Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-17 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > No need - Mark Ray did so earlier in the week. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but I think http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/03/msg00269.html was disliked, because there was a sudden surge in posting frequency, which many people do when ann

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Apologies for the delay; I've had a weekend away... ] On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 10:39:50AM +, MJ Ray wrote: >Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: >> >1. The process "is intended as a last resort" - what steps would >> > you take before

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-13 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 10:17:00AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > > 2. Do you believe it would be fair to cite someone's non-technical > > >socio-religious views in the reasoning for or against expulsion?

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
Mac Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Garrett, to support your claim, will you make public any > objection(s) you posted to that August 2005 thread, as an example, > or state that you posted none? No need - Mark Ray did so earlier in the week. > Well, I'm fairly sure that's not his belief

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-12 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00968.html > > For those who can't read -private, Andrew's claims are untrue - > objections are voiced due to the manner in which Andrew voiced his > beliefs, not the beliefs in and of themselves. The bel

Who would you expel from Debian? (Was: Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process)

2006-03-11 Thread Ted Walther
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:44:28AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Murdock Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you want to debate grand ideas: What role should socio-religious views play in the Debian project? Would using differences in beliefs about death as a motive to call for expulsion (as thre

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-11 Thread Matthew Garrett
Murdock Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want to debate grand ideas: What role should > socio-religious views play in the Debian project? > Would using differences in beliefs about death > as a motive to call for expulsion (as threatened in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-11 Thread MJ Ray
Benjamin Seidenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Say (said, saying, says): > 2. To express in words: Say what's on your mind. > 3. a. To state as one's opinion or judgment; declare: I say let's eat out. > b. To state as a determination of fact: It's hard to say who is > right in this matter..

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
MJ Ray wrote: Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You said: ITYM wrote. Say (said, saying, says): 2. To express in words: Say what's on your mind. 3. a. To state as one's opinion or judgment; declare: I say let's eat out. b. To state as a determination of fact: It's hard to say w

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You said: ITYM wrote. Any voices you heard reading debian-vote to you today were not mine. If you can't distinguish between me and the voices you hear reading debian-vote to you, please ask your doctor. > >> > 2. Do you believe it would be fair to cite someon

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
Morio Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Do you believe that anyone in Debian has ever been discriminated against >> for socio-religious views that had no impact on their ability to work in >> the project? > > Given the number of people in Debian, it seems pr

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread MJ Ray
Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > pe, 2006-03-10 kello 02:52 +, MJ Ray kirjoitti: > > Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Do you believe that anyone in Debian has ever been discriminated against > > > for socio-religious views that had no impact on their ability to work in > > > the

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread MJ Ray
Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > >1. The process "is intended as a last resort" - what steps would > > you take before initiating or supporting it yourself? > > I would need to convince myself of two things: > * that the project as a

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2006-03-10 kello 02:52 +, MJ Ray kirjoitti: > Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Do you believe that anyone in Debian has ever been discriminated against > > for socio-religious views that had no impact on their ability to work in > > the project? > > Given the number of people in D

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Do you believe that anyone in Debian has ever been discriminated against > for socio-religious views that had no impact on their ability to work in > the project? Given the number of people in Debian, it seems probable that one will have experienced religiou

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: >The process to expel a developer is described in >http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html >I am not sure whether all expulsion attempts get far enough >to be recorded on -private or -project as described in >the pr

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread Matthew Garrett
Majid Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: >> > 2. Do you believe it would be fair to cite someone's non-technical >> >socio-religious views in the reasoning for or against expulsion? >> >> I sure hope yo

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread MJ Ray
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > 2. Do you believe it would be fair to cite someone's non-technical > >socio-religious views in the reasoning for or against expulsion? > > I sure hope you are not seriously asking that. Sadly, eve

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread MJ Ray
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > 1. The process "is intended as a last resort" - what steps would > >you take before initiating or supporting it yourself? > > [...] As such, I would also want to ensure that there has been e

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-08 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > The process to expel a developer is described in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html > I am not sure whether all expulsion attempts get far enough > to be recorded on -private or -project as described in > t

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-07 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > The process to expel a developer is described in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html > I am not sure whether all expulsion attempts get far enough > to be recorded on -private or -project as described in > t

Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-07 Thread MJ Ray
The process to expel a developer is described in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html I am not sure whether all expulsion attempts get far enough to be recorded on -private or -project as described in the process, but DDs can check for traffic on those lists involving