Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

2014-11-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 10:34:13AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I've briefly discussed this off list with Sam Hartman, who proposed a > sensible rationale (although not necessarily the same Antony had in > mind). The rationale is avoiding suddenly under staffing the ctte too > much, making it

Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

2014-11-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 03:54:26PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > - I haven't mentioned it yet publicly (still due to ENOTIME), but I > still have mixed feelings about the provision that allows "younger" > ctte members to step down, inhibiting the expiry of "older" members. > I'm not nece

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 01:24:16AM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > >I'm also utterly disgusted that this GR was proposed by Ian, someone who > >perceives himself as loser of the tech-ctte decision (instead of accepting > >a group decission of a group which he is part of) and thus deciced to beat > >Debi

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi again, after re-reading these threads to find that message-id I missed to reply to this: On Sonntag, 9. November 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: > You can't decide such a thing single-handedly. Are you also disgusted > that 11 people seconded Ian's proposal? no, not at all. cheers, Holger

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jakub, On Sonntag, 9. November 2014, Jakub Wilk wrote: > I'm afraid that if you want to conduct a personal attack on Ian, you > have to try a little bit harder. I'm not interested in personally attacking Ian. At all. But I do think his _behaviour_ has been quite unacceptable and also I think

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-08 Thread Jakub Wilk
Hi Holger, I'm afraid that if you want to conduct a personal attack on Ian, you have to try a little bit harder. * Holger Levsen , 2014-11-08, 20:46: I'm also utterly disgusted that this GR was proposed by Ian, someone who perceives himself as loser of the tech-ctte decision (instead of acce

Re: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-08 Thread Svante Signell
Get real man. This is a very important issue in the whole free software world. Freedom of choice or not, especially for *nix*. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.deb

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, After reading https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_003 in full again, I came to the conclusion that I wanted to publically withdraw my support for Choice 2, after re-reading it several times and sleeping over it. So why do I dislike choice 2? Choice 2 has two paragraphs I disagree with, rat