Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Anyone know why I get this: > > $ dpkg-query --list vim-athena > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend > |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: upper

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 09:33:27PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> >> Anyone know why I get this: >> >> $ dpkg-query --list vim-athena >> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold >> | >> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-ins

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 9/2/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> >> Anyone know why I get this: >> >> $ dpkg-query --list vim-athena >> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold >> | >> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend >> |/

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 9/2/13, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> >>> Anyone know why I get this: >>> >>> $ dpkg-query --list vim-athena >>> Desired=Unknown/In

Re: Setting up apt when have mixture of testing, sid and experimental

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Tom H writes: >> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Csanyi Pal wrote: >> >> Have you run "apt-get update" and {,dist-}upgraded? >> >> Are you using pinning? Are the liborc-* packages pinned to testing

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2013-09-02, Tom H wrote: >> >> AFAICT, the "un" output of "-l" for vim-athena is because it's listed >> in the "Recommends" field of vim-common, so it's recognized as a >> pa

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 9/3/13, Curt wrote: >> On 2013-09-02, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> AFAICT, the "un" output of "-l" for vim-athena is because it's listed >>> in the "Recommends" field o

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2013-09-02, Tom H wrote: >> >> Then vim-dbg and chromium-browser-dbg should also get "un...". > > Where or how do you get "no package description" for those packages? > What command are you using? d

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2013-09-02, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> >> I actually thought the same for a bit, but apt-cache show vim-athena >> seems to show description just fine. > > Well, I'm not getting the same output as you for the same packages, and > it's not the packag

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2013-09-02, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> Where or how do you get "no package description" for those packages? >>> What command are you using? >> >> dpkg -l > > curty@einstein:~$ dpkg -l vim-

Re: dpkg-query - package "un"packed, no version ???

2013-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2013-09-02, Tom H wrote: >>> >> Does "apt-cache show vim-common" list vim-athena on the "Recommends:" line? >> > Yes it does. It also shows vim-gnome. So I only see one pattern here, > although

Re: ip tuntap del

2013-09-06 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Anyone know why ip tuntap del requires the "mode"? > > # ifconfig tapz > tapz: error fetching interface information: Device not found > # ip tuntap add mode tap tapz > # ifconfig tapz > tapz Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 06:b8:f7:41:bf:

Re: Re: tri-boot debian, debian-without-dm, and windows with newer debian using partitions from older debian?

2013-09-06 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 03:55:51PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: > > This was already mentioned. The answer is ctrl+alt+f1 through > ctrl+alt+f6 by default. Let me clarify. Unlike in some other > distributions (slackware comes to mind), there i

Re: linux's make oldconfig: Save in addition to [N/m/y/?], and ctrl-[C/\] to abort

2013-09-07 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Regid Ichira wrote: > > I find it useful to have the kernel configuration automatically > pointing out only the NEW kernel configuration options. Quite often, > the kernel's > > $ make oldconfig > > takes a long time. In particular, when I am trying to find ou

Re: avoid starting a program during reboot

2013-09-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:16 AM, lina wrote: > > I do not want to start some program, such as apache server, during reboot, > > shall I simply remove it from /etc/init.d/ ? > > haha ... is it a bit brutal? or lack elegance? "update-rc.d disable" will do this properly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: nm eth0 connection

2013-09-11 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote: > > Running updated wheezy on a thinkpad T420i w/ xfce DE. > > With great embarrassment, after stoutly defending nm, eth0 no longer > connects. This only happens when I run wheezy. The connection is fine > when I run the other distros on the hd

Re: linux's make oldconfig: Save in addition to [N/m/y/?], and ctrl-[C/\] to abort

2013-09-11 Thread Tom H
ections. > > Do you mean the yes pipe that Tom H was > referring to ealier in this thread? But you can not get a thoughtful > config file by that manner. I mean, I don't want a kernel with lots > of features I don't need. And I am trying to both config the kernel > AND lea

Re: nm eth0 connection

2013-09-11 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 04:48:03PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote: >>> >>> Running updated wheezy on a thinkpad T420i w/ xfce DE. >>> >>> With great embarrassment, after stoutly defendin

Re: nm eth0 connection(2)

2013-09-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 07:47:10AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote: >>> >>> Running updated wheezy on a thinkpad T420i w/ xfce DE. >>> >>> With gr

