Results for General Resolution: Endorse concept of Debian maintainers

2007-08-04 Thread Debian Project Secretary
Hi, The resolution passes, with 386 votes from 345 developers. pgpPy3V1mTWdv.pgp Description: PGP signature Starting results calculation at Sun Aug 5 00:01:21 2007 Option 1 "Endorse the concept of Debian Maintainers" Option 2 "Further Discussion" In the following table, tally[row x][

Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process

2007-08-04 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On su, 2007-08-05 at 01:07 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 11:54:15AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > GRs do not unite, they divide. They divide the DDs in two: the one > > the losers and the winners. > > Just because your argument doesn't win the day doesn't mean you're

Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process

2007-08-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 11:54:15AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > GRs do not unite, they divide. They divide the DDs in two: the one > the losers and the winners. Just because your argument doesn't win the day doesn't mean you're a loser, or divided off from the rest of the project. Cheers, a

Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process

2007-08-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Pierre Habouzit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070804 13:40]: > Handwaving. If the silent majority wants to oppose an apparent > consensus, they should not be silent in the first place. Voting brings > decisions into the hands of people that did not necessarily followed > discussions, or are unaware of s

Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process

2007-08-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 12:27:05PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 04 Aug 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 10:41:49AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > I don't agree. I think quite the contrary. We often tend to not address > > > issues and let them consume our ene

Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process

2007-08-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 04 Aug 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 10:41:49AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I don't agree. I think quite the contrary. We often tend to not address > > issues and let them consume our energy in endless discussions. I believe > > that having GR is useful to re-

Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process

2007-08-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Pierre Habouzit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070804 11:54]: > GRs do not unite, they divide. They divide the DDs in two: the one > the losers and the winners. And the identity you claim to forge, is just > the identity of the winning camp, not Debian's. Of course, with exceptions like "formal GRs", e.

Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process

2007-08-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 10:41:49AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 04 Aug 2007, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:37:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > Seriously, could we have this change without voting? > > > > Indeed. Reducing our GR rate seems more important tha

Re: Constitutional amendment: reduce the length of DPL election process

2007-08-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 04 Aug 2007, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:37:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Seriously, could we have this change without voting? > > Indeed. Reducing our GR rate seems more important than changing the DPL > election process. I don't agree. I think quite the co