Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
> On 4 November 2014 16:25, Gerrit Pape wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 04:37:45PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> >> Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> > Gerrit Pape writes:
> >> > > On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 10:41:54PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> >> > > > Real problems? Apa
On 4 November 2014 16:25, Gerrit Pape wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 04:37:45PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
>> Russ Allbery wrote:
>> > Gerrit Pape writes:
>> > > On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 10:41:54PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>> > > > Real problems? Apart from a couple of more reasonable peo
oices at various times on various projects, and I think anyone
with experience in the field could (and should be able to) state a
compelling argument for both sides in, say, a debate setting.
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On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 04:37:45PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Gerrit Pape writes:
> > > On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 10:41:54PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > > Real problems? Apart from a couple of more reasonable people, I have
> > > > yet to see systemd criticism in
Russ Allbery wrote:
> Gerrit Pape writes:
> > What is the reason that one can't easily run logind, or even better a
> > systemd process running logind and possibly other services, under the
> > runsv program from the runit init scheme, or through /etc/inittab?
>
> I believe it's that logind relie
Gerrit Pape writes:
> What is the reason that one can't easily run logind, or even better a
> systemd process running logind and possibly other services, under the
> runsv program from the runit init scheme, or through /etc/inittab?
I believe it's that logind relies on the cgroups setup that's d
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 06:58:10AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> > On 28 October 2014 12:12, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:30:50AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> > > > Has anyone actually tested the viability of running systemd in
> > > > non-P
Hi,
Andreas Florath:
> Technical details, patches (hacks!) and status can be found on github [1]
>
If you proceed with exploring this (IMHO you should), could you please
teach it to check for getpid()==1 in _one_ place, where you can override
things (perhaps by adding a new mode '--mostly-system'
Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> On 28 October 2014 12:12, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > This is nice and all, but how to you tell such a “sub-init” which
> > services have been already started and which services it has to start
> > itself?
>
> The point of a sub-init would be to start one specific service.
Dear all!
I'm trying to run multiple init systems in parallel.
First step: run systemd with PID!=1.
It does not run out of the box: hacking systemd is needed [2] [3]
Nevertheless I got a system up and running - but it's still degraded:
4 S root 1 0 0 80 0 - 1052 - 11:28
On 28 October 2014 12:12, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> This is nice and all, but how to you tell such a “sub-init” which
> services have been already started and which services it has to start
> itself?
The point of a sub-init would be to start one specific service.
Basically the idea would be that
Richard Hartmann wrote:
Has anyone actually tested the viability of running systemd in
non-PID-1 mode?
If yes, does this work and would it continue to work?
If yes, is there any hard commitment from upstream in this regard?
Assuming the answers to all of
Dear all,
as probably most others, I am deeply unhappy with the current state of affairs.
All sides have compelling arguments, which means, to me, that it would
be a benefit to all involved if there was a commonly accepted
solution.
Maybe there's still room for rough consensus[1], however unlikel
The first go at the DPL Debate Logs have been uploaded to
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Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> Additional people to help select questions, prod the discussion
> channels, and otherwise actually make things happen are needed too.
my biggest flaw is that I'll never be elected DPL [17:02:15]
so... I'm happy to try h
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Also, people who are willing to conduct the annual Debates will
> have less time to coordinate and plan, since the nomination period
> has been shortened, and the debate would need to be held in the
> later part of march.
I
From the debate:
09:32 Anthony: What was your biggest triumph over the
past 12 months? Your biggest mistake?
09:34 the thing that pleased me the most was all the things
getting freed -- the new GFDL drafts, the new
creative commons
Don Armstrong schreef:
> This is just a quick reminder that the DPL Debate will happen in
> #debian-dpl-debate on irc.debian.org in approximately 12 hours (21:30
> UTC).
>
> Discussion will happen in #debian-dpl-discuss.
>
> Also, if you have questions that you'd lik
This is just a quick reminder that the DPL Debate will happen in
#debian-dpl-debate on irc.debian.org in approximately 12 hours (21:30
UTC).
Discussion will happen in #debian-dpl-discuss.
Also, if you have questions that you'd like to have asked during the
debate, please feel free to e-mail
Don't forget, the DPL Debate will be on IRC in #debian-dpl-debate on
irc.debian.org (OFTC) at 21:30 UTC, March 10th 2007, ending at 00:30
UTC, March 11th 2007. Discussion of the debate will occur in
#debian-dpl-discuss on the same network.
