Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:52:36 +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> This I consider silly. Thinking that the shorter voting period might >> have influenced participation somehow skews the vote for the DPL? >> Dow sending the CFV 24 minutes after the hour also skew the votes? Or >> sending

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:58:34 +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> You can express your opinions on this list without any problem, though >> your opinion should not be expressed in an official reminder to vote > > Why not? I hold these opinions about t

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, OK, another draft, now incorporating the last two suggestions. I added a mention of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] location. Now, GR votes have different wording: the full text of the GR and amendments is included if it is short, or a pointer is put in for the vote page otherwise

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 04:59:03PM -0500]: > > Well, I don't think that's really important to the typical user - > > people just want to know about the part they have to send back > > in. Whether you call this "the ballot" or "the part of the ballot you > > have edit in order to

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 13 April 2008 16:25:40 Manoj Srivastava wrote: > NOTE: The vote must be GPG signed (or PGP signed) with your key that is > in the Debian keyring. The voting software (Devotee) accepts mail that > either contains only an unmangled OpenPGP message (RFC 2440 compliant), > or a PGP/MIME mail

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 05:25:40PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > b) move the address to send the ballot to up front, where we mention >it. Good idea, and it can't hurt to repeat it. Maybe also warn against group-replies? I personally think that we should discourage such public voting, but

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:45:55 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Here it is - with some other changes while I was at it. (I also > couldn't find the references to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the CFVs. Should > there be some?) I guess. It seemed pointless before, since you already hav

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:14:06 +0100, Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 04:45:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> If ever I were to even consider basing my actions on your judgement, >> I will take this under advisement. I have never been one for a >> robotic

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 04:45:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > If ever I were to even consider basing my actions on your > judgement, I will take this under advisement. I have never been one > for a robotic secretary. Indeed, every CFV past the first one has some > commentary on

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:12:20 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Well, I don't think that's really important to the typical user - > people just want to know about the part they have to send back > in. Whether you call this "the ballot" or "the part of the ballot you > have edit in ord

Re: vote

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:42:05 +0200, Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Also wondering, since Nico’s replies were signed: Would it have been > possible to redirect his reply to the voting address and thus change > his vote? If done with the right timing, he might not have a chance to > r

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:25:19 +0100, Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > When you send an email with From set to "Debian Project Secretary", > you are supposed to cater to the opinion of the community, which was No, I am not. The opinions of the community have little to do with the

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:58:34 +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You can express your opinions on this list without any problem, though > your opinion should not be expressed in an official reminder to vote Why not? I hold these opinions about the processes I am following as a

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 23:45 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > -- > 2. That which causes joy or happiness. Suggesting to vote for "Choice 2: John Doe 2" ? :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:12:20PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > Can you present a sample ballot for, say, DPL election 2009? It > > might help to see a full ballot and compare the points of difference. > > Will do (in another mail). Here it is - with some other changes while I was at it.

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 02:56:04PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:49:22 +0100, Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > >> > >> The last time we had such a low turn out was in 2001, and then

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:49:22 +0100, Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: >>> The last time we had such a low turn out was in 2001, and then we >>> only had less than one third the number of

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:49:22 +0100, Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: >> >> The last time we had such a low turn out was in 2001, and then we >> only had less than one third the number of developers. Yes, >> shorte

Re: vote

2008-04-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 08.04.2008, 12:39 +0200 schrieb Frank S. Thomas: > On Tuesday 08 April 2008 12:17, Nico Golde wrote: > > > > > > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines > > > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- d81e16a2-03b6-4340-84f2-51de89b8185e > > > > > > [XXX] Choice 1: Steve McInty

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 02:51:59PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > I propose that you make the beginning look like this: > > > HOW TO VOTE > > > First, read the full text of [...variable data...] > > > The ballot is a small text form that is included below. It is cast > > by sending a fi

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:44:09 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Huh. Looking at the ballot: , | ... | Do not erase anything >> between the lines below and do not change the | choice names. > Yes, you see, that's the point - the text just starts talking about > not erasing somet

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:40:01PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > If you think the vote period is too short, then I suppose there > is the option to see if other > people consider it so too, and see if you can redo some of the > constitutional amendment that was passed by acclaim last y

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:46:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:44:12 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > But I see how it would help if the CFV was more verbose about that, > > and less verbose about other things. It goes on and on about the > > technica

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2008

2008-04-13 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:15:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote: > > The last time we had such a low turn out was in 2001, and then > we only had less than one third the number of developers. Yes, > shortening the voting period has been such a *fun* experiment. I think that us