Re: New nomeclature of ethernet devices

On 6/26/19 10:23 PM, David Wright wrote: Wait a minute—you haven't paid attention to the new names yet you're already arguing here that they shouldn't be the default? I thought the naming changes (virtual IP addresses) were to benefit cluster management, fencing and nodes, so you could have l

Re: I support the founder of FreeSoftware

On 9/19/19 12:47 PM, Tom Browder wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:30 Jude DaShiell > wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Fred wrote: ... > Do we have our lying idiot, bag of crap, fake President to thank for making > that much worse? Not all agree with

Re: how to update Debian 9.4 to at least OpenGL 3.3

On 06/28/2018 12:20 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL core profile version" My system reports: ric@iam:/opt/ric/Downloads/warzone2100-2.3.8/src$ glxinfo | grep "OpenGL core profile version" OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.48 ric@iam:/opt/ric/Downloads/warzone

Re: Kernel upgrade = freeze on boot (linux-image-4.16.0-2-amd64)

On 07/04/2018 09:12 PM, Carl Fink wrote: On 07/02/2018 04:49 AM, Guillaume Clercin wrote: You need to update "/etc/default/grub" and add parameter to boot with. In this file, you need to edit the line starting with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and append option: "slab_common.usercopy_fallback=y". This wo

Re: No sound/audio

On 07/11/2018 03:31 AM, 70147pers...@telia.com wrote: So is there anyone who can give hints about what I have missed so far? I hate to suggest this on the Debian list, but I installed Ubuntu-Studio to a separate partition which gives you fully functional jack and a real-time kernel to do you

Re: Unix.Trojan.Vali-6606621-0 FOUND

On 07/14/2018 11:50 AM, Hubert Hauser wrote: Hello! Please don't top post. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/4

Re: [OT] An easier database

On 07/25/2018 02:00 PM, Clive Standbridge wrote: I wonder if it would be nice for apt to have a feature so that a user could mark packages "never install". Anyone remember "File Cabinet" for Win3.1? It didn't get easier than that! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are

Re: Can't play Steam games

On 08/04/2018 12:33 PM, Jose G. López wrote: Hi, Is anyone having problems playing games on Steam? Loading is very slow and seems unable to render graphics. My card is a GeForce GTX 750 Ti. I'm using Testing up-to-date, nvidia-driver (390.77-1). I don't know since wich version of nvidia driver

Re: Can't play Steam games

On 08/04/2018 02:30 PM, Jose G. López wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 13:28:13 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: Enter this: in a terminal: inxi -SGx What do you get?? Ric Hi Ric, I get this: -- $ inxi -SGx System:Host: pc-debian Kernel: 4.17.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 7.3.0

Re: Setting default network device in Buster

On 08/04/2018 03:14 PM, Shea Alterio wrote: Pascal, i'm sure when he says "as the default" he wants it to automatically turn on at boot / login. sometimes it's called the preferred interface among other names. Please try not to top-post. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There ar

Re: Can't play Steam games

On 08/05/2018 12:26 PM, Jose G. López wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:24:51 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: On 08/04/2018 02:30 PM, Jose G. López wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 13:28:13 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: Enter this: in a terminal: inxi -SGx What do you get?? Ric Hi Ric, I get this

Re: Using Sid - sound prob

On 08/09/2018 05:10 AM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 08:14:44 +0200 deloptes wrote: Regarding the sound - I never had a problem in the past 12+ years. You are fortunate. I went though a period where the assignments for sound card 0 and 1 would randomly flip, every few weeks or months. I

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

On 08/09/2018 01:39 PM, tech wrote: Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more modern like a bugzilla or else ??? Why?? There already are plenty of such sites, you need only pick and choose. I like it here as I don't have to read a "me too!" message with a meg

