NM/DAM team pick an appropriate name when reforming the procedures.
> The idea was discussed, and that's the name we came up
Charles Plessy writes:
> I agree with the above, accepting as DDs contributors who do not
> maintain packages, but your proposal is different: it establishes a new
> class of project members, who differ by not having upload rights.
> I suppose that the goal is to avoid disruptive NMUs and damage
Hi,
Lucas Nussbaum a écrit , Le 14/09/2010 18:56:
> While I support welcoming non-packaging contributors as project members,
> I am concerned that we are creating the concept of second-class DDs (or
> at least, that it will be communicated like that).
>
> I see two different ways to avoid that:
>
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This time with the key that's still in the keyring, only noticed after
sending that I haven't got it replaced in the keyring yet.
* Stefano Zacchiroli [2010-09-14 10:53:46 CEST]:
> ---
On ti, 2010-09-14 at 18:56 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> My own preference is [B] > [A] > [original GR proposal]. But I'd like to
> hear some other opinions before working on a draft amendment for either
> [A] or [B].
I'd prefer [A] == [B] > [original GR proposal] > [NOTA].
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> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 07:42:58PM +0200, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote:
>
> I second this proposal.
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> Wholeheartly seconed, for all the longstanding website translators.
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Re: Gunnar Wolf 2010-09-14 <20100914170611.ge26...@gwolf.org>
> Yes, the naming clearly stems from when we were a flatter, simpler
> project with all-or-nothing participation. But we now have Debian
> developers which are not DDs, Debian maintainers which are not DM, and
> will surely have Debian c
Jakub Wilk writes:
> * Lucas Nussbaum , 2010-09-14, 18:56:
>>[B] Give everybody upload rights anyway. If we trust them to influence
>>the project's decisions through voting, we should probably trust them to
>>do the right thing and not upload packages when they don't feel
>>qualified to. After all
* Jakub Wilk , 2010-09-14, 19:18:
* Lucas Nussbaum , 2010-09-14, 18:56:
My own preference is [B] > [A] > [original GR proposal]. But I'd like to
hear some other opinions before working on a draft amendment for either
[A] or [B].
Same here.
Just to clarify: I agree both with Lucas ranking and
Hi,
Le mardi 14 septembre 2010 10:53:46, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:53:46PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including b
* Lucas Nussbaum , 2010-09-14, 18:56:
While I support welcoming non-packaging contributors as project members,
I am concerned that we are creating the concept of second-class DDs (or
at least, that it will be communicated like that).
I see two different ways to avoid that:
[A] Avoid giving DDs
Lars Wirzenius dijo [Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:41:24PM +0100]:
> > We are calling everyone "Debian Developer" (cf. the constitution). DCs
> > are a subset of DDs. We realize that we probably need a handy
> > expression for "DD with upload rights" [1], but we don't have one yet.
> > (Ideas?)
>
> Coul
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Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructure
Christoph Berg dijo [Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:30:57PM +0200]:
> > As we still remember the big "on terminology" thread[0] and we don't
> > want here to create more confusion nor to start the big renaming race,
> > I think it will be better to leave terminology out of this GR, as this
> > will introd
MJ Ray dijo [Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:26:01AM +0100]:
> "Giacomo A. Catenazzi"
> > So you are already free to do it by delegating. A GR would be used
> > to overrule your decision, but, as you already noted, there is
> > already a general consensus on the issue.
>
> Equally, the DPL is empowered t
Hi,
While I support welcoming non-packaging contributors as project members,
I am concerned that we are creating the concept of second-class DDs (or
at least, that it will be communicated like that).
I see two different ways to avoid that:
[A] Avoid giving DDs without upload rights any special n
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:53:46PM +0900]:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but n
On 12238 March 1977, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to: pa
On 17:53 Tue 14 Sep , Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:53:46 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli
wrote:
...
> * Active contributors of non-packaging work, which share Debian values
> and are ready to uphold Debian Foundation Documents, deserve the
> opportunity for becoming Debian project members.
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On 09/14/2010 10:53 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types o
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Hi!
* Stefano Zacchiroli [2010-09-14 10:53:46 CEST]:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from va
On ti, 2010-09-14 at 13:14 +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> Re: Lars Wirzenius 2010-09-14 <1284461384.2573.26.ca...@havelock>
> > I do not like the introduction of yet another class of person developing
> > Debian. I propose we call everyone with voting rights in Debian a
> > "Debian Developer" (deve
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:53:46PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> [ Draft GR text below, look for "-". M-F-T set to -vote. ]
>
> Dear Debian project,
> in recent events I've attended as DPL, the topic of welcoming
> non-packaging contributors as project members has been a recurring one.
Am Dienstag 14 September 2010, 10:53:46 schrieb Stefano Zacchiroli:
> [ Draft GR text below, look for "-". M-F-T set to -vote. ]
>
> Dear Debian project,
> in recent events I've attended as DPL, the topic of welcoming
> non-packaging contributors as project members has been a recurring one.
Re: Lars Wirzenius 2010-09-14 <1284461384.2573.26.ca...@havelock>
> I do not like the introduction of yet another class of person developing
> Debian. I propose we call everyone with voting rights in Debian a
> "Debian Developer" (development not being restricted to coding and
> packaging).
We are
On ti, 2010-09-14 at 17:53 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
>
> * Endorse the idea that contributors of non-packaging work might become
> Debian Developers without upload rights to the Debian archive. These
> new developers
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:53:46PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including b
Re: Luca Bruno 2010-09-14 <20100914120120.c0d3f45b.lu...@debian.org>
> As we still remember the big "on terminology" thread[0] and we don't
> want here to create more confusion nor to start the big renaming race,
> I think it will be better to leave terminology out of this GR, as this
> will introd
"Giacomo A. Catenazzi"
> So you are already free to do it by delegating. A GR would be used
> to overrule your decision, but, as you already noted, there is
> already a general consensus on the issue.
Equally, the DPL is empowered to start a GR to do this. I'm very
happy to see a DPL checking th
Re: Giacomo A. Catenazzi 2010-09-14 <4c8f40be.9050...@debian.org>
> I don't understand the procedure. You are already empowered to do it:
>
> 8.1 The Project Leader's Delegates:
> 1. [...]
> 2. may make certain decisions which the Leader may not make
> directly, including approving or expelling De
Stefano Zacchiroli scrisse:
> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
>
> * Endorse the idea that contributors of non-packaging work might
> become Debian Developers without upload rights to the Debian archive.
> These new developers shall be recognized as Debian Cont
Am Dienstag, den 14.09.2010, 17:53 +0900 schrieb Stefano Zacchiroli:
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including b
Le Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 05:53:46PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
>
> Of all those topics, one topic *might* have consensus already: accepting
> as DDs contributors which have contributed a lot to Debian doing
> non-packaging work, which intend to continue doing so, and which are
> ready to u
Le mardi 14 septembre 2010 à 17:53 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> ---
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> includin
Le mardi 14 septembre 2010 à 17:53 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
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> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> includin
* Stefano Zacchiroli [100914 10:53]:
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> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to: package mai
On 14.09.10 10:53, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Of all those topics, one topic *might* have consensus already: accepting
as DDs contributors which have contributed a lot to Debian doing
non-packaging work, which intend to continue doing so, and which are
ready to uphold our Foundation Documents. M
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> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructur
[ Draft GR text below, look for "-". M-F-T set to -vote. ]
Dear Debian project,
in recent events I've attended as DPL, the topic of welcoming
non-packaging contributors as project members has been a recurring one.
Since it was also part of my platform and since DPL terms don't last
forever,
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