On 2025/05/12 18:23, Ian Jackson wrote:
I notice that after the first automated REJECT, we have now got an
automated ACCEPT from dak for this upload. Thanks to the FTP Team for
fixing the root cause of this issue.
Sean and I will need to do some more tests to confirm everything is
working prope
Hi Gianfranco
On 2025/04/06 09:10, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote:
Also,https://wiki.debian.org/Debuginfod sounds nice, but the service is
run outside Debian (on a .debian.net domain). Was it discussed making it
part of Debian? As the DPL, what do you pushes people to maintain such
services outside
Hi Ian
On 2025/04/04 11:08, Ian Jackson wrote:
Hi everyone.
tl;dr
We need to make an exceptional, short term delegation authorising
the installation of tag2upload's signing key on ftp-master.
We need two volunteers to take on this responsibility; please
volunteer in respon
Dear all
We're entering the last week of DPL campaigning, please keep off-topic
discussions off of this list. Besides wasting a lot of time, the
off-topic conversations are really boring and tedious, especially when
they just re-hash views that have already been soap-boxed on other lists.
Dear DPL candidates
(As always, answer as little or much as you want)
How do you feel about organisations such as the Open Source Initiative,
Free Software Foundation and the Linux Foundation?
We have two candidates who have mentioned their intent to collaborate
more closely with Ubuntu, but
Dear candidates!
Firstly, thanks for stepping up for running for DPL.
Unfortunately, outside of maintaining my own packages I've had little
Debian time for the last few months, so I'm not as up to date with all
the Debian problems as I'd like to be.
But, lucky for you, there's enough difficu
Hi Ian
On 2024/06/17 12:56, Ian Jackson wrote:
* We made fairly formal appeals to two sitting DPLs. What we got
was, basically, attempts at mediation, or facilitation of
discussions. We didn't see that as helpful, since we saw an
irreconcilable gap between our position and ftpmas
Hi Sean
On 2024/06/15 02:14, Sean Whitton wrote:
My point is that it's not doing any magic. It's less than 500 lines of shell.
Where do I find this? I searched for tag2upload on salsa and did an
'apt-cache search tag2upload', but couldn't find anything.
thanks,
-Jonathan
Hi Luca
On 2024/06/12 10:21, Luca Boccassi wrote:
Having a separate namespace with strong ACLs seems exactly what you
want, even if it duplicates the individual repositories (the backend
git store deduplicates it anyway, so in practice it should be quite
cheap). Having an entire separate git for
On 2024/04/10 16:08, Felix Lechner wrote:
On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 13:57:55 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
every single hardware request over the last 4 years (whether from DSA
or from a DD) has been approved.
Mine wasn't, although I probably didn't follow the proper procedure. I
ju
Hi!
On 2024/03/27 12:25, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
Would you be ok spending 100k USD on buying hardware for a new Debian
cloud, for example? I've always volunteered to operate it for Debian,
but it never went through, because I haven't spent time to find where
to host it and so on, but highvol
Hi Sruthi
On 2024/03/22 19:51, Sruthi Chandran wrote:
I agree on your point of lack of transparency about the finances. But
from what I understood from highvoltage's platform last year, the
problem is more to do with the current delayed, manual and tedious
accounting process.
The accounting p
On 2024/03/23 18:48, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
Maybe is it time to Debian has its own outreachy program?
To have DDs mentoring paid interns to learn how to package, how to
contribute for softwares/tools used by Debian, and so on.
In the last Debian Outreach Delegation, this is one
On 2023/11/22 01:37, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
I would also like to point out that, in the current state, on Saturday
the discussion period is over and a vote is automatically called.
Not so sure how automatic that was meant to be, but for what it's worth,
I didn't see enough interest in extending th
On 2023/11/26 21:24, Bill Allombert wrote:
We should not just put out a statement just because others have done so, because
we might inadvertently propagate FUD.
Yep, it's a minefield. Anything we say can be used by a manipulative
politician to make it seem that we support their cause.