The executive summary:
Start at 21:30
Barring any serious last minute objections[1] the DPL Debate will be
held in #debian-dpl-debate on irc.debian.org (OFTC) at 21:30 UTC on
Saturday March 10th, 2007, ending around 00:30 UTC on the 11th.
I'll be making an announcement shortly to -announce reiterating the
debate rules.
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 18:03:19 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> > Most of the candidates have responded to my requests for scheduling
> > information, but:
> >
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I guess this should be <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?
Err,
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 18:03:19 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> Most of the candidates have responded to my requests for scheduling
> information, but:
>
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I guess this should be <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?
Cheers,
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007, Don Armstrong wrote:
> I'd like to make a decision on the time for the debate within the
> next few days, so if you have serious objections to either method,
> you need to make them known.
Most of the candidates have responded to my requests for scheduling
in
Mohammed Adnène Trojette (adn)
[If I've missed you, please respond to let me know.]
> Also, if any of you have comments about the format of the debate now
> would be an appropriate time to raise them.
>
> http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/projects/debian/dpl_debates/deb
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 01:20:06AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> I'd like to reiterate the solicitation for volunteers to help run the
> DPL Debate: I need at least two other people who would be willing to
> volunteer to help me both in the organization of the debate (selectio
I'd like to reiterate the solicitation for volunteers to help run the
DPL Debate: I need at least two other people who would be willing to
volunteer to help me both in the organization of the debate (selection
of initial questions, format suggestions, etc.) and the actual running
of the d
* Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-20 01:49]:
> I think we really should be asking some of these questions throughout
> the year, instead of jammed into a brief 3 week period.
I agree. I actually wanted to express someting like this but I know
it didn't came across. What I wanted to sa
Anthony Towns
> GFDL (relating to the "can't chmod a document" and "can't distribute a
> transparent copy separately") -- it might be fair to be strict about that,
> because we've been bitten by not being strict in the past on issues such
> as the pine license, but otoh, there's been reported writ
tes.
> Some of these questions are really interesting and I encourage
> everyone to think about them, but if people wanted specific answers
> from the candidates they should have asked earlier.
I was kind of sitting on this particular batch of questions 'cause I
wanted ammunition for the
Okay, so I'm going to ignore the end-of-campaigning thing and answer
the debate questions that didn't get asked 'til later, since I suspect
at least a few of them are probably pretty important at least to whoever
asked them. Or, at any rate, I'll answer some of the ones I
Ari:
What will the cabal do to heat its coffee without flamewars?
I don't know, you'll have to ask the cabal.
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* Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-19 02:15]:
> I don't know if the candidates wish to answer these outside of the
> campaign period or not, but if they wish to, feel free.
I hope they will collectively agree not to. Surely 3 weeks of
questions should be enough for all of us. Some of t
I don't know if the candidates wish to answer these outside of the
campaign period or not, but if they wish to, feel free. [For some
reason we always seem to have a traditional moratorium on answering
questions during the voting period... never quite figured out why.]
Jeroen:
How will you persona
On 18 Mar 2006, Thaddeus H. Black stated:
> I wrote:
>> MJ Ray and I are preparing DPL Debate transcripts
>> now. I am de-interleaving the fine chaos of the
>> Debate's Part III free-for-all line by line, producing a
>> coherently readable semantical transcript
I wrote:
> MJ Ray and I are preparing DPL Debate transcripts
> now. I am de-interleaving the fine chaos of the
> Debate's Part III free-for-all line by line, producing a
> coherently readable semantical transcript.
I have just seen the color-coded DPL Debate log Manoj
has post
One or two of you have asked me for the list of questions I had gathered
pre-debate from you all. After consulting with Don, I can see no reason
not to post the list now. Here it is, for whom it interests.
So little time remains before the campaign's close, it would be
unreasonable to ad
, David
Nusinow, Thaddeus H. Black, Martin-Éric Racine, and MJ Ray, the
Debian project leader debates went off with impressive smoothness and
dispatch. I would like to thank them, and others who helped, on
behalf of the project.
