Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Nov 13 2008, Peter Samuelson wrote: > -- [Forward] - > From: Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:01:13 +0100 > - code uploaded into another cpu (a device cpu, not a SMP cpu of some > kind) does not run i

Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-13 Thread Ben Finney
Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm considering formally proposing this GR (option): > > | Firmware is data that is uploaded to hardware components, not > | designed to be run on the host CPU. Often this firmware is already > | required at install time in order to use network or sto

Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-13 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd second the proposal as quoted below. > | Firmware is data that is uploaded to hardware components, not designed to be > | run on the host CPU. Often this firmware is already required at install > time > | in order to use network or storage

Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
-- [Forward] - From: Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:01:13 +0100 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:43:32PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > > [Johannes Wiedersich] > > I would propose to create a new section of the arch

Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-13 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Johannes Wiedersich] > I would propose to create a new section of the archive, called > 'sourceless' or such. Stuff within this archive doesn't have full > sources. It is legally distributable and follows the DFSG with the > only exception of missing sources. On top of the DFSG it is required >

Re: For our own good: splitting the vote. Thoughts?

2008-11-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Nov 13 2008, Robert Millan wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:00:29AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Well, splitting a vote into multiple ballots, with options >> referring to the same outcome, is a horrendously bad idea -- since the >> massive amounts of strategic

Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-13 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 04:20:33PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-11-12 15:29]: > > For example, if you want to install Debian on an NSLU, the only > > difficulty is finding the unofficial D-I images that include > > non-free firmware. And even that can

Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-13 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 03:49:44PM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 03:29:30PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > For example, if you want to install Debian on an NSLU, the only difficulty > > is > > finding the unofficial D-I images that include non-free firmware. And even

Re: For our own good: splitting the vote. Thoughts?

2008-11-13 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:00:29AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > Well, splitting a vote into multiple ballots, with options > referring to the same outcome, is a horrendously bad idea -- since the > massive amounts of strategic voting possibilities will taint the final > resu

Re: For our own good: splitting the vote. Thoughts?

2008-11-13 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 04:17:23PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > I hate complex ballots. They tend to work against the goal of a vote, > which is getting a crystal clear assessment on the opinions of the > Developers. > > This vote is at 5 options already, with 2 more underway. I want to > propose

Re: on firmware (possible proposal)

2008-11-13 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ean Schuessler wrote: > "Johannes Wiedersich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I would propose to create a new section of the archive, called >> 'sourceless' or such. Stuff within this archive doesn't have full >> sources. It is legally distributable