Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

2024-06-19 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 11:18:36AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Other ideas like waldi's 3.0 (gitarchive) also go in that direction. > > Similarly, I'm not sure a source package based on Git avoids the need for > a source package build system. There are a ton of ways that maintainers > stor

Re: A thought experiment regarding tag2upload and trust

2024-06-16 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 11:03:17AM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: > If Ian were to offer a hosting service for such personal tag2upload > instances, in a way that he assured me could not be used to sign > packages unless I had signed a matching git-tag, I would be willing to > trust his assurances,

Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

2024-06-12 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 04:23:29PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 15:20:45 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > tag2upload, like dgit, ensures and insists that the git tree you are > > uploading corresponds precisely [1] to the generated source package. > > > > If you base your Deb

Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

2024-06-12 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 08:59:46AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Am Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:27:56PM -0700 schrieb Russ Allbery: > > > As I said several times before: the implementation has known security > > > bugs (unless you fixed them). But I guess this is going to get ignored > > > again anyway

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-30 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 05:05:35PM -0400, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > Didn't we have buster/updates for a while? Is breakage related to that > the reason why we're not doing this here? We didn't have "buster" and "buster/updates" in the same place. And less "buster/updates" being a subset of "buster

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-30 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 03:11:25PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > DSC 1 says we will never "require the use of a non-free component". To me, > this is the major relevant issue. Nothing in Debian requires any non-free component. Require would be: can't be used without, which clearly is not tru

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-24 Thread Bastian Blank
Moin On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 11:05:21AM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > My recent experience with servers (10 and 25 Gbits/s dual port SFP+) is that > you need firmware for network cards when running with: > - Broadcom (bnx2 / bnx2x) > - Qlogic > - Intel (they partially work without the firmware-mi

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-23 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:20:09PM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > It would be nice to have both installers presented on the front page, so users > can choose. I have no strong opinion on whether the "plus" installer would be > called official or not. While we are at it, can you please propose a word

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-11 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 02:23:58PM -0500, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > I'm legitimately surprised to hear that anyone in the Debian project > believes that the term "FTP master" is *not* confused and outdated. I'm really surprised that ftp master is more important than the weird definition of DD a

Re: Privacy guarantees

2021-09-12 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 06:18:16AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:44 PM Felix Lechner wrote: > > A fellow developer and I have reached an impasse over the appropriate > > level of privacy guarantees in Debian. [1] > I think that lintian privacy tags currently represent several

Re: Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-17 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi Brian On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 01:10:58AM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote: > Do you think it's ok in any case to remove init scripts. Let's say an > upstream stops maintaining init scripts, I would like to know if this is a real world problem. Please provide an example of a package where the init scr

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2014: Rebuttals

2014-08-06 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 03:53:09AM +0200, Jan Sechser wrote: > can you plz remove me from the list thanks Please do that yourself. For more information read the footer on _every_ mail; I'll quote one for you: > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "un

Re: Results for General Resolution: Lenny and resolving DFSG violations

2009-01-01 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 08:45:16PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > If there was a GR which chainged the Debian Social contract which > relaxed the first clause to only include __software__ running on the > Host CPU, I would enthusiastically vote for such a measure. I doubt that this a usable definiti

Re: Discussion period: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-10-27 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:35:23AM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > -- > - Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the > debian-devel-announce >mailing list (Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) about "Developer >Status

Re: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-10-24 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 09:15:43PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > The Debian Project, by the way of a general resolution of its developpers, > decides: > > - The changes announced the 22nd of October on the debian-devel-announce >mailing list (Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) are suspended.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Final consensual proposal for the problematic firmware issue in the linux kernel sources.

2006-10-11 Thread Bastian Blank
I second the following proposal. > === START OF PROPOSAL === > Definition: For the purpose of this resolution, the "firmware" mentioned below > designates binary data included in some of the linux kernel drivers, usually > as > hex-encoded variables and whose purpose is to be loaded into a given

Re: [AMENDMENT]: Release Etch now, with source-less but legal and freely licensed firmware

2006-09-27 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 12:36:56PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > , > | 1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software > | community (Social Contract #4); > | 2. We acknowledge that there is a lot of progress in the kernel > | firmware issue; however, it is not

Re: Let's vote ...

2006-09-22 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:11:02PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 10:45:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > come to an agreement about what exactly in that email > > constitutes the actual general resolution? I second the following GR. -BEGIN PGP SIGNE

Re: kernel firmwares: GR proposal

2006-08-30 Thread Bastian Blank
Seconded. On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 11:06:54PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote: > Overview: > > The Linux kernel source contains device drivers that ship with firmware > files provided by the hardware manufacturer. They are uploaded during > the driver initialization to the corresponding hardware d