Re: nm eth0 connection

2013-09-12 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:15:35AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 04:48:03P

Re: nm eth0 connection

2013-09-12 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 08:15:35AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 04:48:03PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 10,

Re: vanilla kernel + firmware

2013-09-12 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:04 AM, laurent debian wrote: > > Sorry stan but this is ... not helping. > Maybe I should rephrase my question. > Is there any chance that the build I perform can [Experience Kernel oops due > to the ] lack [of] some firmwares ? > Le 12/09/2013 03:00, Stan Hoeppner a éc

Re: How to eliminate these 'Script ETH1START is broken'

2013-09-13 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:50 PM, John W. Foster wrote: > > How to get rid of these messages; > > System is working fine, but I get these now and then when installing or > uninstalling debian apps > >> insserv: Script ETH1START is broken: incomplete LSB comment. >> insserv: missing `Default-Stop:'

Re: nm eth0 connection(2)

2013-09-13 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:14:07AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 07:47:10AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >>>> >>>> What'

Re: Daily downloads with apt / aptitude?

2013-09-15 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Dom wrote: > On 15/09/13 08:58, thunders...@loop.de wrote: >> >> Related to this thing another question: Is there already a debian way, to >> force those new downloaded packages to install, when the system is being >> shutdown by the user? (Similar like windows doe

Re: Long delays caused by rpcinfo

2013-09-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > David Parker wrote: >> >> I have confirmed that rpc.statd is running, which I believe is the port >> mapper in newer distributions. > > AFAIK rpc.statd is not a portmapper replacement. The two portmapper > equivalents that I am aware of are: >

Re: any utility to change ip

2013-09-24 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 9/20/2013 4:21 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Mi, 17 iul 13, 18:43:22, Gary Dale wrote: >>> >>> ifconfig can be used to both query and change the ip addresses of >>> network interfaces on your machine. Used with no arguments, it lists >>>

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-25 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > You missed to understand the irony :D. No, I'm kidding now. Indeed, Arch > Linux forked Evolution, called the fork Evolution too and messed up > quoting for Evolution. This is the policy of Arch Linux, to make broken > forks of current stabl

Re: any utility to change ip

2013-09-25 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Bob Proulx a écrit : >> >> OT Rant: It annoys me that recent Linux kernels reverse the order of >> the route lines. Previously it would have been scanned from top to >> bottom and the first line matching wins. But now it is upside down >> a

Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan wrote: > On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: >> Catherine Gramze wrote: >>> >>> I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running >>> Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-bought computer, >>> which seemed to be wholly u

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla >> upstream versions. > > Correct! So why are you claiming that they've forked Evolu

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner >> wrote: >>> On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: >> >> Stan, joking aside, are there any AMD processors you would recommend >> for doing ke

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Rob Owens wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:11:31PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: >> >> This is regarding the question of what computer hardware to buy that >> will work with debian, given that store-bought computers were a >> problem this latest time. >> >> First, wha

Re: DEVTMPFS, DEVTMPFS_MOUNT, custom no initrd kernel, udev 175-7.2 and 204-4

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Regid Ichira wrote: The following's what I've understood from #722604... > In view of http://bugs.debian.org/722580 and > http://bugs.debian.org/722604: > > A machine with: > - a custom, non initrd, linux image > - udev 175-7.2 > - no DEVTMPFS i

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Regid Ichira wrote: > > Now, considering that an initrd requires a lot more software, I > think that an initrd should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. "A lot more software"?! Installing initramfs-tools will just pull in klibc-utils, libklibc, and busybox!

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: > > I contacted MSI to ask if they made a motherboard I could use. Here is the > exchange: > > Me: I want to purchase a motherboard for a Linux computer. I would prefer > one that would accept the new Haswell processor. The BIOS must allow f

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Beco wrote: > On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H wrote: >> >> (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to >> spare...) > > Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines: > > How

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: > On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Tom H wrote: >> I'd call it obscure rather than magical. > Any sufficiently obscure technique is indistinguishable from magic - (my > apologies to Arthur C. Clark). :) >

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, >> (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such >> as /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc.) are not assigned in a predictable >>

Re: Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:38 AM, David L. Craig wrote: > On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan >> wrote: >>> On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: >>>> Catherine Gramze wrote: >>>>> >>>

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >>> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >>>> >>>> Traditional dev