-Jona
Hi Bill
On 2023/11/24 19:14, Bill Allombert wrote:
I offer the following ballot option for your consideration.
- GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS -
The Debian developers delegate to the Debian Project Leader the task of issuing
a Public Statement about the 'EU Cyber Resilience Act and th
Hi Kurt
On 2023/11/22 01:37, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
While Debian has stakes in the CRA, and should issue a statement if
only to show we exists, I am quite sure that a GR is not necessary for Debian
to issue such statement, and I am quite unconvinced the GR process is the best
option for the purpose
Hi Paulo
On 2023/03/15 16:29, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
I believe this year is a special because it's 30 years of Debian.
So we need a speciall call for celebration 😄
I agree, last year I was swamped around Debian's birthday nearly even
missed it altogether. I was thinking then t
On 2023/03/15 19:00, Thomas Koch wrote:
Half a year later, would you mind sharing a comment on my exclusion?
I'm glad that DAM didn't take too long to take action.
Would you be open to have a (public?) call with me and maybe also people
from the project (e.g. community team)?
There have been
Hey everyone
I suppose some people might be wondering if I'm writing a platform for
this election- and the answer is YES!
I meant to have it ready by the end of the weekend, but got hit by some
tummy bug that's been going around and just couldn't concentrate on the
platform much. I'll work o
Hi Kurt
On 2023/03/03 21:39, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx wrote:
| Period | Start | End |
|+-+---|
| Nomination | Saturday 2023-03-04 | Friday 2023-03-10 |
I gave it consideration, and will run again this
Hi Everyone
On 2022/09/07 18:26, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:
As per the Debian Constitution[1] (4.2¶3), I'm requesting an extension
for the discussion period of 7 days.
Thank you all for taking the time to polish or add voting options over
the last week. I believe that the op
On 2022/09/09 18:37, Bdale Garbee wrote:
"Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)" writes:
I do think some parts are important to include though, how about:
I disagree strongly on this.
We should work REALLY hard to have the SC capture the commitments we're
making to our users
On 2022/09/09 18:04, Russ Allbery wrote:
We encourage careful review of the licensing of these packages before
use or redistribution, since the guarantees of the Debian Free
Software Guidelines do not apply to them.
Looks good to me. It summarizes the gist of the issue very conci
On 2022/09/08 11:27, Phil Morrell wrote:
5. Works that do not meet our free software standards
We acknowledge that our users may require the use of works that do
not conform to the Debian Free Software Guidelines. Such packages
are not part of the Debian system, but we provid
Dear Debian Secretary and Debian Developers
As per the Debian Constitution[1] (4.2¶3), I'm requesting an extension
for the discussion period of 7 days.
Apologies for jumping this on the last minute, I've been off-sick and
have been fiercely triaging and catching up with issues the last day or
On 2022/08/22 19:32, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
=
We will include non-free firmware packages from the
"non-free-firmware" section of the Debian archive on our official
media (installer images and live images). The included firmware
binaries will*normally* be enabled by d
Hi Louis-Philippe
On 2022/06/19 01:43, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
This is a proposal for Debian to create a guideline for our TOs when
they receive donations of non-fiat assets.
It is a result of the constructive debate we had on debian-private, and
hopefully it will not be too divisive :)
Hi Jonathan
On 2022/04/08 11:44, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Debconf is not formally a part of Debian,
and so cannot be bound by the outcome of a GR anyway.
Due to how DebConf started and how it evolved, and the pace that they
had to move on to get things done, they w
On 2022/04/01 20:28, Adrian Bunk wrote:
Would you commit to something more specific, like that our Data
Protection team will reply to debian-project within 3 months discussing
all issues mentioned in the discussion at [1] so far, and with their
reply having been proof-read by our GDPR lawyer?
