Re: Splitting out Choice #1 from vote_004

2006-09-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: > And with my original proposal withdrawn, is it still your opinion > that this resolution warrants a vote of its own? It's not as important anymore, but it does resolve a few of the open "how do we interpret what the DFSG says" questions in regards to so

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-25 Thread Raul Miller
On 9/20/06, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anthony Towns [wrote]: A question that has been raised is whether the organisation can be sufficiently "outside" of Debian when the DPL is intimately involved. I don't have the answer to that - in my opinion it can be, but whether

Re: Splitting out Choice #1 from vote_004

2006-09-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Frans Pop wrote: > On Tuesday 26 September 2006 01:40, Don Armstrong wrote: > > I agree that there are practical implications, and that something > > should be done about them, but I think that they're out of scope for a > > resolution whose purpose is to clarify how DFSG #2 sh

Re: Canonical list of proposal text

2006-09-25 Thread Raul Miller
On 9/21/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:17:18 +0100, Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > 3. The person who calls for a vote states what they believe the > wordings of the resolution and any relevant amendments are, and > consequently what form t

Re: Splitting out Choice #1 from vote_004

2006-09-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 01:40, Don Armstrong wrote: > I agree that there are practical implications, and that something > should be done about them, but I think that they're out of scope for a > resolution whose purpose is to clarify how DFSG #2 should be > interpreted. I stand by my opinion

Re: Splitting out Choice #1 from vote_004

2006-09-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Frans Pop wrote: > I strongly object to separating this proposal out and calling for a > vote without any alternative proposals or amendments, for the > foolowing reasons: > > 1) The proposal on its own adds nothing to the status quo: the SC is > currently widely understood to

Re: Splitting out Choice #1 from vote_004

2006-09-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 25 September 2006 05:11, Don Armstrong wrote: > Baring objection, I plan on calling for a vote with a suggested balot > containing only this option in a few days (no later than 09-27).[1] > [The Secretary, of course, can override this suggested ballot.] I strongly object to separating th

Re: Splitting out Choice #1 from vote_004

2006-09-25 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Don, On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 08:11:58PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, Don Armstrong wrote: > > As far as placing it or not placing it on a separate ballot, it > > would be nice to have it separate, as it deals with clarifying the > > firmware problem before exceptions are g

Re: [Amendement firmware GR] - Best effort / no regression

2006-09-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 10:55:59PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 09:47:22PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > 4 does not seem to account for the fact that removing such firmware may mean > > having to choose between losing support for certain hardware in our > > installer, a

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le lun 25 septembre 2006 09:42, Martin Schulze a écrit : > Martin Schulze wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 07:10:25PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > > I'd say that I'm not more comfortable with Steve McIntyre > > > > > beeing involved and a DPL-assistant (or whatever name his > > > > >

Re: Resolutions concerning dunc-tank

2006-09-25 Thread MJ Ray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First resolution `We disapprove of dunc-tank': > -8<- > BACKGROUND > > 1. Anthony Towns, the current Debian Project Leader, has suggested > funding the Debian Release Managers' living expenses during

Re: Proposal: Recall the Project Leader

2006-09-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Schulze wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 07:10:25PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > > I'd say that I'm not more comfortable with Steve McIntyre beeing > > > > involved and a DPL-assistant (or whatever name his position has) > > > > either, so if Aj stops beeing involved with dunc-tan