Re: Jesse install images?

2013-12-13 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Jon N wrote: > > I have a new computer that needs (AFAIK) the kernel version 3.10 or > better to support my ethernet (Qualcomm Atheros AR8171). I was hoping > I could do this with a small download, like the net insttall ISO, but > so far I haven't been able to find

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-13 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 23:37:31 +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: > >> I've browsed through the hot debates here >> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem >> >> and the LWN article https://lwn.net/Articles/572805/ >> >> But there's no mention about when t

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-13 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: >> >> Right. Because normal users can't change the system time. > > Sorry, wrong. With 'folk ALL=(ALL) ALL', user folk can run as root ANY > program including 'date -s'. Or at least 'sudo bash', and then live > happy w

Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM, PaulNM wrote: > On 12/13/2013 10:03 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >>> On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 02:25 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>>> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 19:08 +, Tom H wrote: >

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-15 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 16:14 +0000, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Brian wrote: >>> On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 23:37:31 +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: >>> >>>> I've browsed through the h

Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-15 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 11:25 -0500, PaulNM wrote: >>> >>> The "single" kernel cmdline option would never launch GDM. >> >> I believe that was his point, and the reason for the smiley ;). >> Most would say preventing something from happening is

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-15 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 13 Dec 2013 at 11:38:31 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Jo, 12 dec 13, 20:00:44, Brian wrote: >>> >>> Debian doesn't have deadlines. You'll have to wait. Think in terms of >>> a couple of years for a decision to be made. >> >> I don't think

Re: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Tom H writes: >> In the corporate environments where I work, we are about 70 sysadmins >> in my location and about half as much in another. We all sudo to root >> on our more or less 11,000 systems. So by your

Re: gdm3 issue

2013-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 16:49 +0000, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM, PaulNM wrote: >>> On 12/13/2013 10:03 AM, Tom H wrote: >>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf >>>>

Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations

2013-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > I have decided to buy a 64-bit system for myself for Christmas. But before I > go out there and buy something, I thought I would solicit some advice. I want > a 64-bit system (amd64) on which I plan to install Debian. I will use it > prima

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> On 14/dic/2013, at 09:09, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: >> 2013-12-13 17:22 keltezéssel, John Hasler írta: ...must have successfully authenticated to execute a sudo command once >>> >>> Within the last 15 minutes. >> >> ... from

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > The most notable source of problems are /etc/init.d/foo where foo > doesn't have current LSB headers. Those files cause problems when > upgrading because the new 'insserv' program used in Wheezy to set up > parallel booting can't work withou

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Brian wrote: > On Sun 15 Dec 2013 at 14:03:36 +0000, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Brian wrote: >>> On Fri 13 Dec 2013 at 11:38:31 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>>> On Jo, 12 dec 13, 20:00:44, Brian wrote: >&

Re: Wasted space in hard disk partitioning (was Soliciting Hardware Recommendations)

2013-12-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:13:16 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> >> Cool. Make sure you partition the SSD so that your first, and all, >> partitions start on a 4KB boundary. Many guides are available for your >> favorite partitioning tool. Linux

Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations

2013-12-20 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:18:14 -0500 (EST), Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: >>> >>> I'd like it to have a usable CSM, so I can continue to run my favorite boot >

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-20 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >>> >>> The most notable source of problems are /etc/init.d/foo where foo >>> doesn't have current LSB headers. Those files cause problems when >>> upgradin

Re: Backports pinning

2013-12-20 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > with different settings backports always got a lower priority than > jessie/testing. > > Is it possible to give backports a higher priority than jessie/testing? > > Do I need to add wheezy/updates and wheezy-updates to the preferences > too,

Re: Backports pinning

2013-12-20 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: >> >> with different settings backports always got a lower priority than >> jessie/testing. >> >> Is it possible to give backports a higher priority than je

Re: Backports pinning

2013-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 22:24 +0000, Tom H wrote: >> >> apt-cache policy > > Thank you, that's a useful command :). You're welcome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: Changing Hostname?

