Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-12 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
init systems should be removed from the archive together with everything that becomes useless due to that, e.g. initscripts that have an equivalent systemd unit. Debian is still committed to working with derivatives that make different choices about init systems. -- Alexander E. Patrakov

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-02 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:39:46PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > I'm not sure why you think so, but I do acknowledge that this > is a hard thing to implement. Not wishing to oversimplify, this kind of strategy carries a high risk of conditioning the horse to walk *only* if there's a carr

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 03:00:29PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > I do not think it's part of the DPL responsibilities. I do > think that it's something that Debian needs and that doing it > with the DPL hat on is going to make it easier, it's not a > requirement (most stuff that DPL candida

Re: Question to all Candidates: we want more, aren't we?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:24:14AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > One important example is fixing bugs. Developers spend quite a > lot of time fixing bugs, and most of the time you don't need to > be a DD to fix those bugs, anybody can help out fixing more > bugs. > > Another example is the

Re: Question for DPL Candidates: Debian $$$

2009-03-30 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
y considered one of these sources. But as I said, these are not things we can easily solve by spending money. Zephaniah E. Hull. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:26:53AM +, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 02:28:21AM -0400, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 25,

Re: Question for DPL Candidates: Debian $$$

2009-03-25 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
ane, but.) Now, the issues with stuff embedded into credit card terminals or ATMs gets a lot nastier. Most of that goes into the hardware side, but I have not had to go through a PCI audit on those, so I'm not sure what all is involved. Zephaniah E. Hull. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Question for Ted Walther.

2006-03-17 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:10:43PM -0800, Ted Walther wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:57:15PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > >During the debate you made a number of assertions about a number of > >others running for DPL, specificly alleging that you had specific > >

Question for Ted Walther.

2006-03-16 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
examples in question in context wherever possible. Thank you. Zephaniah E. Hull. Debian Developer. -- 1024D/E65A7801 Zephaniah E. Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 92ED 94E4 B1E6 3624 226D 5727 4453 008B E65A 7801 CCs of replies from mailing lists are requested. *

Re: The Curious Case Of The Mountainous Molehill

2006-02-13 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
documentation > to be software. difficult trick that, to simultaneously believe that > something is and is not at the same time. > > > the DFSG is *Guidelines*, not *Rules*. Loony Literal Fundamentalists > need to remember that and take a reality check before commenting. >

Re: GFDL GR: Amendment: invariant-less in main v2

2006-02-09 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
--->8--- > > -- > Adeodato Simó dato at net.com.org.es > Debian Developer adeodato at debian.org > > Ara que ets la meva dona, te la fotré fins a la melsa, bacona! >

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-06 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
inutes. Hell, for 5 seconds. Read what the Debian project has ALREADY DECIDED on the matter, then give us a reason why a 'secondary section' is somehow special and should be exempt from the DFSG. On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 10:03:26AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-06 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 07:10:07PM +0200, Yavor Doganov wrote: > On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:37:20 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > > "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> So, I write a program, nice, big, with a license that says that you ca

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-06 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:31:38AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 05:55:54PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > i challenge any of you zealots to come up with a REAL WORLD, PRACTICAL > proof that the GFDL is non-free (and i mean actually non-free, not > merely

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 09:34:19AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:47:54AM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > I am unconvinced that the DFSG means 'all modifications', I think that > > it really does mean all reasonable modifications. > &g

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-05 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
in contrib or non-free instead of main? (Yes, I'm aware of the argument that the license breaks if the invariant sections are no longer secondary, if you invoke that in the argument I will read it as stating that I am also not free to remove the non-invariant portions of my choo

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, reading some of the replies MJ[0]'s post has received, I feel it's necessary to express my opinion on some of the points. I wasn't going to at first in order to keep the noise down, but IMO some views and opinions expressed by DPL candidates have turned noise into signal. On Fri, Mar 04,

Re: Exclusion, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:48:50AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Is that 65% for the d-i in the next release, or d-i current? That > still leaves a third excluded and d-i is *much* better than most, far > more widely translated more than most of debian. There's a lot of > other things to improve too.

