On 03/21/2013 02:02 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/21/2013 11:52 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>> I think the outcome of moving a package that falls in the "requires
>> external stuff" from main to contrib would rarely qualify as silly.
>>
>> Take for example the twitter perl packages. The API is
On 03/21/2013 11:52 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> I think the outcome of moving a package that falls in the "requires
> external stuff" from main to contrib would rarely qualify as silly.
>
> Take for example the twitter perl packages. The API is changing (of
> course that is something outside of
Hi all,
I propose that either the discussion is reshaped to be more interactive with
the candidates, or it is moved to another channel where a broader participation
is expected.
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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bart Martens writes:
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms are
>>> frequently used to manipulate the data in those platforms including
>>> pul
On 2013-03-18 15:55, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
How do we make an inherently archive-wide technical decision when
multiple, possibly equally valid solutions do exist?
(I think the latter part, the existence of alternatives, is
particularly
important here, as we have well-established approaches
Bart Martens writes:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:35:19AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Bart Martens writes:
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms are
frequently used to manipulate the data in
Jérémy Bobbio writes:
> I'll need to come up with other tools to think about the danger about
> freedom I perceive from the “cloud”…
For the record, I think most of us are on the same page about the danger.
I certainly agree with your concern; I'm just not sure that the
organization of the Debia
Bart Martens writes:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:27:58AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> You can use pidgin-facebookchat to talk to a non-free service; but
>> whatever you do, the result will *never* be that you end up with a
>> system which has some non-DFSG-free software installed. As such, I
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:15:58 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> Even the suggestion of a testing removal can evoke negative feelings
> for those affected (sometimes from those on the sidelines too). A
> recent example:
> http://bugs.debian.org/703258
There seems to be a misunderstanding; at least m
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:35:19AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Bart Martens writes:
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms are
> >> frequently used to manipulate the data in those platforms includ
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 09:27:58AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> You can use flashplugin-nonfree to download a piece of software that has
> a nonfree license, which is then installed on your system; the result is
> that you now have a system which has some non-DFSG-free software
> installed. To b
Bart Martens writes:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms are
>> frequently used to manipulate the data in those platforms including
>> pull data *out* of those platforms. It would be quite ironic if
On 20/03/13 at 01:15 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:14 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> >> Maybe we could discriminate on the package's priorities. For example,
> >> about a third of the 49 packages *really* blocking the release (not
> >> waiting for a transition) are from "ex
(I still hadn't replied to that question -- I'll do that by following-up
on Moray's reply since I agree with most of it)
On 12/03/13 at 17:11 +0300, Moray Allan wrote:
> [...]
>
> - End-users are moving to web applications/"the cloud". Few of the
> most heavily used ones are free software. Even
Hi!
Mario Lang writes:
> I'd like to know your opinion on this. Are people with disabilities
> something that we want to support, or is it just luck if "they" get a
> working system. As a Free Software community, should we make sure that
> the digital divide is not going to increase, or is acc
Charles Plessy writes:
> In Debian, we stay member until we die or quit (or very exceptionally, are
> expelled). The consequence is that it is hard to evaluate how much active
> members we have. It may also create more crispations about giving membership.
>
> We often discussed about how to bec
Steve Langasek:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
> > 3. One test I've been taught to use to reason about free software is the
> >Desert Island test [2] which starts by:
>
> > Imagine a castaway on a desert island with a solar-powered
> > computer.
>
> >
Hi Bart,
On 20-03-13 07:47, Bart Martens wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
>> Dear candidates, do you think that libechonest [3] should be called free
>> software? As it requires software outside of the distribution to
>> function, do you think it should be mo
On Tue, March 19, 2013 23:52, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
> Do you have ideas on how to attract more volunteers to the dull, hard,
> and sometimes boring tasks of taking care of security issues in Debian?
Perhaps it would be useful if we tried not to scare people away with
mischaracterizations that the w
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On 20-03-13 00:46, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
>> 3. One test I've been taught to use to reason about free software
>> is the Desert Island test [2] which starts by:
>
>> Imagine a castaway
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:09:00PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> note that free software interfaces to proprietary cloud platforms
> are frequently used to manipulate the data in those platforms including
> pull data *out* of those platforms. It would be quite ironic if we
> refused to include in t
On Mi, 20 mar 13, 06:47:32, Bart Martens wrote:
>
> Good question. See also for example bug 681659. I don't know why
> pidgin-facebookchat would belong in section main while flashplugin-nonfree
> would belong section contrib. Both packages contain software that can freely
> be redistributed but
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 04:46:42PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
> > 3. One test I've been taught to use to reason about free software is the
> >Desert Island test [2] which starts by:
>
> > Imagine a castaway on a desert isl
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