Hi Adrian
(I'm including the data-protection team, perhaps they can expand on your
question or comment on my feedback)
On 2022/03/31 22:08, Adrian Bunk wrote:
The discussion starting in [1] is about privacy in Debian with a focus
on the GDPR of the European Union.
It started with the GDPR,
On 2022/03/30 07:33, Paul Wise wrote:
On Tue, 2022-03-29 at 20:47 -0700, Felix Lechner wrote:
It furthermore seems that I did not follow the proper process when
filing my request, as Paul Wise pointed out.
My reference to the Hardware/Wanted wiki page was referring to the
procedure for after y
Hi Richard
On 2022/03/24 22:17, Richard Laager wrote:
The disbursements that I've heard about seem to be relatively "small
potatoes" things. Is there some huge wasteful spending occurring that
I've missed?
Most of it is small potatoes (typically less than $1000, typically for
hardware or tra
Hi Paul
On 2022/03/26 01:27, Paul Wise wrote:
We have these documents related to that:
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL#Money
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/AskingForMoney
https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/SponsoringGuidelines
These were written by Stefano Zacchiroli in 2010 when he was DP
Hi Paul
On 2022/03/27 05:53, Paul Wise wrote:
Debian's relationship with the various distributions derived from
Debian and approach to existing and new derivatives has had a wide
range of states. Most derivatives recieve indifference from Debian.
When it comes to the indifference, I think for
Hi Lucas
On 2022/03/17 17:54, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
As someone who used to care a lot about Debian, but who hasn't been able
to pay much attention to the project lately, I was wondering:
I don't think anyone would hold it against you that you've got busy with
other stuff, having a life outsid
On 2022/03/25 11:41, Jonathan Carter wrote:
For example, I requested $217 for a one-time SSD & RAM upgrade to help
operate lintian.d.o in November of 2021. My request was not granted. I
didn't even receive a response from Jonathan (other than a request for
more information, with which I
Hi Felix
On 2022/03/25 02:18, Felix Lechner wrote:
For example, I requested $217 for a one-time SSD & RAM upgrade to help
operate lintian.d.o in November of 2021. My request was not granted. I
didn't even receive a response from Jonathan (other than a request for
more information, with which I c
Hi Sam
On 2022/03/23 06:04, Sam Hartman wrote:
This has gotten much much better.
* You can hold down space bar in orca focus mode, when you release, you
know you will be muted.
(push to talk key)
* The accessibility of the icons is much better.
The buttons are "pressed" when muted and th
Hi Devin
On 2022/03/20 19:09, Devin Prater wrote:
* Have you heard of the Debian Accessibility group?
I have indeed.
* If so, have you worked with them in the past, or are you currently
working with them?
I haven't directly worked with them directly, but I have been on the
receiving en
On 2022/03/18 20:08, Felix Lechner wrote:
Which would you be prepared to provide as DPL?
>
Whichever the members perceive as proper.
How would you gauge that, Felix? It's impractical to have a vote every
time a decision is to be made, which is why voters want to know how a
potential DPL wou
Hi Molly
On 2022/03/17 16:57, Molly dB wrote:
In November 2021, it was discussed in debian-private that a team from
Debian had been working with a lawyer for a while. (Not sharing
details: issues remain ongoing.) How would you transition into taking
on this particular responsibility and similar
Hi Charles
On 2022/03/16 14:28, Charles Plessy wrote:
thank you for running !
I have a question for you (and only you).
Yay, thanks for the question!
What do you think of the reform of the Technical Committee that
introduced a limit to the time people can serve in, and would you
consider ap
Hi Louis-Philippe
On 2022/03/16 20:12, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
I would like to know what is the stance of the 3 candidates on producing
monthly "Bits from the DPL" reports on their activities.
I like them very much and I think they are a great way to keep us all
informed of what the DPL
Hi Kurt
On 2022/03/05 01:15, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx wrote:
Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to)
debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed.
I'll be standing for another term.
-Jonathan
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On 2022/02/14 20:42, Felix Lechner wrote:
Based on the way people with minority opinions are treated, you would
have to expel a lot of people.