Re: Debian Stretch Am Confused about /dev/dsp

On 08/31/2018 03:51 AM, didier gaumet wrote: Hello, from what I understand, using alsa-oss would be better than using the OSS emulation module, partircularly if one is to use sound plug-ins? https://packages.debian.org/stretch/alsa-oss If you use pulse you can execute your program using the

Re: Sound in Stretch

On 09/10/2018 04:22 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:19:09PM +0100, Joe wrote: There's no alsa-base in Stretch. Should there be some other way of producing sounds? If you're looking for alsamixer, it's in alsa-utils. ALSA should just work out of the box for most users who

Re: Bug#908349: firefox-esr: no sound after upgrading from 52.9 to 60.2

On 09/10/2018 08:27 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 11:53:01 + (UTC) Curt wrote: Hello Curt, So uninstall it then in that unfortunate case--with extreme prejudice Time. Oh, and I can't be arsed to try PA in the first place. :-) Or are we dealing with the supernatural her

Re: Gimp Babl too old

On 09/13/2018 12:41 PM, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Tixy wrote: "Sounds like the sort of thing the third party repository at deb-multimedia.org does" Why do they do that? Simply to order their repository ahead of the others? Same reason some people top post. They just ignore the conventions.

Re: NVIDIA drivers and virtual console problem

On 09/14/2018 07:54 AM, Marco Righi wrote: Hello, the NVIDIA drivers (384 from Debian and 390 repositories from the nvidia site) do not allow me to have "virtual consoles" (to be clear, those that are activated with Ctrl-Alt-F1 .. F6). By installing Nouveau the problem disappears, with the two

Re: NVIDIA drivers and virtual console problem

On 09/15/2018 10:28 AM, Thakur Mahashaya wrote: //"Есть два великих грехов в мире... ..грех невежества, грех от глупости.// So stupidity is the mode of ignorance. As the Sorting Hat once said, "I know what to do with YOU!" ...and off you go into my junk folder. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Mo

Re: Help me Linux

On 10/30/18 9:16 AM, Will Mengarini wrote: I TRIED TO INSTALL DEBIAN MANY TIMES BUT FAILED BADLY. I NEVER USED DEBIAN. I believe whoever reading this mail is far more knowledgeable and experienced than me and having good knowledge of Linux. Please help me! First, the entire notion of an email

Re: Help me Linux

On 10/30/18 10:55 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 30 October 2018 10:37:03 Ric Moore wrote: On 10/30/18 9:16 AM, Will Mengarini wrote: I TRIED TO INSTALL DEBIAN MANY TIMES BUT FAILED BADLY. I NEVER USED DEBIAN. I believe whoever reading this mail is far more knowledgeable and experienced

Re: Why has nouveau vs. NVIDIA problem not been addressed?

On 11/15/18 10:24 PM, Tom D. wrote: Thank you, Sir. I understand now. Not quite, you're still top posting. It is frowned upon greatly in these parts. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Onl

Re: that other OS

On 11/16/18 12:34 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: I think it would be great if more people ditched Microsoft on the desktop and went to alternatives, as it would force more software vendors, service providers, etc., to at least acknowledge (if not fully support) Linux, &co. However, I am not goin

Re: that other OS

On 11/16/18 6:31 PM, deloptes wrote: James H. H. Lampert wrote: Actually, I'd call WinDoze a DISservice. (I don't allow WinDoze in my house.) Be pragmatic. Even big crappy hammer can be useful someday, if you want to smash something OK, now it can be TOLD! Enough years have passed so it s

Re: [OT?] home partition vs. home directory

On 11/30/18 3:47 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: Having lately been successfully "mount -B" ing my /var/cache/apt/archives hoard, I can now easily see having those (~/Documents, ~/Downloads, et al) each remaining as their own separate directories on a secondary partition. Fstab would then be asked t

Re: [OT?] home partition vs. home directory

On 11/30/18 8:45 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, November 30, 2018 08:32:23 PM Ric Moore wrote: On 11/30/18 3:47 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: Having lately been successfully "mount -B" ing my /var/cache/apt/archives hoard, I can now easily see having those (~/Documents, ~/Dow

