Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Toni Mueller dijo [Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:27:57AM +0100]: > > What would be different if there was no leader? Where would the > > project lose more? Would it gain in some aspect? > > I am not a candidate, but I can immediately see that the press would > take the voice of "random DDs" as the voice

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > What would be different if there was no leader? Where would the > project lose more? Would it gain in some aspect? The Constitution gives the DPL a number of duties that would then be vacant. Even though it wouldn't necessarily lead to total

Re: Question to Candidates: Disappearing DPLs?

2010-03-17 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: >  I have a question to the candidates: History has shown that DPLs more > or less disappear not too long after their period or at least reduce > their visible efforts immensly. I wonder where you see the reasons for > this trend, what your i

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-17 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Hmm, you got me thinking here on why this happened, as I share your > impression. Maybe it was because the project as a whole put more care > into the release process after the massive pain it was to release > Sarge, a three-year-long pain we

Re: Will you withdraw delegations of DD not behaving correctly?

2010-03-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:13:23AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > What do you think of this and would you be ready to withdraw a delegation > for a delegate that behaved badly towards another DD (even outside of his > delegated role), that has been warned once by you and that did it again >

Re: Q for all candidates: (Old) Architecture Support

2010-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Hi Yavor! On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 03:49:16PM +0200, Yavor Doganov wrote: > This asset is not something to be proud of because of shallow > marketing reasons -- it benefits the whole Free World as many bugs are > uncovered, reported, and fixed, quite often by Debian people. It > would not be incor

Re: Q for all candidates: (Old) Architecture Support

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:02:56AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > By the way, I would like to react to one of Wouter's comment, that package > maintainers should fix the porting bugs themselves. I didn't mean to imply that, and if it came across as such, I would like to apologise. What I meant to

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ quoted text reordered ] On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:32:22PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > (Yes, quite a hypothetical question. However, if 10-year predictions > are allowed, then mine is too ;-) ) Well, let's not drift too much in that direction, shall we? :-) (Just kidding, this question is perfe

Re: Q for all candidates: (Old) Architecture Support

2010-03-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 03:49:16PM +0200, Yavor Doganov a écrit : > > * There should be an entitiy within the project to decide which arch > gets released and which not, which one is blocking the whole release > process and ought to be ignored for testing propagation, etc. > Naturally, such

Re: Question to all the candidates: communication

2010-03-17 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:17:06AM +0700, Paul Wise a écrit : > > Which project and external Debian-related communications media do you > follow? and contribute to? As well as a general list I'm interested in > specific lists (for eg #debian, #debian-devel, debian-de...@l.d.o, > debian-proj...@l.d

Re: Q for all candidates: (Old) Architecture Support

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 03:49:16PM +0200, Yavor Doganov wrote: > Debian has been known through the years for its excellent support for > many architectures. In theory, a released arch should be as stable as > the common/popular archs. (In practice, it is/was pretty close, which > is good enough.)

Q for all candidates: (Old) Architecture Support

2010-03-17 Thread Yavor Doganov
Debian has been known through the years for its excellent support for many architectures. In theory, a released arch should be as stable as the common/popular archs. (In practice, it is/was pretty close, which is good enough.) This asset is not something to be proud of because of shallow market

Re: Question to Candidates: Disappearing DPLs?

2010-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 08:58:42AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > DPLs continue to be volunteers and as such they can be hit by any kind > of time demands from their job, their personal life, etc. Probably, the > fact that they are in a central position, which is expected to > communicate a lot

Re: Question to Candidates: Disappearing DPLs?

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 08:30:03AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > I have a question to the candidates: History has shown that DPLs more > or less disappear not too long after their period or at least reduce > their visible efforts immensly. I wonder where you see the reasons for > this trend, what

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:01:14PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Nobody can do a sponsored upload, except a DD. Nobody can do an NMU, > except a DD. Nobody can maintain a buildd host, except a DD. It was pointed out to me on IRC that yes, there are sponsored NMUs, and that it therefore is 'stran

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Hmm, you got me thinking here on why this happened, as I share your > impression. Maybe it was because the project as a whole put more care > into the release process after the massive pain it was to release > Sarge, a three-year-long p

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:32:22PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > So, today is April 15, and our Secretary prepares for a very difficult > announcement: There is a majority of votes for NOTA. Or we didn't > reach quorum. Or whatever you fancy - But the result is, none of the > four candidates won the

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:56:58PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100]: > > The numbers are easy. The amount of Debian Developers has been > > approximately steady at about 1000 for the past ten years. Over that > > same time, the amount of packa

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:57:13AM +0100]: > > In my opinion, the best release we ever had (that I was a part of, at > > least) was the Etch release process; shortly after Sarge had been > > released, the release mana

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-17 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Charles Plessy [100317 01:52]: > I propose that we reshape the sections and priorities of our archive, so that > it is easy to remove from Testing any RC bug that is not in a core pakcage, > and is old and not tagged RFH. How is that different from the current procedure? > In parallel, I propo

Re: Question for DD candidates: The race against NOTA

2010-03-17 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 16.03.2010 at 22:32:22 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > As per Constitution 5.2.4, the vote should be repeated, as many times > as needed. Lets just assume it was different: The project has voted > not to have a leader anymore. > > What would be different if there was no leader? Where wo