Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-04-01 Thread Philipp Kern
On 31.03.21 00:28, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: > > This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with > our constitution, section 4.1.5. > > The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation > are, and should be, held to the highes

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Tue 30 Mar 2021 at 11:28PM +01, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: > > This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with > our constitution, section 4.1.5. > > The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation > are, and should

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Kurt Roeckx
This option is now also on the website. Kurt

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/31/21 1:20 AM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 08:13:59PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: We urge Richard Stallman and the remaining members of the board which reinstated him, to consider their positions. Can you elaborate on th

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with our constitution, section 4.1.5. The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation are, and should be, held to the highest standards

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with our constitution, section 4.1.5. The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation are, and should be, held to the highest standards

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Milan Kupcevic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 3/30/21 6:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: [...] > > CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: > > This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with > our constitution, section 4.1.5. > > The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any pr

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Gard Spreemann
Jonathan Wiltshire writes: > CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: > > This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with > our constitution, section 4.1.5. > > The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation > are, and should be, held to the highest standards of ac

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Micha Lenk
Hi all, On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:47PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to > support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel > strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk ove

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:47PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: > > This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with > our constitution, section 4.1.5. > > The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation > are, and should

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Paride Legovini
Jonathan Wiltshire wrote on 31/03/2021: This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk overtaking this GR; Debian already has enoug

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-30 Thread Zlatan Todoric
On 3/31/21 00:28, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk overtaking this GR; Debian already has

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jonathan Wiltshire (2021-03-31 00:28:47) > This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to > support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel > strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk overtaking > this GR; Debian al

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 08:13:59PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > > We urge Richard Stallman and the remaining members of the board which > > reinstated him, to consider their positions. > Can you elaborate on the intended meaning here? Is "position"

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-30 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: We urge Richard Stallman and the remaining members of the board which reinstated him, to consider their positions. Can you elaborate on the intended meaning here? Is "position" their position to reinstate RMS, or their position as a member of the boa

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-30 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le mardi 30 mars 2021 à 23:28:47+0100, Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit : > This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to > support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel > strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk overtaking >

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-30 Thread Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:47PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to > support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel > strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk overtaking >

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-30 Thread Nicolas Dandrimont
Le Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:47PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit : > CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: > > This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with > our constitution, section 4.1.5. > > The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation > are, and sho

Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-30 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk overtaking this GR; Debian already has enough criticism for being slow to respond, and