Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:34:20PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 06:52:37PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Any textual basis for that claim? > > Constitution, 4.1.5.3 "A Foundation Document requires a 3:1 majority > > for its supersession." On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 04:59

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:34:20PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 06:52:37PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Any textual basis for that claim? > Constitution, 4.1.5.3 "A Foundation Document requires a 3:1 majority > for its supersession." Yes, and? We could make the logo requ

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Graham Wilson
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 08:19:10PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040524 20:10]: > > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:12:52AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040523 23:55]: > > > > I do not think we can over rid

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Andreas Barth
* Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040524 20:10]: > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:12:52AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040523 23:55]: > > > I do not think we can over ride the constitution, and other > > > foundation documents, with a simple posi

Re: Ready to vote on 2004-003?

2004-05-24 Thread Andreas Barth
* Anthony Towns ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040524 19:55]: > It's interesting, though, that not only did no one else propose a GR to > support that policy at the time, but you didn't propose a GR to set the > policy you believed was correct either -- even though you opposed the > decision, apparently thou

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Graham Wilson
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:09:17AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > By program I mean everything that we formerly required to be distributed > > under the DFSG, > > Huh? That's not a definition, especially since all this debate is about > whether our pre

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Graham Wilson
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:12:52AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040523 23:55]: > > I do not think we can over ride the constitution, and other > > foundation documents, with a simple position statement; so I would > > not think a simple positio

Re: Ready to vote on 2004-003?

2004-05-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 03:57:19PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > I believe Anthony Towns has said that he now believes his earlier release > > > policy to be in error. > > No. It was an error to try to set the release policy myself, rather than > > tangling it up in the bureaucracy of getting

Re: DFSG#10

2004-05-24 Thread Tore Anderson
* Tore Anderson > I'm reluctant to vote for a resolution that acknowledges that the > changes made to the social contract were anything but editorial. * Manoj Srivastava > As an author of one of these proposals, and as an individual > who still holds that the changes made in GR 2004

Re: Ready to vote on 2004-003?

2004-05-24 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 03:57:19PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Told you so (way back when you first introduced the policy of > deliberately including non-free stuff in sarge). You reap what you > sow. That's not a fair statement. In this context, you had at least as much to do with the "sowin

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 06:52:37PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Any textual basis for that claim? Constitution, 4.1.5.3 "A Foundation Document requires a 3:1 majority for its supersession." -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-05-24 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 03:03:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 03:55:48PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > The policy decision's at http://people.debian.org/~ajt/sarge_rc_policy.txt: > > > ] Code in main and contrib must meet the DFSG, both in .debs and > > > ] in the sourc

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 05:44:06PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 12:33:58AM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: > > Short and sweet and lacks political hubbub. Just decide that we > > shouldn't have to change release policy 6 months after the release > > was supposed to happen. Why soul

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:09:17AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > > By program I mean everything that we formerly required to be distributed > > under the DFSG, > Huh? That's not a definition, especially since all this debate is about > whether our previous formal requirements where different to our

Re: Ready to vote on 2004-003?

2004-05-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 05:13:38PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 11:16:36PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > I believe Anthony Towns has said that he now believes his earlier release > > policy to be in error. > > No. It was an error to try to set the release policy myself, ra

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Frank Küster
Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 04:35:58PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: >> On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 08:27:02PM -0500, Graham Wilson wrote: >> > How about: >> > >> > We, Debian developers, issue the statement: >> > >> > "On the question on what software shou

Re: Proposal - Statement that Sarge will follow Woody requirement for main.

2004-05-24 Thread Andreas Barth
* Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040523 23:55]: > On Sat, 22 May 2004 01:41:13 +0200, Bill Allombert > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > > > 4.1. Powers > > >Together, the Developers may: > > 5. Issue nontechnical