Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:39:46PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > I'm not sure why you think so, but I do acknowledge that this > is a hard thing to implement. Not wishing to oversimplify, this kind of strategy carries a high risk of conditioning the horse to walk *only* if there's a carr

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 03:00:29PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > I do not think it's part of the DPL responsibilities. I do > think that it's something that Debian needs and that doing it > with the DPL hat on is going to make it easier, it's not a > requirement (most stuff that DPL candida

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:24:14AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > One important example is fixing bugs. Developers spend quite a > lot of time fixing bugs, and most of the time you don't need to > be a DD to fix those bugs, anybody can help out fixing more > bugs. > > Another example is the

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, reading some of the replies MJ[0]'s post has received, I feel it's necessary to express my opinion on some of the points. I wasn't going to at first in order to keep the noise down, but IMO some views and opinions expressed by DPL candidates have turned noise into signal. On Fri, Mar 04,

Re: Exclusion, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:48:50AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Is that 65% for the d-i in the next release, or d-i current? That > still leaves a third excluded and d-i is *much* better than most, far > more widely translated more than most of debian. There's a lot of > other things to improve too.

Re: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:10:45PM -0500, Erinn Clark wrote: > None of the individuals [...] Can we _please_ stop refering to people by their nicknames, IRC handles or whatever it is that you are using? It's bad enough to try and remember a couple hundred names, don't make it worse by adding

Re: Second Call for votes: General resolution: Sarge Release Schedule in view of GR 2004-003

2004-07-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 06:15:01PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > >> [ ] Choice 7: Further discussion > > That's wrong, voting for 7 means the voter dislikes all options, and > wants either some other resolution, or no resolution. "Further discussion". That option means you want

Re: GRs, irrelevant amendments, and insincere voting

2003-11-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
> I beg to differ. After catching up on the list I see that a couple > of people claim to have ranked option C below further discussion. > > Option C was proposed as "AMENDMENT BR3" to this mailing list[1]. > > There *was* no discussion of it, really. It collected its seconds, > and ther

Re: GRs, irrelevant amendments, and insincere voting

2003-11-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
> I beg to differ. After catching up on the list I see that a couple > of people claim to have ranked option C below further discussion. > > Option C was proposed as "AMENDMENT BR3" to this mailing list[1]. > > There *was* no discussion of it, really. It collected its seconds, > and ther

Re: GRs, irrelevant amendments, and insincere voting

2003-11-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 01:58:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 05:17:55PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Consider the "amendment" (in name only), > >Replace lines ^ through $ with the words, "Debian should continue to > >produce a distribution." > > Huh? D

Re: GRs, irrelevant amendments, and insincere voting

2003-11-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 01:58:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 05:17:55PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Consider the "amendment" (in name only), > >Replace lines ^ through $ with the words, "Debian should continue to > >produce a distribution." > > Huh? D

Re: A question for all candidates

2003-03-08 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:02:09PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > Also, it would show me that the project actually thinks that the > tasks I listed in my platform are important, and that the project > stands behind what I'm doing. I must have missed the memo. Since when does this project w

Re: A question for all candidates

2003-03-08 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:02:09PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > Also, it would show me that the project actually thinks that the > tasks I listed in my platform are important, and that the project > stands behind what I'm doing. I must have missed the memo. Since when does this project w

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, > > 4. The DAM is : > > > > [x] a critical part of our infrastructure > > [ ] guilty of not rejecting people when they deserve to be > > That's possible, but I'm not sure it should really be the DAMs job to > exercise a veto on an NM candidate that has otherwise passed the > proces

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:56:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I will add that, since the Release Manager is a delegate of the DPL, one > of the first things I'd be doing in office would be asking the RM, "so, > what's the lay of the land?" Why don't you ask right now? (I'm serious) I

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, > > 4. The DAM is : > > > > [x] a critical part of our infrastructure > > [ ] guilty of not rejecting people when they deserve to be > > That's possible, but I'm not sure it should really be the DAMs job to > exercise a veto on an NM candidate that has otherwise passed the > proces

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:56:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I will add that, since the Release Manager is a delegate of the DPL, one > of the first things I'd be doing in office would be asking the RM, "so, > what's the lay of the land?" Why don't you ask right now? (I'm serious) I

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This year we are using a new method of properly determining > concordcet ballots using the Cloneproof SSD method. The script that > calculates this is appended below. Thanks for the clarification Manoj. I see the script does work as d

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Thomas Bushnell, BSG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) Your candidate > 2) None of the above > 3 and 4) The other two This is actually incorrect. That means you prefer one of the the other two over the other, which might seem irrelevant, but under this voting system makes a difference.