Re: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:10:45PM -0500, Erinn Clark wrote: > None of the individuals [...] Can we _please_ stop refering to people by their nicknames, IRC handles or whatever it is that you are using? It's bad enough to try and remember a couple hundred names, don't make it worse by adding

Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64

2004-07-13 Thread Dale E Martin
8043 ftp-master would appear to be CCed on all of the messages associated with this bug. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Second Call for votes: General resolution: Sarge Release Schedule in view of GR 2004-003

2004-07-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Jul 04, 2004 at 06:15:01PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > >> [ ] Choice 7: Further discussion > > That's wrong, voting for 7 means the voter dislikes all options, and > wants either some other resolution, or no resolution. "Further discussion". That option means you want

Re: Info

2004-05-06 Thread E.
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Re: Info

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Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

2004-05-04 Thread Dale E Martin
to this goal. But to argue that software cannot be truly free without a free hardware platform; I'm not buying that one, despite fully understanding your argument. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [Proposal] Revised Social Contract

2004-01-13 Thread Dale E Martin
> However, if that's not clear to people, the proper place to address that > question would be in the DFSG. That's a very good point, agreed. Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available

Re: [Proposal] Revised Social Contract

2004-01-13 Thread Dale E Martin
t, I wonder if we need to go one step further. "Software and data that does not", or something else. If it's been agreed that everything that Debian distributes is software (I can live with that), please disregard. Thanks, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs,

Re: [Proposal] Revised Social Contract

2004-01-13 Thread Dale E Martin
> However, if that's not clear to people, the proper place to address that > question would be in the DFSG. That's a very good point, agreed. Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available

Re: [Proposal] Revised Social Contract

2004-01-13 Thread Dale E Martin
t, I wonder if we need to go one step further. "Software and data that does not", or something else. If it's been agreed that everything that Debian distributes is software (I can live with that), please disregard. Thanks, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs,

a different kind of proposal on the non-free issue

2004-01-10 Thread Dale E Martin
ecture me on the fine points of debating, and force me to look up words that are not common everyday vocabulary for proles such as myself. If you think that is fun or worthwhile, it is your perogative to focus the discussion that way. Personally, I'd like to find a solution to this issue tha

a different kind of proposal on the non-free issue

2004-01-10 Thread Dale E Martin
ecture me on the fine points of debating, and force me to look up words that are not common everyday vocabulary for proles such as myself. If you think that is fun or worthwhile, it is your perogative to focus the discussion that way. Personally, I'd like to find a solution to this issue tha

Re: Statistics on non-free usage

2004-01-08 Thread Dale E Martin
le|testing|unstable)/(main|non-free|contrib) show up - probably mostly stuff like newer versions of KDE from downloads.kde.org, backport collections, etc. On my machines there is a fair amount of that kind of stuff. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer

Re: Statistics on non-free usage

2004-01-08 Thread Dale E Martin
le|testing|unstable)/(main|non-free|contrib) show up - probably mostly stuff like newer versions of KDE from downloads.kde.org, backport collections, etc. On my machines there is a fair amount of that kind of stuff. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-07 Thread Dale E Martin
n). Overall, I guess that like always it's going to be an "action is louder than words" situation, and until someone cares enough to create a parallel nonfree.org and work out all of the details, the status quo will remain. The irony is that it's probably going to have to be someone who is very pro-removal of nonfree who does it. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-07 Thread Dale E Martin
n). Overall, I guess that like always it's going to be an "action is louder than words" situation, and until someone cares enough to create a parallel nonfree.org and work out all of the details, the status quo will remain. The irony is that it's probably going to have to be someone who is very pro-removal of nonfree who does it. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
ding Debian lets them > do that very easily, are then able to see first hand the benefits of a > pure free software system. We've not been doing a very good job at > helping introduce those folks to free software, but I can only imagine it > getting worse if we decide to drop