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Main Backup wrote: > > I just want to ask two simple questions about debian future. > > 1. Will systemd default init system in future? > 2. Why I just can't purge systemd-*** in my system now? I don't want it. > I don't need it. I hate it by my all heart. > If

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > I'll guess that you want one of the BSD variants or the Debian kFreeBSD > variant as systemd is Linux only as I understand it. And FreeBSD'll switch to launchd and Vadim'll switch to Windows 9. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Regid Ichira wrote: > On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >>>> >>>> Traditiona

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM, wrote: > On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:27:19 -0400 > Tom H wrote: >> >> libsystemd-login0 is the replacement of consolekit (which has been >> deprecated) and is used for tracking sessions. Using it doesn't mean >> that you're usi

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-30 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Regid Ichira wrote: > On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Regid Ichira wrote: >>> On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote: >>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mar

Re: network/bridging problems

2013-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Ross Boylan wrote: > I setup bridging on my system for kvm, but on restart of the host system > (no guest VM's running) could not ping outside my local network. > > Bringing the bridge down corrected the problem, but I'm trying to > understand what is going on,

Re: network/bridging problems

2013-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: > > Arun made a suggestion that >> Your 'physical' device eth0/eth2 or whatever needs to be added to the bridge. > I believe that is done by the /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup script that is executed when I > launch the virtual machine. > It says, in part > >

Re: network/bridging problems

2013-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> Arun made a suggestion that >> > Your 'physical' device eth0/eth2 or whatever needs to be added to the >> bridge. >> I believe that is done by the /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup script that is executed >> when I launch the virtual machine. > > I think tha

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > Did you use a recent version of the installer? What I would like to know - > before reinstalling everything on my servers - is whether the option to set > grub on both disks of raid 0 has now been introduced. No. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Francesco Pietra > wrote: >> >> Did you use a recent version of the installer? What I would like to know - >> before reinstalling everything on my servers - is whether the option to set >&

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: >> >> recall that it has been added with Wheezy. But let me put forward >> that it doesn't really matter. If you have RAID then you know you >> want grub on both disks. After installing simply run the grub install >> script against both dis

Re: network/bridging problems

2013-10-06 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: > I removed network manager and have this in /etc/network/interaces: > > # eth2 managed by bridge and not otherwise mentioned > > auto br0 > iface br0 inet dhcp >bridge_ports eth2 > > That seems to work with the kvm-ifup script provided by w

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-08 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Francesco Pietra wrote: > > I hope not to bother beyond the limit, but the security of mirror raid is > something of utmost importance, at least in my work of biochemist, with very > limited ability in recovering from disk failures. > > I planned to use the double-

Re: loop back iptables

2013-10-08 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:04 PM, james gray wrote: > > working with Debian 7.0 > > working with the examples at > > https://wiki.debian.org/iptables > > when i write a example for a lo0 table as shown > > -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT > > and follow procedure of > > iptables-restore < file-name > > i do

Re: trouble exporting NFS in wheezy

2013-10-09 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: > > I have a fresh install of wheezy and am attempting to export some > directories. It's not working, judging from showmount. I've tried > various things and searched, but haven't found anything. > > I have not touched mounts.allow. Do I need

Re: curiosity: quoting in /etc/default

2013-10-09 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: > > I was a little surprised to find that I needed to quote my variable > definitions in /etc/default, at least for nfs-kernel-server. > RPCMOUNTDOPTS="--manage-gids --no-nfs-version 4" > works, but > RPCMOUNTDOPTS=--manage-gids --no-nfs-version 4

Re: trouble exporting NFS in wheezy

2013-10-09 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: > > Thank you. I guess I didn't RTFM closely enough! You're welcome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debia

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-10-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Regid Ichira wrote: > > It seems newer hardware is much more problematic in this sense. I > think MS ovecomes this difficulty by somehow attaching a signature for > each device. I don't have the details, don't know the pros and cons. On a UEFI box, partitions are a

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > Florian Lindner writes: >> >> What is the prefered tool for installing on the CLI? apt-get or >> aptitude? Last time I read about it, it was aptitude, due to better >> dependency checking. What is the current state? apt-get or aptitude? >> D

Re: Mail logs missing in wheezy

2013-10-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:19:30 -0700, David Guntner >> >> What things are logged where is controlled by the /etc/rsyslog.conf >> file. "man rsyslog.conf" for more information about the layout of the >> file. > > Here's an extract from the rsyslo