Re: (No Subject)

On 12/11/18 3:45 PM, md wrote: md wrote: Using an old PATA-to-USB cable, I attached a 15 year old PATA DVD Drive It's better to include a subject so others can reference your problem and it's possible resolution in the future. Otherwise someone has to devote their time only to you. This ain'

Re: Time Domain Reflectometer (was Re: internet outages)

On 12/24/18 1:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 24 December 2018 12:29:53 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, December 24, 2018 08:39:18 AM Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 24 December 2018 08:18:27 Carl Fink wrote: On 12/24/18 7:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I have a firmware update file kit

Re: mpd cannot find default alsa soundcard; sudo -u mpd aplay -D default /Side_Right.wav results in desired audio output.

On 12/25/18 9:40 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 03:29:32PM +0100, toogley wrote: ==> any ideas? This does not look right: # groups mpd mpd : audio This means that mpd's primary group is not audio. /etc/mpd.conf audio_output { type"alsa"

Re: APT candidate does not match package on Debian repo

On 1/16/19 5:04 AM, plataleas plataleas wrote: Indeed the mirror was not updated correctly. Sorry for that. PLEASE stop spamming me and the entire list, who you have CC'd to everyone personally. Jerk

Re: Stop insulting users

On 1/17/19 3:29 AM, Dominik George wrote: Den 16. januar 2019 23:43:04 CET, skrev Ric Moore : On 1/16/19 5:04 AM, plataleas plataleas wrote: Indeed the mirror was not updated correctly. Sorry for that. PLEASE stop spamming me and the entire list, who you have CC'd to everyone perso

Re: IPv6 static config in /etc/network/interfaces ignored

On 1/27/19 10:29 AM, Claudio M wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone came across this recently, because I can't find any bug reports or posts referring to it online (so I'm wondering if I messed something up inadvertenenp8s0tly). Is /dev/eth0 still viable? Mine is now /dev/enp8s0 ifconfig sho

Re: What am I missing that causes this error response from the wheezy mozilla?

On 2/6/19 8:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 06 February 2019 20:15:48 John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: I have had to write 2 checks for the last 2 vehicles I've bought. Writing a single check for close to $20k for a good used car/truck doesn't fly, some sort of a rule that 10k and over

Re: WiFi without Network Manager

On 2/13/19 9:14 AM, John Hasler wrote: s better not to post "Thanks" to a busy mailing list. If you must do so please put "Thanks" in the subject line. OR "solved", which is much more useful for the next guy. No need for "thanks" as "solved" is the ultimate goal for posterity. It's what I lo

Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

On 2/21/19 1:36 PM, ghe wrote: On 2/21/19 11:18 AM, Reco wrote: Ping *always* required root, Maybe, but I didn't know that. I've been on Debian since the days of the major Toy Story characters, and I've always just typed 'ping' and it punged. I just typed "ping redhat.com", as user, and it

Re: Laptop still extremely slow after replacing msata ssd and putting old one back

On 3/4/19 12:21 PM, hdv@gmail wrote: On 04/03/2019 16.14, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 04.03.2019 19:40, hdv@gmail wrote: On 04/03/2019 15.36, Ric Moore wrote: On 3/4/19 9:19 AM, hdv@gmail wrote: ame day, no old image was used. Right, but if you didn't use a "clean install&

Re: And now, from the Nice people? Re: Group thoughts on: Anti-virus tools

On 3/10/19 3:53 PM, Brian wrote: On Sun 10 Mar 2019 at 13:18:54 -0400, deb wrote: Crumogeon tip: It is no longer 1972.   If you have nothing nice or at least helpful to say on a  USER list, say nothing at all. All the responses were helpful. You just have to fit them into your World View and