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
level that would be required by nonfree.org, so on the surface this doesn't seem like a showstopper. On the other hand, I'm not volunteering so apparently I'm not allowed to say that ;-) Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
ding Debian lets them > do that very easily, are then able to see first hand the benefits of a > pure free software system. We've not been doing a very good job at > helping introduce those folks to free software, but I can only imagine it > getting worse if we decide to drop

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
level that would be required by nonfree.org, so on the surface this doesn't seem like a showstopper. On the other hand, I'm not volunteering so apparently I'm not allowed to say that ;-) Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
> but, i guess that doesn't matter to you, because it's not you that will be > suffering the annoyance or the PITA. If you == "Dale E Martin", you guess wrong. If it didn't matter to me, I would not be engaged in this discussion at all. I'm trying to under

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-06 Thread Dale E Martin
> but, i guess that doesn't matter to you, because it's not you that will be > suffering the annoyance or the PITA. If you == "Dale E Martin", you guess wrong. If it didn't matter to me, I would not be engaged in this discussion at all. I'm trying to under

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-05 Thread Dale E Martin
of the good graces of the FSF to some degree. One benefit of dropping it would be that Debian could be "the official distribution" of the FSF. Whether that's desirable to the group as a whole or not is another big can of worms. :-) But there is one practical benefit that dropping non

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-05 Thread Dale E Martin
of the good graces of the FSF to some degree. One benefit of dropping it would be that Debian could be "the official distribution" of the FSF. Whether that's desirable to the group as a whole or not is another big can of worms. :-) But there is one practical benefit that dropping non

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-04 Thread Dale E Martin
ebian to be the only morally "pure" (i.e. not motivated by commercial gain) distribution. In that light, my opinion is that living by our own standards (specifically the DFSG) as a project "just makes sense." My $0.02, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Co

Re: Another Non-Free Proposal

2004-01-04 Thread Dale E Martin
ebian to be the only morally "pure" (i.e. not motivated by commercial gain) distribution. In that light, my opinion is that living by our own standards (specifically the DFSG) as a project "just makes sense." My $0.02, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Co

all countries in.come ops zmsj

2003-11-16 Thread Caitlynn E Jackson
Here's your chance for Cash Freedom http://90ui89av.com/boris5hco/index.htm us our familiar leap-year. But, unfortunately, the ancient complexity; but it strikes me as really odd, seeing in this instance of having caused the death of my brother, and that made her very wretched.

all countries in.come ops zmsj

2003-11-16 Thread Caitlynn E Jackson
Here's your chance for Cash Freedom http://90ui89av.com/boris5hco/index.htm us our familiar leap-year. But, unfortunately, the ancient complexity; but it strikes me as really odd, seeing in this instance of having caused the death of my brother, and that made her very wretched.

Re: GRs, irrelevant amendments, and insincere voting

2003-11-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
> I beg to differ. After catching up on the list I see that a couple > of people claim to have ranked option C below further discussion. > > Option C was proposed as "AMENDMENT BR3" to this mailing list[1]. > > There *was* no discussion of it, really. It collected its seconds, > and ther

Re: GRs, irrelevant amendments, and insincere voting

2003-11-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
> I beg to differ. After catching up on the list I see that a couple > of people claim to have ranked option C below further discussion. > > Option C was proposed as "AMENDMENT BR3" to this mailing list[1]. > > There *was* no discussion of it, really. It collected its seconds, > and ther

Re: GRs, irrelevant amendments, and insincere voting

2003-11-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 01:58:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 05:17:55PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Consider the "amendment" (in name only), > >Replace lines ^ through $ with the words, "Debian should continue to > >produce a distribution." > > Huh? D