Re: Problems preseeding Wheezy (7.1)

2013-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > 1. Being on dialup, I use a purchased copy of the 10 DVD set for > installation. > My preseed.cfg is on a USB stick. I use the "Automated install" option. > Pressing allows me to specify the file location. Of course it comes to > a halt

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 16:47 +0300, Alex Moonshine wrote: >> >> I'm using MATE right now and it's good, but from the perspective >> viewpoint, I'd stick with XFCE. > > MATE from upstream does conflict with other software. This isn't good, > it

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> Have you considered NAS? > > No way! What's wrong with NAS to elicit such a rejection? > GVFS is absolutely optional software. You only ever consider things from your limited use-case but upstream developers and distribution maintainer

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > Tom H writes: >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: >>> Florian Lindner writes: >>>> >>>> What is the prefered tool for installing on the CLI? apt-get or >>>> apt

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:42:44 +0200, Tom H wrote: >> >> MATE can be installed alongside other DEs on Fedora so I'm not at all >> convinced by this MATE-conflicts-with-"common-software" meme! >> Soneon

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM, wrote: > Le 11.10.2013 20:44, Tom H a écrit : >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >> >> You've also complained in this thread and previously about compliance >> with green drives. I could've r

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:44:11 +0200, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >>>> Have you considered NAS? >>> >>> No way! >> >> What's wrong

Re: Problems preseeding Wheezy (7.1)

2013-10-11 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Richard Owlett >> wrote: >>> >>> 2. I base my preseed.cfg on the example at >>> http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/example-preseed.txt . Near

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM, wrote: > Le 12.10.2013 00:46, Tom H a écrit : >> >> Did you notice the "could've"? > > Ermm... no, sorry :) did not noticed :/ Pas de soucis! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 18:43 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:42:44 +0200, Tom H wrote: >>>> >>>> MATE can be installed

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, msl09 wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: >> Tom H writes: >>>>> >>>>> Have you filed a bug report about aptitude breaking apt (whatever >>>>> that means!) or is this ju

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jesse Molina wrote: > On 10/12/13 8:22 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Jesse Molina wrote: >>> >>> I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the >>> linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the >>> linux-image-3.10-3-am

Re: Problems preseeding Wheezy (7.1)

2013-10-13 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Richard Owlett >> wrote: >>> Tom H wrote: >>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Richard Owlett >>>> wrote: >>>>&

Re: Problems preseeding Wheezy (7.1)

2013-10-14 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Richard Owlett >> wrote: >>> Tom H wrote: >>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Richard Owlett >>>> wrote: >>>>> Tom H

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Jesse Molina wrote: > On 10/12/13 2:40 AM, Jesse Molina wrote: >> >> I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the >> linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the >> linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is

Re: Jessie Minimum Kernel Requirement

2013-10-16 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 03:54:06PM +0400, recovery...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:46:40 +0200 >> Florian Lindner wrote: >>> >>> What is the minimum kernel version for the upcoming Jessie? Can I rely >>> on that this does no cha

Re: Jessie Minimum Kernel Requirement

2013-10-16 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > Florian Lindner writes: >> >> I plan to use Debian on a virtual server where I can't control the >> kernel version, that is 2.6.32. >> >> What is the minimum kernel version for the upcoming Jessie? > > I am using Jessie with the kernel fro

Re: Jessie Minimum Kernel Requirement

2013-10-17 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:00 AM, wrote: > On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 13:00:19 +0100 > Darac Marjal wrote: > >> This isn't really a safe assumption. There have been transitions in the >> past (such as udev) where the dist-upgrade should be performed as: >> * Update sources.list >> * Install new kern

Re: Oddity in synaptic 0.75.13 (Wheezy)

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Beco wrote: > On 17 October 2013 19:24, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >> >> Using synaptic 0.75.13 in Wheezy under the menu item, "Settings, >> Repositories," the updates tab lists, "Notify me of a new Ubuntu >> version." >> >> What? Is someone developing for Debian but

Re: Oddity in synaptic 0.75.13 (Wheezy)

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Beco wrote: > On 17 October 2013 19:24, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >> >> Using synaptic 0.75.13 in Wheezy under the menu item, "Settings, >> Repositories," the updates tab lists, "Notify me of a new Ubuntu >> version." >> >> What? Is someone developing for Debian but