2013-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Jon N wrote: > > sysctl kernel hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME. It's "sysctl -w kernel.hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http:/

Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > I am having trouble copying text from an xterm window into another > application, > such as iceweasel, and vice versa. When I was using GNOME, this worked fine > between gnome-terminal and other applications. But I'm using XFCE now, and >

Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-23 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > $ echo "XTerm*SelectToClipboard:true" >> ~/.Xresources > $ xrdb -m ~/.Xresources Much simpler than what I'd posted earlier. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-23 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Brian wrote: > On Sat 21 Dec 2013 at 21:09:56 +0000, Tom H wrote: >> >> 2) OT: I don't use XFCE but isn't xfce4-terminal its default terminal? > > It is if task-xfce-desktop is installed (and recommends enabled): > > Reco

Re: [SOLVED] Copy and Paste between xterm and other windows in a Debian XFCE environment

2013-12-23 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > I couldn't find any documented options in xorg.conf for emulating a > 3-button mouse with a 2-button mouse either. I remember that option > from older versions of the X server. These days, input devices, > such as keyboards and mice, are

Re: Grub2 menu editing

2013-12-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Weaver wrote: > On Wed, December 25, 2013 12:14 pm, Gary Roach wrote: >> >> Would someone tell me how to edit the grub2 menu. I have over 10 items >> showing including versions of the OS that I don't even use anymore. >> Further, the items are out of order and I ha

Re: Debian gateway problem

2013-12-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:27 AM, mett wrote: > > I'm using a debian box as a router and multiserver between my LAN and > the internet. > > Everything was working fine till yesterday when I put the box down for > upgrading memory, for a few hours. > > Right now, the external interface of the gatewa

Re: How do I solve pinning issues - Was: jwm

2013-12-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:37:10 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> To compile jwmtools it became a dependency hell for the dev packages. Is >> there a way to automatically upgarde/downgrade packages to solve this >> issue? > > Upgrade - yes. 'apt-get di

Re: How do I solve pinning issues - Was: jwm

2013-12-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:12:55 + > Tom H wrote: >> >> "apt-get dist-upgrade" will not upgrade stable to testing if the >> pinning settings don't allow it, which AFAIR should be the case with >> Ralph&#

Re: How do I solve pinning issues - Was: jwm

2013-12-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-27 at 10:12 +0000, Tom H wrote: >> (One of the steps of the release notes always is to disable pinning >> when upgrading.) > IIUC forcing a downgrade doesn't work? I don't follow why you

Re: How do I solve pinning issues - Was: jwm

2013-12-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-27 at 14:25 +0400, Reco wrote: >> >> chroot > > :) > > I did not think about this possibility, but I guess I wait, reboot later > and continue then. If you're booted into Arch, you can use systemd-nspawn and let it set up the

Re: Can't set hostname through preseed.cfg in Weezy

2013-12-28 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Todd Maurice wrote: > 1. Software deselection > What is the correct command for no installed packages (bare CLI)? > > tasksel tasksel/first multiselect none > -or- > tasksel tasksel/first multiselect "" > -or- > tasksel tasksel/first multiselect I use 'tasksel

Re: Upgraded apache 2.2 -> 2.4 and cannot get passwords to work

2013-12-28 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 29/12/13 03:52, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: >> On 12/28/2013 11:09 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >>> >>> My modest-sized web server was recently upgraded. There were problems >>> with access control, fairly well documented and fairly easily fixed.

Re: Disable ipv6.......

2014-01-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: >>> >>> # rmmod ipv6 >>> >>> libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:1802 >>> kmod_module_get_holders: could not open '/sys/module/ipv6/holders': No >>> such file or directory Error: Module ipv6 is in use >> >> So I am certain now that I don'

Re: Disable ipv6.......