Re: GRs, irrelevant amendments, and insincere voting

2003-11-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 01:58:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 05:17:55PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Consider the "amendment" (in name only), > >Replace lines ^ through $ with the words, "Debian should continue to > >produce a distribution." > > Huh? D

Re: A question for all candidates

2003-03-08 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:02:09PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > Also, it would show me that the project actually thinks that the > tasks I listed in my platform are important, and that the project > stands behind what I'm doing. I must have missed the memo. Since when does this project w

Re: A question for all candidates

2003-03-08 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 05:02:09PM +1100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > Also, it would show me that the project actually thinks that the > tasks I listed in my platform are important, and that the project > stands behind what I'm doing. I must have missed the memo. Since when does this project w

Re: Questions to all candidates

2003-02-28 Thread Dale E Martin
tart any flame fest of any kind, but I guess I'm pointing out how we have a bit of infrastructure already that could be used to infer some things about users.) Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgpOTdErLzkMu.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Questions to all candidates

2003-02-28 Thread Dale E Martin
tart any flame fest of any kind, but I guess I'm pointing out how we have a bit of infrastructure already that could be used to infer some things about users.) Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, > > 4. The DAM is : > > > > [x] a critical part of our infrastructure > > [ ] guilty of not rejecting people when they deserve to be > > That's possible, but I'm not sure it should really be the DAMs job to > exercise a veto on an NM candidate that has otherwise passed the > proces

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:56:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I will add that, since the Release Manager is a delegate of the DPL, one > of the first things I'd be doing in office would be asking the RM, "so, > what's the lay of the land?" Why don't you ask right now? (I'm serious) I

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi, > > 4. The DAM is : > > > > [x] a critical part of our infrastructure > > [ ] guilty of not rejecting people when they deserve to be > > That's possible, but I'm not sure it should really be the DAMs job to > exercise a veto on an NM candidate that has otherwise passed the > proces

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:56:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I will add that, since the Release Manager is a delegate of the DPL, one > of the first things I'd be doing in office would be asking the RM, "so, > what's the lay of the land?" Why don't you ask right now? (I'm serious) I

E-Commerce Millenium Newsletter, Issue #23

2002-07-08 Thread E-Commerce NewsLetter
Hi Readers! In the wake of so much bad news for e-commerce and with the realization that so many smaller webmasters are still struggling to bring traffic to their sites, we've created this special issue with ANSWERS to your most commonly asked questions in mind! This month we cove

E-Commerce Millenium Newsletter, Issue #23

2002-07-08 Thread E-Commerce NewsLetter
Hi Readers! In the wake of so much bad news for e-commerce and with the realization that so many smaller webmasters are still struggling to bring traffic to their sites, we've created this special issue with ANSWERS to your most commonly asked questions in mind! This month we cove

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This year we are using a new method of properly determining > concordcet ballots using the Cloneproof SSD method. The script that > calculates this is appended below. Thanks for the clarification Manoj. I see the script does work as d

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Thomas Bushnell, BSG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) Your candidate > 2) None of the above > 3 and 4) The other two This is actually incorrect. That means you prefer one of the the other two over the other, which might seem irrelevant, but under this voting system makes a difference.

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This year we are using a new method of properly determining > concordcet ballots using the Cloneproof SSD method. The script that > calculates this is appended below. Thanks for the clarification Manoj. I see the script does work as

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Thomas Bushnell, BSG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1) Your candidate > 2) None of the above > 3 and 4) The other two This is actually incorrect. That means you prefer one of the the other two over the other, which might seem irrelevant, but under this voting system makes a difference

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If you want to select one person, and leave the rest equally, you > > could put a "1" for the person (or thing) you like, and mark the > > rest as "2". > [...] > unacceptable blank. Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't > repeat

Re: Call for votes for the debian project leader election 2002

2002-03-27 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If you want to select one person, and leave the rest equally, you > > could put a "1" for the person (or thing) you like, and mark the > > rest as "2". > [...] > unacceptable blank. Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't > repea

