Re: Proposed GR: Repeal the 2005 vote for declassification of the debian-private mailing list

2016-09-18 Thread Nick Phillips
t; Were it not for the fact that your axiom is fatally flawed, I would like your idea :) Cheers, Nick -- Nick Phillips / nick.phill...@otago.ac.nz / 03 479 4195 # These statements are mine, not those of the University of Otago

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-10 Thread Nick Phillips
t the time it was introduced, and I'm not in favour of it now either. Cheers, Nick -- Nick Phillips / nick.phill...@otago.ac.nz / 03 479 4195 # These statements are mine, not those of the University of Otago

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-09 Thread Nick Phillips
another reason (beside general agreement) why people keep quiet on these lists. Cheers, Nick -- Nick Phillips / nick.phill...@otago.ac.nz / 03 479 4195 # These statements are mine, not those of the University of Otago

Re: Amendment to Proposed GR: Declassifying parts of -private of historical interest

2016-08-08 Thread Nick Phillips
approval of the author. A mere lack of objection is not enough - however it does seem to me that this is a road that some are keen to travel down. Cheers, Nick -- Nick Phillips / nick.phill...@otago.ac.nz / 03 479 4195 # These statements are mine, not those of the University of Otago

Re: The Sourceless software in the kernel source GR

2006-09-20 Thread Nick Phillips
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I suppose we could have a lengthy email > exchange, and assume that the sponsors are still paying attention to > every mail in the deluge that is -vote; On which subject, does anyone else think that it would be useful to leave debian-vote for formal proposals/seconds (

Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

2006-08-27 Thread Nick Phillips
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Indeed, all the references I have found tell me that firmware > is computer programs. > Interesting, as I note that *none* of those you quoted do so -- although some do say that it is "software" that is stored in less-volatile storage than RAM. Given the sca

Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

2006-08-23 Thread Nick Phillips
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Langasek wrote: > So, without further ado: > > The application of DFSG#2 to firmware and other data > > > The Debian Project recognizes that access to source code for a work > of software is

Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project

2006-07-23 Thread Nick Phillips
On 24/07/2006, at 8:41 AM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: A GR should wait - within reasonable time - until developers can have the information they need for a informed decision. The constitution specifies the time that the GR needs to be in discussion, and the period determined is a minimu

Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project

2006-07-21 Thread Nick Phillips
MJ Ray wrote: > > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> propose the following amendment to the Debian constitution. This had > >> been discussed at length last month, and suggestions and discussion > >> have died down. I would like to seek seconds for this proposal at > >> this time. > > I

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-11 Thread Nick Phillips
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 06:19:28AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 03:21:57PM +1300, Nick Phillips wrote: > > The vote is not a means of rescinding the DFSG or SC, nor even of > > contradicting them. It is the *only* means we have of determining > > wh

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-11 Thread Nick Phillips
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:37:57PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > The vote is not a means of rescinding the DFSG or SC, nor even of > > contradicting them. It is the *only* means we have of determining > > whether something is in compliance with them. If a majority say that > > that is the

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-11 Thread Nick Phillips
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:37:57PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You are of course assuming that there is some way of making an absolute > > determination as to the DFSG-compliance of a license, when there is not. >

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-09 Thread Nick Phillips
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 05:18:31PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Everyone has the job of interpreting the DFSG. I'm saying that if, in > the opinion of the Secretary, an interpretation of the DFSG is > tantamount to a reversal of part of it, then it requires a 3:1 > majority to pass. > If

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-08 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 11:50:51AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On 2/8/06, Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The GR as amended might appear to contradict the Social Contract, or the > > DFSG, but it certainly *does not* modify them, and hence cannot be said to > &

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-08 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:47:36PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 09:21:36PM +1300, Nick Phillips wrote: > > What it says, for those who can't (or can't be bothered) to read it is > > essentially this: > > > > We will include GFDL&#x

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-08 Thread Nick Phillips
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 09:11:11PM -0500, Christopher Martin wrote: > The important question here is one of legitimacy. Who exactly has the > authority to determine these matters of interpretation? Specifically, who > decides what is in accordance with the DFSG? The developers do, through > GRs

Re: Vote Robinson for DPL!

2005-02-25 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 03:08:52PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > It would help if SPI announced its board meeting dates more widely. Good point; it would probably be a good idea to announce them on d-d-a. Cheers, Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Nick Phillips
sts might happen. I also don't believe that it's acceptable to break the Monotonicity Criterion. If a winning option would be discarded due to quorum requirements, then I think the vote should probably be considered void. Sorry I don't have time to make much more of a contribution th