Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41:34AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > -- > Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that the process > defined in GR Proposal 2 will be applied *only* for the future content > of debian-private mailing list. > -- So obviously as proposer of the origianl GR, I'm not

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 04:09:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that: So, this has 7 sponsors now, namely: Aníbal Monsalve Salazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAI

Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Ruoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just to formalize what I've already said... > > I think this should be considered for future -private content even if > the GR Proposal 2 (which I second) is rejected, considering one argument > against it is

Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread John Lightsey
On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 12:36 -0600, Greg Norris wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41:34AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > Just to formalize what I've already said... > > > > I think this should be considered for future -private content even if > > the GR Proposal 2 (which I second) is rejected, co

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: > Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that: > > --- > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will > seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance > made to the Debian Private Mailing List

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 04:09:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that: > > --- > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will > seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance > made to the Debian

Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Greg Norris
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41:34AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > Just to formalize what I've already said... > > I think this should be considered for future -private content even if > the GR Proposal 2 (which I second) is rejected, considering one argument > against it is that people didn't expect

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Joey Hess
Daniel Ruoso wrote: > I change my position as it seems that's needed to take it to the vote. > I consider the whole proposal more important than the differences > between them Me too, but I suspect Manoj will be happy with Aj's new proposal, so I will limit myself to seconding it. -- see shy jo

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
Monroe Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think we have any moral right and barely any legal standing > to publish messages which were made to a private mailing list under > the current regime. The veto option doesn't cover this if we have > lost contact with the author(s). Please add: Any

GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Just to formalize what I've already said... I think this should be considered for future -private content even if the GR Proposal 2 (which I second) is rejected, considering one argument against it is that people didn't expect to have it's private posts revealed. -- Thus, I propose that the Debi

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sex, 2005-11-18 às 16:09 +1000, Anthony Towns escreveu: > Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that: > > --- > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will > seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance > made to the Debian Pri

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sex, 2005-11-18 às 16:09 +1000, Anthony Towns escreveu: > Seconds so far: >Don Armstrong (original or Manoj's changes) >Joey Hess (original only, no comment on Manoj's changes) >Wouter Verhelst (Manoj's changes, no comment on original) >Bas Zoetekouw (Manoj's changes, no comment

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread MJ Ray
It seems my previous post got lost or ignored. Retrying: Anthony Towns wrote: > * The team will automatically declassify and publish posts made to >that list that are three or more years old, with the following >exceptions: I don't think we have any moral right and barely any legal stand

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op vr, 18-11-2005 te 16:09 +1000, schreef Anthony Towns: > Okay, incorporating Manoj's proposed changes, and some other ideas: [...] > --- > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will > seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance > made to

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anthony Towns writes: > Okay, incorporating Manoj's proposed changes, and some other ideas: > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:08:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> One of the issues Debian often stands for is transparency and openness >> -- indeed, the

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 04:09:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >Okay, incorporating Manoj's proposed changes, and some other ideas: > >On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:08:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >>One of the issues Debian often stands for is transparency and openness >>-- indeed, the openness of