Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-29 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Seconded. > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > >4.1. Powers > > Together, the Developers may: > 1. Appoint or recall the Project Leader. > 2. Amend this constitution, provided they agree with a 3:1 majority. > 3. Override any decision by the Projec

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-29 Thread Joe Nahmias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I hearby second this proposal. Joe Nahmias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manoj Srivastava wrote: - -- Start of PGP signed section. > Hi folks, > > Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating > Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-29 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Seconded. > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > >4.1. Powers > > Together, the Developers may: > 1. Appoint or recall the Project Leader. > 2. Amend this constitution, provided they agree with a 3:1 majority. > 3. Override any decision by the Projec

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-29 Thread Joe Nahmias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I hearby second this proposal. Joe Nahmias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manoj Srivastava wrote: - -- Start of PGP signed section. > Hi folks, > > Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating > Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors

[OFFTOPIC] [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:22:03PM -0400, Neil Roeth wrote: > Why is my mail to this list encountering huge delays? You weren't alone: http://murphy.debian.org/mrtg/murphy.queue-in.html -- G. Branden Robinson|Beware of and eschew pompous Debian GNU/Linux

[OFFTOPIC] [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 11:22:03PM -0400, Neil Roeth wrote: > Why is my mail to this list encountering huge delays? You weren't alone: http://murphy.debian.org/mrtg/murphy.queue-in.html -- G. Branden Robinson|Beware of and eschew pompous Debian GNU/Linux

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-27 Thread Neil Roeth
On Sep 24, Neil Roeth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Manoj, > > Are you going to post another version of the proposal reflecting what seems > to > be the consensus, i.e., allowing supersession, but not modification? Why is my mail to this list encountering huge delays? I sent an email on Mon

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-27 Thread Neil Roeth
On Sep 24, Neil Roeth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Manoj, > > Are you going to post another version of the proposal reflecting what seems to > be the consensus, i.e., allowing supersession, but not modification? Why is my mail to this list encountering huge delays? I sent an email on Monday,

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-26 Thread Neil Roeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manoj, Are you going to post another version of the proposal reflecting what seems to be the consensus, i.e., allowing supersession, but not modification? - -- Neil Roeth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Proce

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-26 Thread Neil Roeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manoj, Are you going to post another version of the proposal reflecting what seems to be the consensus, i.e., allowing supersession, but not modification? - -- Neil Roeth -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Proce

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-24 Thread Neil Roeth
I'd be happy to second an amended proposal reflecting what seems to be the consensus, i.e., allowing supersession, but not modification. Are you going to post another version of the proposal reflecting that?

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-24 Thread Neil Roeth
I'd be happy to second an amended proposal reflecting what seems to be the consensus, i.e., allowing supersession, but not modification. Are you going to post another version of the proposal reflecting that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:43:49PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 04:59, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating > > Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of > > this changed

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 07:43:49PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 04:59, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating > > Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of > > this changed

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 04:59, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi folks, > > Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating > Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of > this changed wording? (New sponsors are also welcome for second this > modified propos

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, it was. I did include the supercession language later on > in the document, but forgot it at the top of clause 5. This version also looks fine modulo one spelling nit: forms of "supersede" are traditionally spelled with Ss, not Cs. --

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 01:44:37AM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 12:04:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Do people think that we should only supercede foundation > > documents, and never modify them? I would not be averse to preserving > > a historical record. >

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 04:59, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi folks, > > Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating > Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of > this changed wording? (New sponsors are also welcome for second this > modified propos

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, it was. I did include the supercession language later on > in the document, but forgot it at the top of clause 5. This version also looks fine modulo one spelling nit: forms of "supersede" are traditionally spelled with Ss, not Cs. --

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 01:44:37AM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 12:04:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Do people think that we should only supercede foundation > > documents, and never modify them? I would not be averse to preserving > > a historical record. >

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Simon Law
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 12:04:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Do people think that we should only supercede foundation > documents, and never modify them? I would not be averse to preserving > a historical record. I think we should never modify them. It should be possible

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:52:13 -0400, Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 10:59:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating >> Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of >> this changed

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-21 Thread Steve Langasek
Seconded. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 10:59:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi folks, > > Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating > Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of > this changed wording?

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of this changed wording? (New sponsors are also welcome for second this modified proposal). manoj ==

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, Here is the Current proposal that has receive sponsors: == 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election 4.1. Powers Together, the Developers may: 1. Appoint or recall the Project Lea

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-21 Thread Simon Law
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 12:04:28AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Do people think that we should only supercede foundation > documents, and never modify them? I would not be averse to preserving > a historical record. I think we should never modify them. It should be possible

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 00:52:13 -0400, Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 10:59:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating >> Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of >> this changed

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-21 Thread Steve Langasek
Seconded. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 10:59:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi folks, > > Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating > Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of > this changed wording?

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, Here is my amended proposal, further changed by incorporating Branden's suggestions. Would the sponsors of my proposal approve of this changed wording? (New sponsors are also welcome for second this modified proposal). manoj ==

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, Here is the Current proposal that has receive sponsors: == 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election 4.1. Powers Together, the Developers may: 1. Appoint or recall the Project Lea

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-20 Thread Simon Law
Manoj, I would like to add my approval to these editorial comments. The idea of superseding previous documents sits far better with me than the idea of modification. The preservation of a historical record of our decisions is one of the ways we make our intentions clear to the world. Pl

Re: [AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-20 Thread Simon Law
Manoj, I would like to add my approval to these editorial comments. The idea of superseding previous documents sits far better with me than the idea of modification. The preservation of a historical record of our decisions is one of the ways we make our intentions clear to the world. Pl

[AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-19 Thread Branden Robinson
I have some editorial amendments to propose. Unlike amendment BR1, these do *not* run counter to the proposer's intentions as I understand them. > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > >4.1. Powers > > Together, the Developers may: > 1. Appoint or recall the

[AMENDMENT BR2] GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-09-19 Thread Branden Robinson
I have some editorial amendments to propose. Unlike amendment BR1, these do *not* run counter to the proposer's intentions as I understand them. > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > >4.1. Powers > > Together, the Developers may: > 1. Appoint or recall the