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > I'd like to configure multiple IP addresses to a VLAN tagged interface. I > tried > > auto eth3.107 > iface eth3.77 inet static > address 10.0.5.15 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > iface eth3.77 inet static > address 10.0.5.16 > ne

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Steffen Dettmer wrote: >> >> I'd like to configure multiple IP addresses to a VLAN tagged >> interface. I tried >> >> auto eth3.107 >> iface eth3.77 inet static >> address 10.0.5.15 >> netmask 255.255.255.0 >> iface eth3.77 inet static >

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> works for me in the form of >> >> allow-auto eth0.9 >> >> iface eth0.9 inet static >> address 192.168.1.119 >> netmask 255.255.255.0 &g

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> auto eth0 >>> iface eth0 inet static >>> address 10.0.5.16 >>> netmask 255.255.255.0 >>> iface eth0

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Tom H wrote: > thanks again for your fast help. You're welcome. >> So Bob must be right about your ifupdown version not using iproute > > I'm using Wheezy with ifup versio

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Chris Davies wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> iface eth3.77 inet static >> address 10.0.5.15 > >> iface eth3.77 inet static >> address 10.0.5.16 > > The Debian documentation at > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-refere

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Steffen Dettmer wrote: >> >> I'd like to configure multiple IP addresses to a VLAN tagged interface. I >> tried >> >> auto eth3.107 >>iface eth3.77 inet static >>address 10.0.5.15 >>netmask 255.255.255.0 >>iface eth3.77 inet

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Miles Fidelman >> wrote: >> >> eth0:1 is an alias. >> > ummm... no, eth0:1 is a virtual interface riding on top of a physical one > (eth0 being th

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> I'm using Wheezy with ifup version 0.7.8, I think this is the >>> latest officially released (aka "the best") one? >> >> Strange. I was

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-19 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> allow-auto eth0.9 >>> iface eth0.9 inet static >>> address 192.168.1.119 >>> netmask 255.255.255.0 >>> gateway 192.168.1.1 >>

Re: grub warning when updating

2013-10-20 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Guy Marcenac wrote: > > I updated today my wheezy system. > In the update there were both a grub and kernel updates. > During install I got these messages > > Setting up grub-pc (1.99-27+deb7u2) ... > /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a part

Re: Gnome login screen not shown

2013-10-20 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 19.10.2013 09:52, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: >> On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 09:40 +0530, bhuvanesh kumar wrote: >>> >>> I recently upgraded my system from Debian testing to Unstable. After, >>> upgrading i'm not able to login to my system >> >> If y

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-21 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: >>> >>> allow-auto eth0.9 >>> iface eth0.9 inet static >>> address 192.168.1.119 >>> netmask 255.255.255.0 >>> gateway 192.168.1.1 >>> post-up ip address add 192.168.1.199/24 dev eth0.9 > > What I use is: > -=-=-=-=-=- > auto eth0 > ifa

Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown

2013-10-23 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > allow-auto eth0.9 > iface eth0.9 inet static > address 192.168.1.119 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > gateway 192.168.1.1 > post-up ip address add 192.168.1.199/24 dev eth0.9 >>> >>> What I use is: >>> -=-=-=-=

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-23 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Jogi Hofmüller wrote: > Am 2013-10-18 12:42, schrieb Jogi Hofmüller: >> Am 2013-10-18 10:35, schrieb Jesse Molina: >>> >>> As previously noted, this was a bug in mdadm and has already been fixed >>> in the current version. Just update your mdadm package and then >>

Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)

2013-10-23 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:09 PM, anx_dev wrote: > > Since the change for pkexec, Synaptic cannot be started with a user > with sudo privileges. This is _very_ cumbersome if you have to admin > several machines with a central NIS for users and allowing only the > user sitting on the machine to hav

Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)

2013-10-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 20:34 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: >> >> I have also had this problem for a while - I thought it was related to >> Mate which I run. >> gksudo will run it here...but pkexec will not. > > I don't know pkexec. Does it all

Re: Boot Problems with 2.6.32-5-686 Kernel

2013-10-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: > > I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade this morning on an old server > (Debian Squeeze) and the system won't boot now. I get the error > > kernel panic not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0) > > One of the updat

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-23 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > I got very frustrated about Webkit (Midori uses Webkit). I found enormous > number > of bugs in CVE list, but most of them were related to products that use > Webkit such > as Google Chrome, I should determine if they originated from

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