At 2025-05-09T12:57:41+0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> A virus detection database is another prominent example where it is
> absolutely clear there is no way to get consent from the copyright
> holders of the original training data (the authors of millions of
> viruses).
On the bright side, works o
At 2025-05-08T09:52:25-0600, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I think our voting system deals well with ballot options, so I've
> never bought into the desire to minimize ballot options.
Yes--supposedly, our balloting method, "Cloneproof/SSD" has the (natch)
"cloneproof" property, meaning that a preferred opt
At 2025-05-08T23:06:12-0500, Richard Laager wrote:
> On 2025-05-07 07:05, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> > Another example is the practice to drop copyright years from
> > copyright notices. Some commercial players do this because they
> > save developer time, and believe that the likelyhood that a
> >
Hi Mo,
At 2025-05-08T13:05:08-0400, M. Zhou wrote:
> I decided to withdraw the proposal A: "AI models released under
> DFSG-compatible license without original training data or program" are
> not seen as DFSG-compliant.
>
> Based on the overall discussions and feedbacks, we as a community is
> un
At 2025-05-07T18:10:37+0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> My reading is that if it is possible for a skilled person to re-create
> an equivalent model following some description, under Aigars'
> proposal, it would be permissible to have gnipgnop-rattrap in Debian
> main, including the model trained on
Hi Russ,
At 2025-05-06T08:48:13-0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Andrey Rakhmatullin writes:
> > Simon Josefsson wrote:
>
> >> I don't think Debian is perfectly consistent in applying that
> >> principle: for example, the text of the Developer Certificate of
> >> Origin (DCO) is included in Debian p
[self-correction]
At 2025-05-04T08:29:24-0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> the principle of laches (an analogue to the statue of limitations for
> criminal procedure)
You can tell someone's not a lawyer when their fingers automatically
type "statue" instead of "statut
Hi Aigars,
At 2025-05-04T14:27:46+0200, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> The simple fact that none of the LLMs have been sued out of existence
> by *any *copyright owner is de facto proof that it does not work that
> way in the eyes of the judicial system.
I think that's a hasty conclusion. Civil proced
[CCing Ian on Debian Constitutional drafting question; moving to
-project; please direct any follow-ups there]
Hi Sean,
At 2025-04-09T09:44:31+0800, Sean Whitton wrote:
> On Tue 08 Apr 2025 at 01:09pm GMT, Holger Levsen wrote:
>
> > The Technical Committee may:
> >
> > Decide on any matter of te
Hi Pierre-Elliott,
At 2025-04-09T11:00:37+0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Bill Allombert wrote on 07/04/2025 at 10:02:01+0200:
> >> You and your behaviours effects are worse than those from many of
> >> the people we had to expell in the past.
> >
> > Joerg,
> >
> > Since you are (also) DAM,
Dear nominees,
Thank you for standing for the office of Debian Project Leader (DPL).
Prompted in part by many years of reflection on the project's strengths
and weaknesses, I have a slate of recommendations regarding the
management of delegates under section 8 of the Debian Constitution.[1]
One
wrote:
> Am Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 12:06:31PM -0500 schrieb G. Branden Robinson:
> > Thanks to Andreas, Gianfranco, and others for pointing out that my
> > questions to the candidates would be improved by question marks.
> >
> > As Debian Project Leader (DPL),
> >
&
Thanks to Andreas, Gianfranco, and others for pointing out that my
questions to the candidates would be improved by question marks.
As Debian Project Leader (DPL),
1. Will you remove the words "and Code of Conduct violations" from the
Community Team delegation charter?
2. Will you articula
At 2025-04-04T11:20:50+0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Here is a detailed timeline of the messages in the lasst month:
>
> 2024-03-14 We formally provide the production key
> and ask for it to be isntalled.
> 2024-03-15 Ansgar sends us an obnoxious reply.
> 2024-03-15 Ian forwards Ansgar
[this message is long; no one requires you to read it]
Hi Andreas, Gianfranco, Matthias, and Gerardo,
At 2025-03-21T09:00:23+0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Please take my deliberate silence as a signal that, as a potential
> DPL, I am not willing to reinforce a pattern that has been frequently
> cr
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