Re: DPL Debate Volunteers and Format

2007-02-15 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 01:20:06AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > I'd like to reiterate the solicitation for volunteers to help run the > DPL Debate: I need at least two other people who would be willing to > volunteer to help me both in the organization of the debate (selection > of initial questio

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:27:17AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > The right way of dealing with that is to work with the potential > contributor to ensure they understand the issues that're involved so > that their future contributions can be accepted and will be useful. This is a very important se

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 16 février 2007 à 01:27 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit : > (If there's something more than the general comments Frank made, > I'm still not seeing it. TTBOMK, the non-free and experimental builds > aren't at all integrated with the buildd.d.o stuff, and there's been > no particular intere

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns wrote: > I've been thinking for a few days now that people in Debian disagree > too much (hence the comments preceding my responses to Raphael in an > earlier message), so starting now, I'm going to stop replying to mails > by focussing on differences, and start with agreements. Let

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 10:00:25AM +0100, Frank K?ster wrote: > >> > > i think someone running more than one autobuilder for more than _two_ > >> > > years now (okay, not for the officical archive, but i see that as > >> > > nonrelevant here) demonstrats very good that he mets your mentioned > >> >

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Steve Langasek a écrit : > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:16:56PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >>> There are additional problems with running a rogue autobuilder, such as >>> unavailability of build logs, unreproducibility of builds, and unusability >>> of the builds by the security team. Aurelian's bu

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:16:56PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > There are additional problems with running a rogue autobuilder, such as > > unavailability of build logs, unreproducibility of builds, and unusability > > of the builds by the security team. Aurelian's buildds had the additional >

DPL Debate Volunteers and Format

2007-02-15 Thread Don Armstrong
I'd like to reiterate the solicitation for volunteers to help run the DPL Debate: I need at least two other people who would be willing to volunteer to help me both in the organization of the debate (selection of initial questions, format suggestions, etc.) and the actual running of the debate (sel

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:37:27AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: >> On Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 13:13:36 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> > -vote dropped > > And readded apparently. Do we really have to have these conversations > across multiple lists? > >> > > i think someone

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Debian developers aren't trusted

2007-02-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:37:27AM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > On Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 13:13:36 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > -vote dropped And readded apparently. Do we really have to have these conversations across multiple lists? > > > i think someone running more than one autobuilder