Re: Sourceforge Site for Debian

2002-03-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's so long ago that I didn't remember about that. :-) In fact, I'm not > sure that SF is useful as a general todo list ... it provides such > features (various trackers) for each individual project however. Well, yes. SF (as a project hostin

Re: Sourceforge Site for Debian

2002-03-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's so long ago that I didn't remember about that. :-) In fact, I'm not > sure that SF is useful as a general todo list ... it provides such > features (various trackers) for each individual project however. Well, yes. SF (as a project hosti

Re: Sourceforge Site for Debian

2002-03-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The explanation is that "Sourceforge for Debian" was of very little > interest for me several months ago, it's only once you suggested me > the idea (it's due to you this item in my project), that I considered > it and thought about the advantag

Re: Sourceforge Site for Debian

2002-03-07 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The explanation is that "Sourceforge for Debian" was of very little > interest for me several months ago, it's only once you suggested me > the idea (it's due to you this item in my project), that I considered > it and thought about the advanta

Questions for the candidates

2002-03-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi everyone, A couple of questions for the candidates: 1. The project's main goal is to produce a 100% free operating system, and in my opinion we are doing quite well in that respect. But the question of *how* this goal is achieved is seldom posed. In particular, I have the feeli

Questions for the candidates

2002-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi everyone, A couple of questions for the candidates: 1. The project's main goal is to produce a 100% free operating system, and in my opinion we are doing quite well in that respect. But the question of *how* this goal is achieved is seldom posed. In particular, I have the feel

Question to the candidates about Debian and government

2002-03-05 Thread Dale E Martin
one else's? Thanks, Dale [1] http://oss-institute.org/new_what_is.htm -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgpbxtJtL6R3l.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Question restated

2002-03-05 Thread Dale E Martin
#x27;m sure you would be noticable as a DPL :-) I don't want anyone - including you - to take this as any kind of attack. As I stated early, I feel that having a strong and vocal leader would be good for the project at this point in time. It's ready to be shaken up bit as we're getti

Question to the candidates about Debian and government

2002-03-05 Thread Dale E Martin
one else's? Thanks, Dale [1] http://oss-institute.org/new_what_is.htm -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available msg01421/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Questions to Candidates

2002-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When CosmicRay CosmicRay? -- M.

Re: Question restated

2002-03-05 Thread Dale E Martin
#x27;m sure you would be noticable as a DPL :-) I don't want anyone - including you - to take this as any kind of attack. As I stated early, I feel that having a strong and vocal leader would be good for the project at this point in time. It's ready to be shaken up bit as we're getti

Re: Questions to Candidates

2002-03-05 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When CosmicRay CosmicRay? -- M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Question restated

2002-03-04 Thread Dale E Martin
ts.debian.org/debian-x/2001/debian-x-200110/msg00144.html To me it doesn't matter if the statement made was justified or not - I don't really want to see the DPL making such comments in public forums. Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engine

Questions for Raphael Hertzog.

2002-03-04 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
alternatives for the management software should be considered before the sourceforge model is adopted. 2: 1.9 CVS repository for debian directories I think I can fit this to one very very simple question. Have you ever used CVS for any length of time with others? Zephaniah E. Hull

Question restated

2002-03-04 Thread Dale E Martin
ts.debian.org/debian-x/2001/debian-x-200110/msg00144.html To me it doesn't matter if the statement made was justified or not - I don't really want to see the DPL making such comments in public forums. Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [E

Questions for Raphael Hertzog.