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This year we are using a new method of properly determining > concordcet ballots using the Cloneproof SSD method. The script that > calculates this is appended below. Thanks for the clarification Manoj. I see the script does work as

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Thomas Bushnell, BSG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) Your candidate > 2) None of the above > 3 and 4) The other two This is actually incorrect. That means you prefer one of the the other two over the other, which might seem irrelevant, but under this voting system makes a difference

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If you want to select one person, and leave the rest equally, you > > could put a "1" for the person (or thing) you like, and mark the > > rest as "2". > [...] > unacceptable blank. Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't > repeat

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If you want to select one person, and leave the rest equally, you > > could put a "1" for the person (or thing) you like, and mark the > > rest as "2". > [...] > unacceptable blank. Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't > repea

Re: Sourceforge Site for Debian

2002-03-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's so long ago that I didn't remember about that. :-) In fact, I'm not > sure that SF is useful as a general todo list ... it provides such > features (various trackers) for each individual project however. Well, yes. SF (as a project hostin

Re: Sourceforge Site for Debian

2002-03-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's so long ago that I didn't remember about that. :-) In fact, I'm not > sure that SF is useful as a general todo list ... it provides such > features (various trackers) for each individual project however. Well, yes. SF (as a project hosti

Re: Sourceforge Site for Debian

2002-03-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The explanation is that "Sourceforge for Debian" was of very little > interest for me several months ago, it's only once you suggested me > the idea (it's due to you this item in my project), that I considered > it and thought about the advantag

Re: Sourceforge Site for Debian

2002-03-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The explanation is that "Sourceforge for Debian" was of very little > interest for me several months ago, it's only once you suggested me > the idea (it's due to you this item in my project), that I considered > it and thought about the advanta

Questions for the candidates

2002-03-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi everyone, A couple of questions for the candidates: 1. The project's main goal is to produce a 100% free operating system, and in my opinion we are doing quite well in that respect. But the question of *how* this goal is achieved is seldom posed. In particular, I have the feeli

Questions for the candidates

2002-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi everyone, A couple of questions for the candidates: 1. The project's main goal is to produce a 100% free operating system, and in my opinion we are doing quite well in that respect. But the question of *how* this goal is achieved is seldom posed. In particular, I have the feel

Re: Questions to Candidates

2002-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When CosmicRay CosmicRay? -- M.

Re: Questions to Candidates

2002-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When CosmicRay CosmicRay? -- M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSED] Michael Bramer must stop spamming or be expelled

2001-10-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I propose that Michael Bramer be ordered to stop sending automated mails > to other developers (regarding the DDTS or any other subject). > > If he does not comply within 24 hours of ratification of this proposal, > he will be expelled from t

Re: [PROPOSED] Michael Bramer must stop spamming or be expelled

2001-10-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I propose that Michael Bramer be ordered to stop sending automated mails > to other developers (regarding the DDTS or any other subject). > > If he does not comply within 24 hours of ratification of this proposal, > he will be expelled from

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote > > "no, no matter what" do not leave an option black but rank "None Of > > The Above" higher than the unacceptable choices. > > So what exactly is "open for interpretation

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote > > "no, no matter what" do not leave an option black but rank "None Of > > The Above" higher than the unacceptable choices. > > So what exactly is "open for interpretatio

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as nothing, since I > > made no preference of one over the other. So not specifying a rank in > > the order pretty much alleviates that choice in the tally for that > > particular vote. >

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as nothing, since I > > made no preference of one over the other. So not specifying a rank in > > the order pretty much alleviates that choice in the tally for that > > particular vote. >

Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's how people voted: Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) confirm that the numbers are right? I can get those numbers only if I make an assumption which a) I think is wrong b) throws some people's votes out of the

Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's how people voted: Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) confirm that the numbers are right? I can get those numbers only if I make an assumption which a) I think is wrong b) throws some people's votes out of th

Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates

2001-03-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wouldn't want an elected DPL to blindly do X, because that is what > he/she promised before the election, when new evidence comes to light > that indicates that X is bad (eg. perhaps some new solution Y is > suggested that removes the need for X).

Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates

2001-03-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wouldn't want an elected DPL to blindly do X, because that is what > he/she promised before the election, when new evidence comes to light > that indicates that X is bad (eg. perhaps some new solution Y is > suggested that removes the need for X).

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to see a list containing that information. If elected DPL, I > would attempt to ensure that we have one. "If elected DPL". That's... enlightening. -- Marcelo

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to see a list containing that information. If elected DPL, I > would attempt to ensure that we have one. "If elected DPL". That's... enlightening. -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsu

Re: Leader Election 2000

2000-02-25 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Anthony Towns writes: > Aiee. I have no idea who to vote for. [LMGOL!] > So if any of the candidates feel like answering just one more > question, here you go: > > - Why would you be a better DPL than Wichert? > > Flame! Be confrontational! Make a statement! Last year

Re: Platform for DPL...

2000-01-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Ben, >> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I'de like to see in Debian is more of a hierarchy for strong > decision making, and give every developer a chance to be > involved. Do not confuse this with more "politics" or placing > developers above their peers. This has to do with