A transcript of the debate can be found at=20
http
MJ Ray and I are preparing DPL Debate transcripts
now. I am de-interleaving the fine chaos of the
Debate's Part III free-for-all line by line, producing a
coherently readable semantical transcript. When done
de-interleaving, I should give the candidates 24 hours
to review and co
Don't forget, the DPL Debate will be on IRC in #debian-dpl-debate on
irc.debian.org (Freenode) at 22:30 UTC Thursday, March 16th, ending at
01:00 UTC Friday, March 17th. Discussion of the debate will occur in
#debian-dpl-discuss.
*** The executive summary ***
Start at 2006-03-15 22:30
On debian-devel-announce, Thaddeus H. Black wrote:
> CALL FOR DEBATE QUESTIONS
>
> What do you want Don to ask the candidates? Please think of questions
> for the candidates now. This is your chance to get a direct, live
> response in the debate arena from Debian's nex
[The post to debian-devel-announce inconveniently lacks a proper
Mail-Followup-To header, because I omitted it. If you follow up,
naturally please follow up here not there.]
The candidates for Debian Project Leader will debate one another live on
IRC Thursday, 16 March 2006 from 22:30 UTC to 01
Hi Everyone,
There is an error in the currently posted transcript for part 1 of the
debate [1]. The following section, in "Managing DPL Duties and Life":
AngusLees:
I consider travelling as an extremely important factor of being
DPL. Before nominating, I carefully considered
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[Helen Faulkner]
> Having just run the 2005 DPL IRC debate (and a stressful experience it
> was too), Martin Krafft and I would like to get feedback on what people
> thought of the debate and how it was run.
Thank you, Helen and Martin, for a job well done.
I think the most useful th
Hi folks,
The platforms for the candidates for the project leader are
available as links on the page http://www.debian.org/vote/2005/vote_001
or, http://www.debian.org/vote/2005/platforms/. The rebuttals are
also in place.
The following is a ***DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT*** ballot for
Hi,
Thanks to stellar efforts on the part of Helen Faulkner and
Martin Krafft, the Debian project leader debates went off very
well. I would like to thank them, and others who helped, on behalf of
the project.
A transcript of the debate can be found at
http://www.debian.org
Hi All,
Having just run the 2005 DPL IRC debate (and a stressful experience it
was too), Martin Krafft and I would like to get feedback on what people
thought of the debate and how it was run.
Suggestions for future debates will be very welcome, not that I am
planning to volunteer to do that again
Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The accounting solution at SPI is still tenuous. Illness, accident or simple
> boredom could still easily lead us to the situation we had before. The
> solution you've outlined could work but it increases complexity rather than
> removing it. I don't k
A (xhtml, line-numbered, colourised) log of #debian-dpl-debate is available
at http://people.debian.org/~mjr/debian_dpl_debate.html
Let me know if you want reasonable presentation mods.
Like the BBC says: other logs may exist.
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Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Really, considering that Debian lost enough money to buy a multi-terabyte
> storage array do you honestly feel this is a "problem that will work itself
> out"? When a person cares enough about the project to sit down and write us a
> check I do not th
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 06:05 am, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Hrm; from my archives of spi-private, I'd been complaining about the
> lack of transparency in financial mangement since 13th Jan 2003, at
> which point, aiui, donations had not been accepted at all for over six
> months. SPI members who are
Ean Schuessler wrote:
Q: In June of 2004 it became apparent that SPI had deep set
problems executing its chartered tasks.
Hrm; from my archives of spi-private, I'd been complaining about the
lack of transparency in financial mangement since 13th Jan 2003, at
which point, aiui, donations had not
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 12:24:22AM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Yamm is so huge, that Earth ran away, and Yamm stayed here in
> its place, using Gravity to keep Humans on self, and to control them.
^
> Yamm is the TRUE LEADER, you see?
Stop using me for your filthy d
> What Muppet character do you see yourself as, and why?
This is a question Yamm wants to answer (even though I took steps to
keep it away from this years election, it is still reading the lists
while I don't watch), and it is torturing me so much, I have to allow
this mail. Sorry about that.
THA
also sprach David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.12.0138 +0100]:
> Let the stress end! While it is a great experience (I learned
> much) it is also very taxing on my resources.
We really appreciate your great work. You will become part of
history as major facilitator of the largest DPL vote
also sprach Jonathan Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.13.2135 +0100]:
> Kermit the Frog. Why? Because I'm a source of calm, level-headedness
> in a madhouse filled with people running around in every direction.