2002-03-04 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
other alternatives for the management software should be considered before the sourceforge model is adopted. 2: 1.9 CVS repository for debian directories I think I can fit this to one very very simple question. Have you ever used CVS for any length of time with others? Zephaniah E. Hull

Re: [PROPOSED] Michael Bramer must stop spamming or be expelled

2001-10-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I propose that Michael Bramer be ordered to stop sending automated mails > to other developers (regarding the DDTS or any other subject). > > If he does not comply within 24 hours of ratification of this proposal, > he will be expelled from t

Re: [PROPOSED] Michael Bramer must stop spamming or be expelled

2001-10-04 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I propose that Michael Bramer be ordered to stop sending automated mails > to other developers (regarding the DDTS or any other subject). > > If he does not comply within 24 hours of ratification of this proposal, > he will be expelled from

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote > > "no, no matter what" do not leave an option black but rank "None Of > > The Above" higher than the unacceptable choices. > > So what exactly is "open for interpretation

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote > > "no, no matter what" do not leave an option black but rank "None Of > > The Above" higher than the unacceptable choices. > > So what exactly is "open for interpretatio

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
the tally for that > > particular vote. > > Debatable. Unmarked votes can also be counted as "equally last", so > that "--1--" count is the same as "22122". Exactly. Given options ABCD and none of the above (E), and given what the constitution

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
the tally for that > > particular vote. > > Debatable. Unmarked votes can also be counted as "equally last", so > that "--1--" count is the same as "22122". Exactly. Given options ABCD and none of the above (E), and given what the constitution

Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's how people voted: Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) confirm that the numbers are right? I can get those numbers only if I make an assumption which a) I think is wrong b) throws some people's votes out of the

Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's how people voted: Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) confirm that the numbers are right? I can get those numbers only if I make an assumption which a) I think is wrong b) throws some people's votes out of th

Re: And the winner is...

2001-03-29 Thread Dale E Martin
> Argh! > > Folks, I misread the constitution. > > Shoot me, now. The cabal rewrote your copy temporarily on your hard drive, and now they've got the information they need! ;-) Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [E

Re: And the winner is...

2001-03-29 Thread Dale E Martin
> Argh! > > Folks, I misread the constitution. > > Shoot me, now. The cabal rewrote your copy temporarily on your hard drive, and now they've got the information they need! ;-) Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [E

Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates

2001-03-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wouldn't want an elected DPL to blindly do X, because that is what > he/she promised before the election, when new evidence comes to light > that indicates that X is bad (eg. perhaps some new solution Y is > suggested that removes the need for X).

Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates

2001-03-12 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wouldn't want an elected DPL to blindly do X, because that is what > he/she promised before the election, when new evidence comes to light > that indicates that X is bad (eg. perhaps some new solution Y is > suggested that removes the need for X).

Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates

2001-03-08 Thread Dale E Martin
on there will even be hardware support for them. There are also plugins for most major players (including WinAmp)... Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available pgpkQMzLypOhW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Some questions for the DPL candidates

2001-03-08 Thread Dale E Martin
on there will even be hardware support for them. There are also plugins for most major players (including WinAmp)... Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available PGP signature

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to see a list containing that information. If elected DPL, I > would attempt to ensure that we have one. "If elected DPL". That's... enlightening. -- Marcelo

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to see a list containing that information. If elected DPL, I > would attempt to ensure that we have one. "If elected DPL". That's... enlightening. -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsu

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-23 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
rain from flaming the candidates. Why should he? The candidate in question seems to have no problems flaming everyone himself. Zephaniah E. Hull. > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul -- PGP EA5198D1-Zephaniah E. Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>-GPG E65A7801 Keys available at ht

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-23 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
rain from flaming the candidates. Why should he? The candidate in question seems to have no problems flaming everyone himself. Zephaniah E. Hull. > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul -- PGP EA5198D1-Zephaniah E. Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>-GPG E65A7801 Keys available at ht

Re: What next?

2000-12-18 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
DWN, that after all the flames and bickering there is finally something for people to second which would resolve this whole mess. That being said, consider this an official second of the proposal below, this message is gpg signed with my key. Zephaniah E. Hull. > > I hadn't proposed a fu

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