Re: vblade-persist

On 3/13/19 4:22 PM, Eriel Perez wrote: Hola colegas. cuando intento vblade-persist restart all me dice: warning: /var/lib/vblade-persist/vblades/e0.0: unable to open supervise/ok: file does not exist Alguna sugerencia. El fichero si esta donde dice y con todos los permisos. Wrong list

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

On 4/4/19 10:15 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I frankly don't care if it needs users. To get users, it has to work. If it doesn't work at least as well as synaptic, it will never get the users. If thats not plain enough to the people making these descisions, tuff luck. This stuff gets its users by wo

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 4/16/19 11:32 PM, Keith Bainbridge wrote: I tried java about 15 years ago, and failed miserably. Perhaps a bad choice, but what the Uni course I was trying to get into required. I can write a script and alias's in .bashrc, the odd macro in Calc. I keep telling my friends it's never too late

Re: Why Debian

On 11/19/2013 03:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: When Ubuntu was new, they called me a troll when I said something about Mark Shuttleworth, but all I said became true :). I'm satisfied ;). We shoulda had a V-8 juice! One thing is for certain, This User list is 1000% better than the Ubunutu user l

Re: Let's have a vote!

On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to download an ISO for Debian? For me, it's the safest way to install/upgrade. I have had too many problems with interrupted live major migration to the next release level via an upgrade, or a live network total i

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

On 09/27/2014 04:41 PM, softwatt wrote: I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. You may need to do it multiple times if you have multiple languages.

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

On 09/27/2014 05:34 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 9/27/14, softwatt wrote: I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. You may need to do it multiple

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 09/28/2014 09:28 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2014 28 Sep 08:23 -0500, Liam Proven wrote: On 27 September 2014 03:45, Joel Rees wrote: edumaction? I saw that and checked the headers, because what you are writing here seems a bit out of character. If this is a spoof, the headers are done be

Re: Enabling a second graphic card

On 10/01/2014 10:39 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Does anyone knows if nouveau is supports a configuration with 2 graphic cards, or do I have to install NVidia's drivers to do the job? Does someone have some links to documents which could explain how to enable that 2nd card? I disab

Re: 32/64 bit ... downloading install images

On 10/04/2014 11:12 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: My machine has nothing to do with amd Well, AMD created the x86-64 architecture we are all using (Intel's IA-64 never became really popular), so actually it does ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 That is interesting. I

Re: Expletives Deleted

On 10/04/2014 04:16 PM, Curt wrote: On 2014-10-04, David Baron wrote: Comeon, folks, I take it we are at least pretending to be professionals. That Professionals? Yeah, or something like that! :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world...

Re: MP3 player compatible with Debian

On 10/04/2014 04:52 PM, Intense Red wrote: Respectfully, once you're getting above $100 USD, you're better off getting an cheap android phone/tablet. I didn't catch the first part of this thread, but I agree with you. What I have to wonder about is what is meant by "compatible with Debian".

Re: apt update problems

On 10/04/2014 05:46 PM, Charlie wrote: Just tried it to see how it worked, but it doesn't work for me. W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/jessie/dists/main/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/jessie/dists/main/contrib/binary-amd64/Pack

Re: Moderated posts?

On 10/06/2014 05:42 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Personally, I think the right way to moderate a list is: A) Tell everyone it's a moderated list B) Send the poster a short reason why his post has been moderated. Sure! GREAT IDEA!! Now, who wants to spend their free time wringing their hands and ema

Re: Moderated posts?

Someone please censor this irrelevant thread. It's already old, worn out and the same people keep repeating the same thing, over and over and over, like the rest of us are too stupid to get it the first time. Plus, you're wasting my limited bandwidth. :/ Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) use

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

On 09/27/2014 08:31 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 06:46:49PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 09/27/2014 05:34 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 9/27/14, softwatt wrote: I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in the wrong language. If you use multiple

Re: Network fails on headless system. I'm stuck!

