On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:50:19PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:07:18PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> >
> > > C. Reaffirms its continued support of users whose hardware (or
> > > software) requires works which are not fr
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:15:14 +1000, Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 10:09:04AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Due to a loop hole in the constitution, any group of 6 Debian
>> developers can delay any general resolution indefinitely by putting
>> up t
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:15:28 -0400, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 09:54:17AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>> > Umh, then I need to ask why the resolution is not clear enough so
>> > that it does not need the preamble to know in which way the
>> > author has in
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 09:54:17AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> > Umh, then I need to ask why the resolution is not clear enough
> > so that it does not need the preamble to know in which way the
> > author has intended its interpretation? As Manoj pointed out
> > already, courts look at the resol
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 10:09:04AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Due to a loop hole in the constitution, any group of 6 Debian
> developers can delay any general resolution indefinitely by putting
> up their own amendment, and every 6 days, making substantiative
> changes in
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since it has been decreed that the secretary has no discretion
> in putting up properly proposed and seconded text, this request is
> now moot.
> We do have an issue now with people seconding extraneous text,
> including signatures
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:07:18PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> > C. Reaffirms its continued support of users whose hardware (or
> > software) requires works which are not freely licensed or whose
> > source is not available by making such wo
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 10:09 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > The project should decide how it wants to handle filibustering,
> > if it feels like doing anything about it, of course. But now, any GR
> > has a veto contingent of only 6 develop
* Andreas Barth:
> perhaps we should, independend of current GRs, consider how to change
> the GR procedure so that it doesn't happen to be as painful as it is
> now.
Perhaps pain is highly subjective in this case. I guess it's less
bizarre if you've been exposed to Robert's Rules of Order. (Bu
Seconded.
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:07:18PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> == BEGIN PROPOSAL =
>
> The Free Software movement is about enabling users to modify the works
> that they use on their computer; about giving users the same
> information that c
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:07:18PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> D. Requests that vendors of hardware, even those whose firmware is
> not loaded by the operating system, provide the prefered form for
> modification so that purchasers of their hardware can
> exercise their freedom t
Hi,
* Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060919 17:57]:
> Due to a loop hole in the constitution, any group of 6 Debian
> developers can delay any general resolution indefinitely by putting
> up their own amendment, and every 6 days, making substantiative
> changes in their amendment
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:07:18PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> Because there appears to be some residual confusion[1][2][3] about
> what I actually proposed and its content, here is the proposal as it
> currently stands. The proposal is only the content between BEGIN
> PROPOSAL and END PROPOSAL.
On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 10:09 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> The project should decide how it wants to handle filibustering,
> if it feels like doing anything about it, of course. But now, any GR
> has a veto contingent of only 6 developers.
How about we see how to solve that when it act
Hi,
Due to a loop hole in the constitution, any group of 6 Debian
developers can delay any general resolution indefinitely by putting
up their own amendment, and every 6 days, making substantiative
changes in their amendment (they can just rotate between a small
number of very differen
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:40:08 +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:27:12PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Proponents of various various amendments to the GR should feel free
>> to send me a couple of paragraphs in HTML markup to
>> introduce/expla
Hi,
I second this proposal:
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> == BEGIN PROPOSAL =
>
> The Free Software movement is about enabling users to modify the works
> that they use on their computer; about giving users the same
> information that copy
* Debian Project Secretaru ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060918 20:56]:
> From: Frederik Schueler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:06:54 +0200
>
> Good signature from EA7ED2A341954920 Frederik Schüler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> ,
> | 1. We affirm that ou
I second this proposal.
> == BEGIN PROPOSAL =
>
> The Free Software movement is about enabling users to modify the works
> that they use on their computer; about giving users the same
> information that copyright holders and upstream developers have. As
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:46:50 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> > But just like the groundwork and foundation of a structure, the
>> > non-actionable content of a resolutions can contain information on
>> > how the actionable content is
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:46:50 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > But just like the groundwork and foundation of a structure, the
> > > non-actionable content of a resolutions can contain information on
> > > how the actionable content
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Don Armstrong schrieb am Montag, den 18. September 2006:
I also second this clarified proposal.
> == BEGIN PROPOSAL =
>
> The Free Software movement is about enabling users to modify the works
> that they
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I second this proposal.
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Because there appears to be some residual confusion[1][2][3] about
> what I actually proposed and its content, here is the proposal as it
> currently stands. The proposal is only th
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:46:50 -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > But just like the groundwork and foundation of a structure, the
> > non-actionable content of a resolutions can contain information on
> > how the actionable content is to be interpreted. As such, it is part
> > of t
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