Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal, alternative update

2007-07-09 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi mate > > (Note: If the NM applies for DD status, he can become a DM after FD > > approval) > > Is "an NM process" different from "the NM process"? > > If the last item would require the applicant to apply for NM-ship and > not be rejected from this process, it would help those in the NM process

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal, updated

2007-07-09 Thread AnĂ­bal Monsalve Salazar
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:41:35PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: > Debian Maintainers Proposal > >The Debian Project endorses the concept of "Debian Maintainers" with >limited access, and resolves that: > >1) A new keyring will be created, called the "Debian maintainers keyring". > It will

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal, updated

2007-07-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:41:35PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: > The Debian Project endorses the concept of "Debian Maintainers" with > limited access, and resolves that: [...] So one thing that I wrote about originally [0], that I don't think I've repeated much, is that ultimately I look at this

Re: Limited upload rights for NMs GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:33:20PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > * confirmed that the New Maintainer successfully passed the ID-, T&S- > > and P&P check > > I think this is the wrong time. My opinion of current T&S is that it's > completely

Re: Limited upload rights for NMs GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:33:20PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > * confirmed that the New Maintainer successfully passed the ID-, T&S- > and P&P check I think this is the wrong time. My opinion of current T&S is that it's completely on crack, I mean, okay, if one is going to package a li

Re: Limited upload rights for NMs GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 09 Jul 2007, Nico Golde wrote: > > This feels to me like solving the wrong problem. If the person really is > > ready to become a DD, it would be better to find ways of addressing the > > time lag before that process is complete. If there are meaningful final > > checks, this to an e

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread MJ Ray
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Michelle Konzack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070709 15:27]: > > I am new package maintainer and have build over 280 different > > packages successfuly for my customers since several years. > > Sorry if this sounds harsh, but you're one of the people who I don't

Re: Limited upload rights for NMs GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-09 20:39]: > Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The idea is to grant NMs limited upload rights after they're certified > > "almost DDs", in a stage where they usually just have to wait (quiet > > long) for their AM-report, FD and DAM. >

Re: Limited upload rights for NMs GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-09 20:36]: [...] > Please comment, send patches or second. [...] I do second the proposal. Kind regards Nico -- Nico Golde - http://ngolde.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG: 0x73647CFF For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encr

Re: Limited upload rights for NMs GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The idea is to grant NMs limited upload rights after they're certified > "almost DDs", in a stage where they usually just have to wait (quiet > long) for their AM-report, FD and DAM. This feels to me like solving the wrong problem. If the person real

Limited upload rights for NMs GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Bastian Venthur
Hi, Since I don't agree that we don't need a new class of contributors but very much like the idea to grant some of the proposed DM rights to New Maintainers after a certain point in their NM career, I propose a different solution. The idea is to grant NMs limited upload rights after they're cert

Limited upload rights for NMs GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Bastian Venthur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [Same proposal, this time signed.] Hi, Since I don't agree that we don't need a new class of contributors but very much like the idea to grant some of the proposed DM rights to New Maintainers after a certain point in their NM career, I propose a dif

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal, alternative update

2007-07-09 Thread Martin Schulze
Steffen Joeris wrote: > I took ajs proposal and modified it to fit my understanding of DM. See the > patch below the proposal, together with my comments for more information. > I avoid repeating most of the arguments, which were send several times in > dozens of mails. This is just my proposal an

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal, alternative update

2007-07-09 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi Steve Sorry for the delay, I just arrived at College :( > I see the following weaknesses in your proposal compared with AJ's: > > - Only people who are going through NM qualify. This reduces the set of > maintainers benefitting from it to those who have the time, interest, and > skill to

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* Michelle Konzack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070709 15:27]: > I am new package maintainer and have build over 280 different > packages successfuly for my customers since several years. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but you're one of the people who I don't want to upload to the Debian archive. Any proposa

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-07-09 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Raphael and *, # ATTENTION: I am currently NOT in Strasbourg because# # haveing the last 4 weeks of my military # # service and can not reply in short delays. # #