2014-01-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 03/01/14 04:55, Tom H wrote: >> >> When ipv6 is compiled as a module, you can disable it with modprobe or >> sysctl. >> >> When ipv6 is compiled in-kernel, you can disable it in two ways. >> >

Re: HELP want to cancel digest portion of subscription debian-user-digest

2014-01-19 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM, k wrote: > > want to stay on list but not the digest. is it possible or should I > unsubscribe first. First you insult everyone (almost understandably given the nonsensical threads of late) then you ask for help. Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: apt conf

2014-01-24 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM, james gray wrote: > > #apt.conf > > the quandary: How to express Intel 64 bit processor for the Architecture and > Architectures plural for the apt.conf file in Debian software speak. > > doing www-network search is just as dizzy. > > Architecture > > Architecture

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-01-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: >> >> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach >> would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of >> "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running >> >> # apt-

Re: Confused about dist-upgrade

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 12:52:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: >>> On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: >>>> >>>> At any rate, to move from, say,

Re: Help with command - cp

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > BTW, with GNU ls, -r is the same as -R, but doesn't require pressing > :) What do you mean by "GNU ls"? The ls provided by coreutils? If it is, then "-r" mean "reverse the sort order" and "-R" means "recurse through subdirectories".

Re: Poll: Which Init-System should Debian use in the future?

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:36:07 + (GMT) > Holger Vogt wrote: >> >> http://pollator.com/polls/which-init-system-should-debian-use-in-the-future/votes/new > > I didn't vote because openrc is not on list. openrc replaces sysv-rc and inss

Re: grub efi does not find windows

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:47 AM, wrote: > Le 28.01.2014 11:41, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : > > Sorry for incomplete message. Here is the full message: > > At my job, I have a computer on which I can choose the OS so, I installed my > lovely debian there (with "some" problems to make i

Re: Disable ipv6?

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Is there an easy way to do this? > > I don't use it, I don't understand it (yet), so I don't want to use it until > I do understand it. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/01/msg00109.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: grub efi does not find windows

2014-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 04:34:23PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 04:16 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:47:33AM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org >>> wrote: Thanks in advance for an

Re: grub efi does not find windows

2014-02-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > Le 02.02.2014 21:46, Tom H a écrit : >> Have you tried to switch to "bootmgfw.efi" through your firmware? > > Which firmware? Pressing the appropriate F-key at boot; or, if you have a recent version of grub, typing "fw

Re: grub efi does not find windows

2014-02-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:28 AM, wrote: > Le 02.02.2014 23:27, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : >> Le 02.02.2014 21:46, Tom H a écrit : >>> >>> Have you checked that "/boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi" >>> exists? (It might be "B

Re: grub efi does not find windows

2014-02-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:56 AM, wrote: > Le 05.02.2014 13:53, Tom H a écrit : >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:28 AM, wrote: >>> Le 02.02.2014 23:27, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : >>>> Le 02.02.2014 21:46, Tom H a écrit : >> Regarding the partit

Re: grub efi does not find windows

2014-02-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:55 PM, wrote: > Le 06.02.2014 22:09, Tom H a écrit : >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:56 AM, wrote: >>> Le 05.02.2014 13:53, Tom H a écrit : >>>> >>>> # gdisk /dev/sda >>>> ... >>>> Command (? for help): i

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 08 February 2014 09:40:43 Chris Bannister wrote: >> >> AFAIUI, if the package has a different name, as newer releases of >> kernels do, then APT won't consider it an update, it is just >> another package. > > aptitude has just upgrade

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2014-02-08 at 10:02 +, Joe wrote: >> >> The risk is about having that happen without noticing. Generally, I >> keep an eye on what sid is updating, but even this long after a >> release, it's still tens of megabytes a day. I don't c

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-08 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 08 February 2014 12:29:30 Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Lisi Reisz > wrote: >>> On Saturday 08 February 2014 09:40:43 Chris Bannister wrote: >>>> >>>> AFAIUI, if the pa

Re: Updating not working as expected

2014-02-09 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM, darkestkhan wrote: > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jon N wrote: >> >> deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free >> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates non-free contrib main >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie m

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-11 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Anubhav Yadav wrote: > > Okay I figured out how to make more partitions on LVM, just want to > make sure if the bootable flag on the LVM should be ON or OFF If you're using grub (which you must be if "/boot" is an LV or part of an LV), you don't need that flag.