You live in a mad house?
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also sprach Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.13.1401 +0100]:
> I'd like to be able to think of myself as Animal, since he has far
> too much fun. In reality, my general physical ineptitude probably
> marks me out as more of a Gonzo.
Wow, now I am not sure whether to count the above for
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 02:18:43PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
I'll keep it short and simple:
What Muppet character do you see yourself as, and why?
Kermit the Frog. Why? Because I'm a source of calm, level-headedness
in a madhouse filled with people running around in every direction.
Jonathan
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Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll keep it short and simple:
>
> What Muppet character do you see yourself as, and why?
I'd like to be able to think of myself as Animal, since he has far too
much fun. In reality, my general physical ineptitude probably marks me
out as more of a Gonzo.
On Friday 11 March 2005 13:25, martin f krafft wrote:
> ***
> 2005 DEBIAN PROJECT LEADER ELECTION IRC DEBATE
> ***
>
> The 2005 DPL IRC Debate
Andreas Schuldei dijo [Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 09:41:59PM +0100]:
> > What Muppet character do you see yourself as, and why?
>
> "Swedish Chef", since i live in Sweden and love cooking!
Careful - You are telling voters that if you get elected, Debian will
be b0rken!
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Finally, after many complications and several hundreds of bytes of
data exchanged between the involved (wow!), it is my pleasure to
announce the
***
2005 DEBIAN PROJECT LEADER ELECTION IRC DEBATE
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 02:18:43PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> I'll keep it short and simple:
>
> What Muppet character do you see yourself as, and why?
"Swedish Chef", since i live in Sweden and love cooking!
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Yep, but there is a difference between the information being available,
> > > and it
> > > being actively feeded to the NSA or whoever. And it is especially
> > > bothering if
> > > this cause undue delay in our normal activities, like aj is saying it
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 03:11:02PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 04:54:34PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:12:03AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > Sven Luther wrote:
> > > >>It's hard to take this sort of discussion as anything but an attack on
also sprach MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.09.1734 +0100]:
> Especially if an IRC debate organiser posts what looks like flamebait.
Just like any delegate, DPL candidate, or $WHATEVER, I reserve the
right to represent myself independently of any official position
I have chosen
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 14:54, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.03.0752 +0100]:
> > I don't know, maybe email debate is better, it allows for more in depth
> > discussion.
>
> ... and massive volumes of text, which n
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> also sprach Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.03.0752 +0100]:
> > I don't know, maybe email debate is better, it allows for more in depth
> > discussion.
> ... and massive volumes of text, which noone with a rea
also sprach Anthony Towns [2005.03.04.2118 +0100]:
> I think the "communication issues" are just a stand in for
> complaints of the underlying cause. If they weren't, I think the
> new.html page should be more of a solution
... not many people knew about it until recently. And there has not
been
also sprach Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.03.0752 +0100]:
> I don't know, maybe email debate is better, it allows for more in depth
> discussion.
... and massive volumes of text, which noone with a real life can
read, think about, and respond to.
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also sprach Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.03.0735 +0100]:
> Where can we put them? Submitting them "in secret" to be edited by
> the debate organizers seems incorrect.
Part of the reason why I would like to do it this way is (a) we have
to edit the questions a
also sprach MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.03.0520 +0100]:
> > Can we keep the debate questions off this list? Otherwise the
> > choice is between leaving them unanswered for a couple of weeks
> > until the debate, or having them already answered on the list,
> &
Dear Ms. Faulkner,
I read in a recent issue of Linux Magazine (European edition) that the
program "Hot Babe" is being considered as an inclusion to Debian. I find
this disappointing since it is a clearly sexist appllication. The
defense that it should be allowed because of free expression rings
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 04:54:34PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:12:03AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Sven Luther wrote:
> > >>It's hard to take this sort of discussion as anything but an attack on
> > >>ftpmaster, since there are plenty of teams in Debian that're even
martin f krafft wrote:
Hello, world.
This year's DPL debate will take place on Saturday, 19 March 2005,
at 23:00 UTC[0]. It will last for two hours. The meeting will take
place over IRC, using two channels:
Actually, we are sorry to say that this announced time for the DPL IRC
debate turned o
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:09:00AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> (1) Hrm, ftpmaster aren't doing things as quickly as normal.
> (2) Gosh, that probably means they're really busy.
