Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, another option would be 'unstable-proposed' (or whatever) where packages get uploaded to, and which only gets moved to 'unstable' if they don't fail piuparts, autopkgtests (plain build tests) and so forth... humans shouldn't look at stuff robots don't wanna see. -- cheers, Holger

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 27/03/20 at 08:18 -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 09:39AM +01, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: > > > My point was to ask if there are any points in this list that could be > > harmful in the scenario proposed by Lucas. > > We try to stop packages of sufficiently low quality

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Martin, On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 12:23PM +01, Martin Pitt wrote: > At least during my many years of Ubuntu archive administration I've actually > seen quite a lot of packages which contained non-distributable files, had > hilariously broken maintainer scripts (which could then also damage *oth

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Fri 27 Mar 2020 at 09:39AM +01, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: > My point was to ask if there are any points in this list that could be > harmful in the scenario proposed by Lucas. We try to stop packages of sufficiently low quality entering the archive at all, so that other contributors don't ha

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 27, 2020 9:37:28 AM EDT Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 27/03/20 at 09:23 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Friday, March 27, 2020 8:40:11 AM EDT Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > On 27/03/20 at 12:23 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > > > > At least during my many years of Ubuntu archive adminis

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 27/03/20 at 09:23 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, March 27, 2020 8:40:11 AM EDT Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 27/03/20 at 12:23 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > > > At least during my many years of Ubuntu archive administration I've > > > actually seen quite a lot of packages which containe

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 27, 2020 8:40:11 AM EDT Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 27/03/20 at 12:23 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > > At least during my many years of Ubuntu archive administration I've > > actually seen quite a lot of packages which contained non-distributable > > files, had hilariously broken maint

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL Le 27/03/2020 à 13:40, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : On 27/03/20 at 12:23 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: At least during my many years of Ubuntu archive administration I've actually seen quite a lot of packages which contained non-distributable files, had hilariously broken maint

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 27/03/20 at 12:23 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote: > At least during my many years of Ubuntu archive administration I've actually > seen quite a lot of packages which contained non-distributable files, had > hilariously broken maintainer scripts (which could then also damage *other* > software on your

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Martin Pitt
Lucas Nussbaum [2020-03-26 14:58 +0100]: > - package is uploaded > - package gets accepted in unstable > - package gets reviewed, a bug is filed > - bug gets fixed > > Except that with (B), we avoid the wait in NEW. > > One important question is: how often does the FTP team run into a > package t

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Lucas On 2020/03/26 09:33, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > For as long as I can remember, there has been complaints about the > delays caused by NEW processing (and > https://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html shows that we constantly have > 250-300 packages waiting to be processed). There was even a bri

Re: Response to jcc's rebuttal

2020-03-27 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Brian On 2020/03/24 18:33, Brian Gupta wrote: > I certainly don’t think it will be possible to create both Foundations in one > term, and it may not be possible to even finish creating the US Foundation in > one DPL term, but a lot of progress can be made. In my platform, I estimated > 6-12 mo

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Xavier
Le 27/03/2020 à 10:03, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > Quoting Xavier (2020-03-27 09:38:54) >> Le 27/03/2020 à 09:22, Ulrike Uhlig a écrit : >>> Hi! >>> >>> On 26.03.20 15:05, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 26/03/20 at 14:42 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > For the avoidance of doubt, I wrote none o

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Xavier (2020-03-27 09:38:54) > Le 27/03/2020 à 09:22, Ulrike Uhlig a écrit : > > Hi! > > > > On 26.03.20 15:05, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >> On 26/03/20 at 14:42 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: For the avoidance of doubt, I wrote none of below quoted text. > >> A/ > >> - package is uploaded

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Xavier
Le 27/03/2020 à 09:22, Ulrike Uhlig a écrit : > Hi! > > On 26.03.20 15:05, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> On 26/03/20 at 14:42 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> A/ >> - package is uploaded >> - package waits in NEW >> - package gets reviewed, gets accepted in unstable with a bug filed >> - bug gets f

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi, On 27.03.20 09:32, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2020-03-27 09:22:46) >> Another question is: what other things are reviewed by the FTP team? >> Like, is there some sort of basic security review, are there packages >> that are not appropriate to be uploaded to the archive f

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2020-03-27 09:22:46) > Another question is: what other things are reviewed by the FTP team? > Like, is there some sort of basic security review, are there packages > that are not appropriate to be uploaded to the archive for some reason > or another? And then this would not

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 26.03.20 15:05, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 26/03/20 at 14:42 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > A/ > - package is uploaded > - package waits in NEW > - package gets reviewed, gets accepted in unstable with a bug filed > - bug gets fixed > > B/ > - package is uploaded > - package gets accept