Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-22 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
> Here is the text: > > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcome = > of > the vote. > > Regarding the sub

Re: [Call for seconds] The ???no GR, please??? amendement.

2014-10-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 21. Oktober 2014, Sam Hartman wrote: > my response is "so what? People are doing their jobs, let's not get in > their way." > I'd rather this amendment not push people away simply because they > disagree over whether all the questions have been answered. I agree. I've also been

Re: [Call for seconds] The ???no GR, please??? amendement.

2014-10-21 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Charles" == Charles Plessy writes: Charles> Thanks Anthony and Lucas for your suggestions. Even if it Charles> can be improved, I am reluctant to change the wording of Charles> the amendement, given that the whole point is a) to say Charles> that a GR is unwelcome, and b)

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-21 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:29:21PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcom

Re: [Call for seconds] The ???no GR, please??? amendement.

2014-10-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Thanks Anthony and Lucas for your suggestions. Even if it can be improved, I am reluctant to change the wording of the amendement, given that the whole point is a) to say that a GR is unwelcome, and b) to reduce as much as possible the “attack surface” on the voted text in case some people want to

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-21 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 20/10/14 at 08:06 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 05:01:02PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > > > > > > --- > > > > > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing > > > Ge

Re: [Call for seconds] The ???no GR, please??? amendement.

2014-10-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 08:06:28AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 05:01:02PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a ??crit : > > I think that it would be very helpful to describe how "the question has > > already been resolved". My understanding is that the various proposals > > add policy

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Joey" == Joey Hess writes: Joey> Charles Plessy wrote: >> --- >> >> The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when >> proposing General Resolutions, as the GR process may be >> dis

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:29:21PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Anyway, whichever the name I call for seconds (or comments: if this proposed > amendment is considered harmful, let me know). > Received (well, found in the middle of a mail thread, thanks for changing the subject though :P) and va

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Joey Hess
Charles Plessy wrote: > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcome of > the vote. > > Regarding the subjec

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:29:21PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Here is the text: > > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive r

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Charles Plessy (2014-10-19): > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcome of > the vote. > > Regarding th

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
Charles Plessy writes: > Here is the text: > > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcome of > the vote. >

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:29:21PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcom

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 19 Oct 2014, Charles Plessy wrote: > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcome of > the vote. > >

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 19 octobre 2014, 23.29:21 Charles Plessy a écrit : > -- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing > General Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless > of the outcome o

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 19. Oktober 2014, Charles Plessy wrote: > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing > General Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the > outcome of

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 05:01:02PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > > > > --- > > > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardle

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-19 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Charles Plessy: > --- > > The Debian project asks its members to be considerate when proposing General > Resolutions, as the GR process may be disruptive regardless of the outcome of > the vote. > > Regarding the subject

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Charles, On 19/10/14 at 23:29 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 05:31:28PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs a écrit : > > > > Charles Plessy: > > > This is why I am proposing this amendement, to say: “this GR was a bad > > > idea, > > > please do not do it again”. > > > > > I wou

[Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 05:31:28PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs a écrit : > > Charles Plessy: > > This is why I am proposing this amendement, to say: “this GR was a bad idea, > > please do not do it again”. > > > I would not regard it as an amendment, but as a separate alternative option > on the ball