Which people with minority opinions were mistreated? We're a group with
a very, very large spectrum of opinions and so far it's only been in the
extre
On 2021/11/27 03:34, Russ Allbery wrote:
Here is a Salsa diff with the current version of the constitution:
https://salsa.debian.org/rra/webwml/-/compare/master...gr-2021-003?from_project_id=65952
Thank you! I've been meaning to do this for a while!
-Jonathan
On 2021/11/23 17:59, Steve McIntyre wrote:
would you be willing to let peb and I propose the secret ballots GR?
We were hoping we were in line behind Russ.
>
Sure, no worries.
Ah, I also had one, but can wait my turn. I considered starting a thread
in -project in the meantime, but I'm slight
On 2021/11/11 21:48, Bastian Blank wrote:
I'm really surprised that ftp master is more important than the weird
definition of DD and DM.
You left out "non-uploading DD" :)
-Jonathan
Hi Marc
On 2021/11/11 17:29, Marc Haber wrote:
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 05:37:55PM -0500, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
PS For people who are concerned that a retreat from the term "master" is
somehow the language police run dangerously amok, it's worth asking
why you feel so committed to t
Hi Joerg
On 2021/11/04 23:14, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
I would like to rename the FTP Masters team—ideally via a General
Resolution.
Ideally? Its the worst possible way to go about.
I'm at a loss to actually find polite words to describe how off it is,
That might be slightly harsh, Felix only b
On 2021/04/18 23:36, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Complaining about the
> voting system because you don't like the outcome or because you could
> announce the outcome in an awkward way is not helpful.
Who complained about the voting system because they didn't like the
outcome of this particular vote? I'
Hi Debian Developers
Over the course of the last few days, I've received many mails regarding
the RMS GR, both on this list, on debian-private and in private. These
mails contain a wide spectrum of concerns and even ideas on how to
improve our situation, each of which come with their own set of up
Hi Tina
On 2021/04/08 06:15, Martina Ferrari wrote:
> Ah, Adam, sending unsolicited private email? Fuck that, you were in the
> first line on my bingo card.
Personally, I would've ignored an unsolicited post like that and deleted
it. Not that I'm telling you that's what you should've done, but yo
On 2021/04/01 17:57, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 04:50:15PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>> The first option is one option, the others are different and less
>> strong. Having strong options in a GR doesn't turn the whole GR in a
>> blackmail
>
> I would disagree. Es
On 2021/04/04 05:47, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> I did actually read this as satire and was quite amused by it - I
> didn't think it could have been read as a serious request until the
> first response to it.
I would appreciate it if we could keep satire and comedy a bit dialed
back for a but. As much
Hi peb
On 2021/03/26 20:54, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> I wonder in that case if such a person sould be either:
>
> 1. Nominated by the DPL
> 2. Co-elected (ie voting for a couple of people)
> 3. Elected separately on the same time frame (but that could lead to
> issues if the DPL and vice-DPL
Hi Pasha
On 2021/03/26 20:29, Pasha wrote:
> I saw some people are sending github links to promote their cause.
>
> github is not a free software. It a proprietary service owned by a
> company.
>
> My question is depending on the side a developer choose he has the
> right not to use any propriet
Hi Sean
On 2021/03/25 22:17, Sean Whitton wrote:
> The point of this is not to call for the removal of the entire FSF
> board, as the open letter does, while still supporting the main thrust
> of the open letter, which is about Stallman himself.
>
> The vote to restore Stallman to the board was n
Hey Christian
On 2021/03/23 11:42, Christian Kastner wrote:
> However, looking at this from the other side of the argument, I still
> believe that relying on pure volunteer work has significant downsides to
> the quality of our distribution, downsides that IMO could or should
> easily be avoided b
Hi Sam
On 2021/03/25 17:58, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>>>>> "Bart" == Bart Martens writes:
>
> Bart> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 11:53:23PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> >> On this particular issue, I feel it's better that individual
On 2021/03/19 11:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> 1/ Why have you all given up on the idea to lead Debian?