Re: FW: [CTTE #727708] Default init system for Debian

2014-02-11 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Let the flames begin... Please no! The -devel@ and -ctte@ lists already have some, most likely non-Debian-using crazies, posting there so the d-u members who want to "discuss" this should feel free to join the delirium there and preserve

Re: FW: [CTTE #727708] Default init system for Debian

2014-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > I tried systemd - booted really fast, but it didn't honor any console > font settings I had. I groaned and reverted back realising, after seeing > quite a bit of discussion, that there was another setup to learn! In > this case the learn

Re: systemd: some questions

2014-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Hans wrote: > 1. Must I install systemd-sysv additionally to systemd? No. Installing systemd-sysv will replace sysvinit's "/sbin/init" by a symlink to "/lib/systemd/systemd". > 2. Must I remove the essential package sysvinit? No. In jessie, sysvinit just pro

Re: systemd: some questions

2014-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 12 feb 14, 21:28:19, Hans wrote: >> >> 3. Is the entry in ther commandline of grub init=7lib/systemd/systemd needed? >> (My system hangs, when this is used) > > According to /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian this should be > > init

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 13/02/14 19:12, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> let's assume that I have to execute a script after S10checkfs/ >> S11mountall and before S13networking. > > My experience with systemd is limited, but so far (Wheezy) everything > "just worked

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > let's assume that I have to execute a script after S10checkfs/ > S11mountall and before S13networking. > > Do I find a clear, reliable set of instructions to achieve this goal? > > At this time my fear is that systemd turns out as a ver

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Tom H writes: >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >>> >>> let's assume that I have to execute a script after S10checkfs/ >>> S11mountall and before S13networking. &

Re: [SOLVED] Re: systemd: some questions

2014-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 06:57:36PM +0100, Hans wrote: >> Am Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2014, 16:05:47 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: >>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 03:16:12PM +0100, Hans wrote: Maybe I missed something? Or is systemd still not

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Ralf Mardorf writes: >> On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 06:59 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> >>> I still cringe when I think of the first time I replaced ethernet card >>> in a server and udev changed the name > > I had to patch the udev conf in

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:42:54 +0100 > "Gian Uberto Lauri" wrote: >> Brian writes: >>> On Fri 14 Feb 2014 at 14:11:30 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: Ralf Mardorf writes: > During setting up Arch Linux with systemd the device name switch

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Reco wrote: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:49:03 -0500 > Tom H wrote: >> It has nothing to do with Red Hat's ifcfg network scripts or with >> network Manager. > > Apparently that's why it was introduced in Fedora before anybod

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >> On 14/feb/2014, at 19:30, Tom H wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: >>> Ralf Mardorf writes: >>>>> On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 06:59 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: >

Re: Make aptitude's limit function list installed packages from testing

2014-02-17 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Peter Schott wrote: > > What is the correct filter to: > - list all installed packages coming from testing release; > - while *not* listing installed packages from other releases (e.g. stable) > for which an alternative version from testing is available? aptitude

Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-17 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Joey Hess wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> Adding this to the kernel's cmcline is one of the simplest changes >> when upgrading from wheezy to jessie whether you have one or many >> servers. > > Any existing Debian system with

Re: On what is helpful and what is not [was: Re: Wifi]

2014-03-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:10:11PM +1100, Charlie Schroeder wrote: >> >> Life isn't about second guessing if you write or speak to someone if >> they will take offence surely? Isn't it so that you say your piece and >> people can take it o

Re: Best and most popular distros for the enterprise desktop

2011-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:46 AM, wrote: > The problem with Ubuntu is it's the half-baked answer to a question that > nobody was > asking in the first place... Given its success, it must be fulfilling a need/demand! > So they come up with the system of releasing LTS's about every two years, a

Re: IPV6 DNS query

2011-03-02 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:18 PM, T o n g wrote: > > If I knew how to do IPV6 DNS query, I might have prevented the problem. > So, how to do IPV6 DNS query? dig maroon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listma