> (3) I wonder what I could do that would help.
(4) I'll ask.
(5) Hmmm, no response. OK, let's see whether anyone
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:09:00AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Well, here's a simple train of thought:
>
> (1) Hrm, ftpmaster aren't doing things as quickly as normal.
> (2) Gosh, that probably means they're really busy.
> (3) I wonder what I could do that would help.
Ah, well, in how can we
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:12:03AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> >>It's hard to take this sort of discussion as anything but an attack on
> >>ftpmaster, since there are plenty of teams in Debian that're even less
> >>transparent and effective than us. But given how these sort
Anthony Towns wrote: [...]
> Well, here's a simple train of thought:
> (1) Hrm, ftpmaster aren't doing things as quickly as normal.
> (2) Gosh, that probably means they're really busy.
> (3) I wonder what I could do that would help.
I can't see why one would make the jump from 1 to 2 withou
Sven Luther wrote:
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 06:56:44PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
4) furthermore, i believe that, altough it never happened, it could well be
that the BSwhatever agency may also once it reads the notification, reject
the export authorization for a particular package, no ?
No.
Ch
Sven Luther wrote:
It's hard to take this sort of discussion as anything but an attack on
ftpmaster, since there are plenty of teams in Debian that're even less
transparent and effective than us. But given how these sorts of
But they are less a hindrance to the daily work of maintainers, and can
Matthew Garrett wrote:
(I'm not suggesting that the ftp-masters are doing their job
inadequately here,
See, that's the thing, you _are_. You can tell, because you had to
explicitly refute the idea; it's the same as being able to tell you're
being offensive when you feel the need to say "no offens
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> 3) Some would argue that this impose an additional fee or
> restriction (in the same way as a post-card licence) on our
> distribution as part of debian. (read the debian-legal posts for
> this past year or so, if you doubt).
Nothing in debian-legal has sa
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 06:56:44PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do
Anthony Towns wrote:
> There's no particular reason NEW isn't being processed -- people are
> just busy doing other things; some of which are outside Debian, others
> of which are related to getting the release out, or whatever else.
> That's not, in my opinion, something Debian developers hav
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian
> > > is
> > > reported to the US secret services or whateve
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 11:28:57AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
> There's no particular reason NEW isn't being processed -- people are
> just busy doing other things; some of which are outside Debian, others
> of which are related to getting the release out, or whatever else.
> That's not, in my
Op za, 05-03-2005 te 08:48 +0100, schreef Sven Luther:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian
> > > is
> > > reported to the US secret ser
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 11:28:57AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >I'm certainly not suggesting that they be rejected out of hand, and
> >accepting them isn't the correct decision either. Currently, though,
> >it's impossible to tell the difference between "This package is a
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 03:02:34PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > I actually think that's a good result: far better to keep track of the
> > problematic packages, than to just REJECT them with a reason like
> > "doesn't seem like a good idea" and have them randomly reup
Matthew Garrett wrote:
Anthony Towns wrote:
I think the "communication issues" are just a stand in for complaints of
the underlying cause. If they weren't, I think the new.html page should
be more of a solution --
But currently people have no idea what the underlying cause /is/, which
is certai
Anthony Towns wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> Complaints about NEW can roughly be split into three catagories:
>> 1) It takes too long
>> 2) It isn't happening
>
> These are the same issue: it's a queue, packages uploaded now will be
> processed when NEW starts getting processed regularly ag
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So what ? You are one of us, and not a potentially hostile outside agency.
PUBLIC. That means not only to "us", but to hostile things too.
Hostile things like the US Government, or *really* hostile things like
the governments of France and China.
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T
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:18:37PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >3) My package has been sitting in the queue for ages and other packages
> >have been processed
> >This is a communication problem.
>
> No, this is a policy problem. Communication is easy: hit "M" for manual
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:55:25PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> >I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian is
> >reported to the US secret services or whatever by the ftp-masters and our
> >archive handling services, and i certainly did *NOT* agr
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:02:36AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050305 09:00]:
> > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > > I have some real trouble with the fact that all the wo
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yep, but there is a difference between the information being
> available, and it being actively feeded to the NSA or whoever. And
> it is especially bothering if this cause undue delay in our normal
> activities, like aj is saying it is.
Tough. It's *pub
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian
> > > is
> > > reported to the US secr
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