This question still bothers me a bit. Firstly, I don't see my previous
term or my upcoming term that way. I believe that considering the
climate in recent years in Debian, and considering all the
Dear project secretary
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 13:54:16 -0700
Steve Langasek wrote:
> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
> body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
Due to the timeliness of this GR, please reduce the discussion period
for this GR to o
On 2021/03/24 23:19, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I suspect that the issues surrounding the open letter asking rms to step
> down and for the FSF board to resign are fairly well understood at this
> point.
> It's been an ongoing issue.
>
> I don't think we're going to get much benefit out of a prolonged
>
Sorry, for some reason I didn't get Gunnar's original mail so going to
reply here...
On 2021/03/24 02:24, M dB wrote:
>> https://opensource.org/OSI_Response
>> https://rms-open-letter.github.io/
>>
>> Now, as for my question: I thought repeatedly over the last couple of
>> days whether to
Hi Bart
On 2021/03/23 11:11, Bart Martens wrote:
> A question about diversity. We all know that some profiles are
> underrepresented: gender, etnic group, disability, age, sexual preference,
> education degree, rich/poor, spoken & written languages...
>
> 1/ One way of addressing this, is activel
Hi pollo
On 2021/03/19 20:05, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> In becoming a DD, one of the main challenges I faced was the absence of
> a standard way to package software in Debian.
>
> I've since seen first hand how having a very large number of ways to
> package things in Debian confuse and u
On 2021/03/19 21:01, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> The idea was discussed two years ago. Sam chose a range of people to
> help him with delegations.
It's come up a few times in past platforms and discussions on -vote too!
> Being a DPL is a high-energy thing even when one doesn't try to "lead"
>
Hi Raphaël
On 2021/03/19 11:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> when I look back at my old platforms[1][2]3] I can already see a trend
> where we move from "concrete changes that we want to see in Debian" to
> "some vague idea of how we want to run the project" but this trend seems
> to have continued an
On 2021/03/18 23:33, Philip Hands wrote:
> There were enough people keen on that happening that if we'd each had an
> earmarked e.g. 1k budget to allocate, we could have just agreed it
> amongst ourselves, and done it, without a lot of back and forth on the
> lists trying to establish whether there
On 2021/03/18 21:44, Philip Hands wrote:
> I've been pondering how it might be possible to spend more of Debian's
> money, and it occurred to me that we could allocate a budget to each DD
> which they could spend on pretty-much anything (as long as, for Debian
> funds, the expenditure is allowed un
Hi Raphaël
On 2021/03/18 19:46, Raphael Hertzog wrote:> I announced this on
debian-project[1] and on Planet Debian[2] a while ago.
> But at this point, we have only funded a single project[3], leaving us
> with more than 25 KEUR available for further projects.
>
> I did not expect this lack of in
Hi Kurt
On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 20:39:44 +0100
Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to)
> debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed.
I hereby self-nominate for the DPL 2021 term.
-Jonathan
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On 2020/05/22 20:08, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> (and besides, the India team has already won for next year). If
> they get
Correction: I mean of course, Kosovo.
- -Jonathan
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and
start to worry about the situation in India instead.
So again, I'd ask you to consider the above at least one more time
before posting that GR.
- -Jonathan
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agree that they
also have a responsibility to share this information with the DCC in the
case of DebConfs, or the DPL or Community Team when it comes to other
DebConf events. This would help provide some additional sanity checks
and also for posterity.
-Jonathan
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nt
in DC17 was made purely by the DC17 local team.
> In
> (<1501234967.2211370.1055405832.1d2d7...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
> message not available in public), by a previous DPL to the event
> planning team, including Jonathan Carter, the email noted that by
> actively not ans
ld be squarely the responsibility of the DPL, but the DPL should
certainly be there to help enable any initiatives and ideas that our
project members have.