Re: Revert to lenny's grub

2011-03-02 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > The way to do that is to first remove grub-pc and it will cleanup grub for > you, remember not to reboot yet ;-), then make sure you have a > /etc/boot/grub folder, now install grub-legacy, next run 'grub-update > /dev/sdax' (x being the par

Re: Revert to lenny's grub

2011-03-02 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:39 AM, George wrote: > > After upgrading to squeeze the new grub was chainloading through the > old one. It was working fine, so I elected to run > upgrade-from-grub-legacy. After this grub was failing with "Error 15", > not even giving me the option to press a key to res

Re: IPV6 DNS query

2011-03-02 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:47 PM, elbbit wrote: > On 03/03/11 03:18, T o n g wrote: >> >> So, how to do IPV6 DNS query? > > host -6 "host -6" (and "dig -6") use ipv6 to make the query but don't run an ipv6 query (unless they do an query by default along the a query, but not sure about this).

Re: IPV6 DNS query

2011-03-03 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2011 02 Mar 23:40 -0600, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:47 PM, elbbit wrote: >> > On 03/03/11 03:18, T o n g wrote: >> >> >> >> So, how to do IPV6 DNS query? >> > >> &

Re: NFS user id

2011-03-06 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:38 PM, T o n g wrote: > > My /export NFS share is shared with option "rw,no_root_squash,async", > however, on the client side, files from both the root and me are mapped > as uid/gid of 4294967294/4294967294. > > Both the root id and my id are the same on both client serve

Re: Revert to lenny's grub

2011-03-06 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:41 AM, George wrote: > > Something unfortunate happened: I removed grub-pc and installed > grub-legacy, but my computer still boots using grub 1.97! It seems to > work fine now, but I don't like the fact that grub and grub-pc show up > as "not installed" in aptitude, grub-

Re: repository 'debports' help needed

2011-03-06 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Alexander Batischev wrote: > On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 05:02:34PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: >> >> Long ago, well before Squeeze became stable, I supmitted a bug report >> on a package in Squeeze/testing. The fix didn't make it into the >> released version, but a few

Re: unable to install nfs-kernel-server

2011-03-09 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 09/03/11 17:45, Liam Cassidey wrote: >> >> I've removed all entries from /etc/exports, have portmap and nfs-common >> running, the firewall down, have an empty /etc/hosts.deny and a single >> entry in hosts.allow (taken from the portmap ma

Re: unable to install nfs-kernel-server

2011-03-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Brian wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Scott Ferguson >> wrote: >>> On 09/03/11 17:45, Liam Cassidey wrote: >>>> >>>> I've removed all entries from /etc/e

Re: unable to install nfs-kernel-server

2011-03-11 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Liam Cassidey wrote: > > server:~# dpkg -l portmap nfs-common nfs-kernel-server > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > | > Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend > |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=ba

Re: firewall: iptables vs ufw/gufw

2011-03-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 11 mar 11, 14:56:42, Michael Friendly wrote: >> >> - Do I have to install/enable the rules from iptables for ssh, >> samba, etc within ufw? > > First you need to find out exactly how the iptables rules are loaded. > Could be via /etc/

Re: unable to install nfs-kernel-server

2011-03-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Liam Cassidey wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> If "apt-get -f install" doesn't install and configure it fully, >> "apt-get install --reinstall nfs-kernel-server" should. > > T

Re: unable to install nfs-kernel-server

2011-03-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Liam Cassidey wrote: > > Some more debugging... > > I've narrowed down the error to the rpc.nfsd binary: > > server:~# rpc.nfsd -d > rpc.nfsd: knfsd is currently down > rpc.nfsd: Writing version string to kernel: +4.1 +2 +3 +4 > rpc.nfsd: Setting version failed: er

Re: unable to install nfs-kernel-server

2011-03-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Liam Cassidey wrote: > > ii  portmap                       6.0.0-2                       RPC port > mapper Remembered the above when I sent my last post and thought that I might have gone down an incorrect path. I've just tried to install pcbind and it conflicts

Re: [help-a-newb] adduser okay? (problem with authenticating with gui users-groups manager)

2011-03-20 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Rob Owens wrote: > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 10:19:45PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> Speaking of which, are the command line user/group management tools >> (adduser, etc.) going to leave something undone if I use them instead? >> Or, if I use vipw and hand-copy the

Re: [help-a-newb] Why nano (or was it pico) instead of vi for visudo? (was question about adduser)

2011-03-20 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Joel Rees wrote: It's nano and the reason that nano's called by visudo (paradoxically) is that visudo calls "/usr/bin/editor" and the alternatives system maps it to "/usr/bin/nano". You can run visudo with "EDITOR=vi visudo" if you just want vi in this instance.

