Raphael Hertzog dijo [Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:13:54AM +0100]:
> Dear Debian DPL candidates,
Nobody is addressing me, but it's a long-held tradition that we all
jump to whatever mailing list posts that in some way itches us ;-)
> when I look back at my old platforms[1][2]3] I can already see a tre
On 16077 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help
smooth the internal working of organizations, I know at least of
Django
with its fellowship program:
https://www.djangoproject.com/fundraising/#fellowship-program
The current res
On 19.03.21 19:47, Sruthi Chandran wrote:
> The complete volunteer nature of Debian is one of the important
> and attractive point that makes Debian different from other distros.
The complete volunteer nature also means that certain tasks/chores get
done slowly, or sometimes not at all.
For examp
Hi,
thanks for your answer!
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Um, no.
> Money is power.
> The DPL should help the project achieve its goals.
> The DPL should not use the project's money to achieve their own
> personal agenda.
I would like to respond two things:
1/ The DPL would not use
Hi Raphaël
On 2021/03/19 11:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> when I look back at my old platforms[1][2]3] I can already see a trend
> where we move from "concrete changes that we want to see in Debian" to
> "some vague idea of how we want to run the project" but this trend seems
> to have continued an
On 19/03/21 3:59 pm, Enrico Zini wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 09:16:15PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
>> I don't think that lack of interest is the problem here, but I do think
>> that Debian contributors tend to be already starved for time, and trying
>> to get them to do more is like tryi
On 19/03/21 11:35 pm, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> Dear DPL candidates,
>
> In becoming a DD, one of the main challenges I faced was the absence of
> a standard way to package software in Debian.
>
> I've since seen first hand how having a very large number of ways to
> package things in Debi
You asked if DDs would support the DPL hiring people.
So I answer as an DD.
> "Raphael" == Raphael Hertzog writes:
Raphael> * it means that the DPL can organize the administrative
Raphael> work so that it ends up on the shoulders of paid staff, and
Raphael> the DPL can take a mo
On 20/03/21 12:31 am, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> The idea was discussed two years ago. Sam chose a range of people to
> help him with delegations.
>
> Being a DPL is a high-energy thing even when one doesn't try to "lead"
> the project /per se/.
>
> Do you think the Project should consider the
The idea was discussed two years ago. Sam chose a range of people to
help him with delegations.
Being a DPL is a high-energy thing even when one doesn't try to "lead"
the project /per se/.
Do you think the Project should consider the opportunity of trying to
establish more clearly a role of "DPL
On 19/03/21 1:14 am, Philip Hands wrote:
> ...
> Could it be that people are being protective of their motivation?
I agree with this point. Not all want money as their motivation.
> ...
> I've been pondering how it might be possible to spend more of Debian's
> money, and it occurred to me that we
On 19/03/21 3:08 pm, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hello,
>
> as a followup to my former question that dressed a negative picture
> of the DPL role in the last years, I'd like to make a proposal and
> see what you all think of it.
>
> There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to hel
On 19/03/21 2:43 pm, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Dear Debian DPL candidates,
>
> when I look back at my old platforms[1][2]3] I can already see a trend
> where we move from "concrete changes that we want to see in Debian" to
> "some vague idea of how we want to run the project" but this trend seems
>
Dear DPL candidates,
In becoming a DD, one of the main challenges I faced was the absence of
a standard way to package software in Debian.
I've since seen first hand how having a very large number of ways to
package things in Debian confuse and ultimately discourage people that
would otherwise ha
On 18/03/21 11:16 pm, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Dear DPL candidates,
>
> when I was younger, I dreamed to be paid to do Debian work. But that was
> not possible, and that's the reason why I started my own company Freexian
> 16 years ago. Through those years I always kept this goal in mind (it's
> pa
Adam, I think a more respectful way of including trans members of our
community would be to count them as the gender they identify with
(assuming you know).
You'll still end up with a category for nonbinary of course.
On 2021-03-19 08 h 02, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> I've been telling a few people last month that I would really liked to
>> have an Enterprise Edition Online MiniDebConf, unfortunately I don't
>> have any time/energy to instigate that currently.
> Something for a Debian fellow that we could hire ;-)
> "Raphael" == Raphael Hertzog writes:
Raphael> With that said, there could be many questions to be asked
Raphael> but I will concentrate on three:
Raphael> 1/ Why have you all given up on the idea to lead Debian? It
Raphael> seems to me that you are happy with the DPL bein
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 01:42:37PM +0100, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> But the Flosspols study of 2005 had already made the point that
> this might be a problem for diversity: there are 10 times more women working
> in proprietary software (~20%) than in free software (~2%)
Data for Debian: 0.9%
Method
Hello,
as said in private some time ago to Raphaël, I find Freexian's
initiative great, and I wish there were more options to get paid to do
Debian work.
On 19.03.21 11:29, Enrico Zini wrote:
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 09:16:15PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
I don't think that lack of intere
On 19.03.21 11:29, Enrico Zini wrote:
>> I don't think that lack of interest is the problem here, but I do think
>> that Debian contributors tend to be already starved for time, and trying
>> to get them to do more is like trying to tap water out of an empty well.
>> For some, a financial incentive
Hi,
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> > 1/ How do you explain this lack of interest?
>
> I don't think that lack of interest is the problem here, but I do think
> that Debian contributors tend to be already starved for time, and trying
> to get them to do more is like trying to tap wa
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 09:16:15PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> I don't think that lack of interest is the problem here, but I do think
> that Debian contributors tend to be already starved for time, and trying
> to get them to do more is like trying to tap water out of an empty well.
> For som
Hello,
as a followup to my former question that dressed a negative picture
of the DPL role in the last years, I'd like to make a proposal and
see what you all think of it.
There are quite a few software projects that have hired staff to help
smooth the internal working of organizations, I know at
Dear Debian DPL candidates,
when I look back at my old platforms[1][2]3] I can already see a trend
where we move from "concrete changes that we want to see in Debian" to
"some vague idea of how we want to run the project" but this trend seems
to have continued and amplified to the point that this
On 2021/03/18 23:33, Philip Hands wrote:
> There were enough people keen on that happening that if we'd each had an
> earmarked e.g. 1k budget to allocate, we could have just agreed it
> amongst ourselves, and done it, without a lot of back and forth on the
> lists trying to establish whether there
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