-Jonathan
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should be too pushy on these issues, the
strategy should be removing pressure instead of adding more imho. If the
team has more time to address their problems internally then the day to
day problems will eventually get better too.
-Jonathan
[1] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
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would
> have no issue seeking a GR, and working to build consensus to make the
necessary
> changes.
Great! Yes I still stand with the idea that a GR should be used for
final votes, not as a polling tool, and the options should be clear
enough that people understand what they vote for and
for any answers :)
- -Jonathan
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On 2020/03/20 02:12, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jonathan Carter wrote:
>> Non-uploading DD's existed at the time, I just had no interest in
>> becoming a non-uploading DD when it was already my intent to become an
>> uploading DD.
>
> I don&
et
either. I was involved when the DPL and DebConf people talked about it,
they simply agreed that it's not an issue and that you don't have to be
a DD in order to be on the DebConf committee.
TBH I'm having trouble following your line of questioning and exactly
what you're
On 2020/03/19 14:00, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>>>>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Carter writes:
>
> Jonathan> On 2020/03/19 12:39, Paul Wise wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:54 AM Jonathan Carter wrote:
> >>
> >&g
On 2020/03/19 12:39, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:54 AM Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
>> My honest answer? Yes, it would be nice if all the delegates could be
>> project members, I understand your concern, but often it's best to be
>> willing to work with
rving some bandwidth for delegations
even when other exciting things are happening. Also actively checking in
on delegations that are known to need some support, like the DebConf
team in the period before Debconf starts and probably also scheduled
check-ins with delegations like the treasurers.
-Jonathan
ianites to ask questions
for the DPL elections on here. Both questions and answers could go
unnoticed and unread. I think it’s better to choose a future discussion
and plan it ahead, rather than test it in production mid-way of a DPL
election.
"""
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ions to the DPL
candidates on this list, rather than test Discourse for DPL Q&As midway
through a DPL election.
And I also forgot to mention, nice initiative I do think that it has
potential.
-Jonathan
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t they are at least familiar with those. It doesn't seem
reasonable for someone to represent Debian in an official capacity if
they don't even know what Debian is.
-Jonathan
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that didn't keep me from
> becoming interested in computers. Several female physicists I know probably
> played with dolls as well, yet they are what they are now.
I'm sure that you're smart enough to know that you're completely missing
the point there.
-Jonathan
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k you're setting an unrealistically high
expectation if you want people who have less than that to have to aim as
high as being like Linus.
-Jonathan
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Hey Enrico
On 2020/03/18 11:58, Enrico Zini wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:36:24AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
>> My honest answer? Yes, it would be nice if all the delegates could be
>> project members, I understand your concern, but often it's best to be
>>
le,
but I just can't make promises on this front as a prospective DPL, I
think it takes the whole project to make this happen and drive it
forward to make it a success and to get the best bang for our buck. In
the meantime I'm glad that Outreachy can help take care of some of the work.
-J
's not relevant to this election.
-Jonathan
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t and give them
every possible shot at making it work.
I could give you concrete examples of the rest of my platform too if
you'd like, although this mail is already long and I think I've shown
that the ideas listed there are more than just a bunch of nice words on
a platform.
-Jonatha
d to stress about it. This was how
I chose to self-nominate and it was my choice to make.
-Jonathan
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⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
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d productive environment, I think
in some ways we ended up in survival mode and we need to evolve past
that and allow the project to thrive.
I'm usually a lot more concise, but if you've made it this far, then a
sincere thank you for reading :)
-Jonathan
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uld have been sleeping myself.
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⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian Developer - https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage
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of those.
-Jonathan
[1] https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002
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⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian Developer - https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org
⠈⠳⣄ Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.
7;t know if I like it or not. Let's finish the work
> on getting the ballot right and then vote.
Absolutely, losing another day to get a proposal right is a very small
price to pay in the grand scheme of things, where rushing it creates the
risk of having to repeat it all again in the future.
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