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-21 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Geronimo wrote: > > And yes of cause - I use LABEL and UUID in fstab for years ;) > > If you read my writing carefully, you'll notice that I wrote, that grub has > problems with changing drive order. > > The point is, in grub.cfg each partition is mentioned by (hd

Re: unable to install nfs-kernel-server

2011-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 16, 2011 at 0:11 AM, Liam Cassidey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Liam Cassidey >> wrote: >>> >>> ii portmap 6.0.0-2 RPC port >>> map

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >> Now, moving between 6.0.0 and 6.0.1 shouldn't have been a problem, but I >> suspect you actually would have had issues rebooting your 6.0.0 system even >> without the 6.0.1 updates, since you didn't have your fs

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: >> >> Too bad, now we can't investigate what was wrong. Just for the archives, >> here's an excerpt from a working grub.cfg from a fresh squeeze install: > > Ok, I attached a bunch of info files from my current grub2 setup, w

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> - Does grub-probe on squeeze and maverick return the same values? > > Can you please verify the script checkSystem.sh, that I got u right? > Especially the ubuntu / chainload part? > > Should I

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> -  Do the grub.cfg entries for squeeze in squeeze and maverick match >> for the insmods, the grub root, and the system root? > > I attached an archive with diffs of complete grub.cfg and just the m

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> At what point does booting from squeeze's grub does the boot process >> fail? And what's the error (if any)? > > Grub "fails" after writing "Grub" black on white, before

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Mark wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Jochen Schulz wrote: >> Geronimo: >> > Jochen Schulz wrote: >> >> >> >> AFAICS, we can rule out the kernel as the cuplrit completely, as grub >> >> doesn't even get that far. >> > >> > VETO - after reboot, you might

Re: Squeeze installer and partition alignment

2011-03-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > > Does anyone know if the guided partitioning in Squeeze aligns > partitions, and if so to what boundaries? A quick scan of the archives > doesn't turn up anything conclusive. Unless I'm imagining things, there was a recent thread about thi

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-24 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Mark wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> With grub2, if you want to troubleshoot update-grub and the resulting >> "/boot/grub/grub.cfg", you have to look at "/etc/default/grub", >> "/e

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Geronimo wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> I don't have 05_debian_theme on my boxes (deleted!) but looking >> quickly at 10_linux, the first "set root..." comes from a grub-probe >> of the directory corresponding to $GRUB_THEM

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Brian wrote: > On Wed 23 Mar 2011 at 13:36:30 -0700, Mark wrote: > >> Thanks Tom.  Have you or anyone else been able to change the text displayed >> on the GRUB2 boot menu _without_ editing the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file? >> Maybe the label/text is stored somewhere a

Re: [SOLVED] Re: How to change the style and background of the Squeeze login screen?

2011-03-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > True.  But how to know that?  I'd need to do a detailed study of the > ramified dependencies of gdm and gdm3.  All I really wanted was to replace > gdm3 with gdm.  Aptitude and apt are supposed to be there to keep me from > having to understa

Re: labeling swap partitions, a question

2011-03-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I'm looking into using partition labels on my wheezy boxes. In the course > of doing this, I notice that one can uses a partition label to specify > which partition is to be used for swap in the swapon command and one can > specify a label

Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

2011-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Geronimo wrote: > > Seems like 6.0.0 disk images have been removed from mirrors too. > As I normally use netinst-CDs only, I can't do that tests. Sorry. http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian-cd/ still has 6.0.0 images; for the time being. -- To UNS

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