On 10/13/2014 05:08 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 12 October 2014 13:42:52 JPT wrote: any idea what the problem is, and how to solve? Those with better heads than I will help you with this, but why on earth at this time are you running Jessie headless? Surely, if you need to run headless, i

Re: debian-advocacy?

On 10/14/2014 12:40 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: I do not want to hear from someone acting out of a misplaced sense of loyalty. I want someone who actually is capable of seeing why elitism isn't going to save Debian in this case, to come forward, and create a place where the issue can be has

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

On 10/15/2014 07:08 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit : On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : >On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >>Check ou

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote: We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what I mean). Wonderful Linux company Corel changed their CEO, and promptly accepted money from Microsoft and dropped all their Windows

Re: debian-advocacy?

On 10/15/2014 12:34 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: That's a problem in itself. There should be room for real discussion as is taking place here on the debian-user list, without fear of having posts filtered. I agree, but they (the moderators) have a vested interest when someone posts something

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

On 10/15/2014 05:06 PM, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/10/16 5:46 "Ric Moore" mailto:wayward4...@gmail.com>>: > > On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > >> We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company >> Caldera became SCO (ov

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

On 10/15/2014 08:02 PM, Marty wrote: On 10/15/2014 04:19 PM, Ric Moore wrote: This is fortuitous! Not a bad gig at all. I'm sure some soreheads think that we debated WORLD DOMINATION during lunch, or how to screw over Debian, but sadly we mostly discussed what was the "Right T

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

On 10/16/2014 11:30 PM, Marty wrote: On 10/16/2014 08:41 PM, Ric Moore wrote: But, I consider it idiotic to bash Red Hat as ~anyone~ with the guts can do what Bob Young did. Just gather some talented people together around a kitchen table and create your own distro. That is perfectly legal

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On 10/17/2014 01:32 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 10/17/2014 1:29 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: I finished the thread right before I posted, and there were only 4 seconds. Guess I missed some sub threads or something... Oh well, glad to see it will get a vote... The fun part will be to see who actually s

Re: update tool

On 10/17/2014 03:27 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:20:29 +0200 Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi, On this page : https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch10.en.html One says : "10.1.2.1 Manually checking which security updates are available Debian does have a specifi

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On 10/19/2014 04:32 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 20/10/14 04:03, Martin Read wrote: On 19/10/14 17:45, Rusi Mody wrote: As for 'wounded ego': Do you have a wounded ego if a dead branch falls and smashes the windshield of your car? Or a Tsunami knocks off your seafront house? If you are taking

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On 10/20/2014 01:27 AM, Rusi Mody wrote: On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:50:02 PM UTC+5:30, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Slavko wrote: Ahoj, napísal: On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote: I cannot believe some people stil

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On 10/20/2014 10:15 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 18 oct 14, 10:20:25, Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: We were objecting to the ad hominem unpleasantness and destruction of the list. Let me try to explain (yet again, sorry, but re-wording things some

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On 10/20/2014 02:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: If you mean you are actually DOSing Debian's support channels just to make you're point that's likely to get you banned instead, besides not achieving anything. ~OR!~ "List archives get refreshed every 20 minutes." is a more likely reason for the

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On 10/20/2014 04:54 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 20 oct 14, 16:49:48, Ric Moore wrote: On 10/20/2014 02:35 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: If you mean you are actually DOSing Debian's support channels just to make you're point that's likely to get you banned instead, beside

systemd as fence

I am supposed to be using a "fence" to restart Debian based Proxmox cluster nodes when they fail and to trigger another mirrored node to become active to replace the failed one. Systemd claims it can restart/reboot if it detects failure. Anyone tried this yet? Could it be used as primary fence?

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

On 10/22/2014 12:17 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop? Or something that fulfills both scenarios? And why? Just wondering. See above and unl

Re: Is there a way to send SystemD to Devil?

On 10/22/2014 09:45 AM, Marcelo wrote: Is there a way to use Debian without systemD? I use Debian since Potato and I never have a lot of problem than I still having in the past tow weeks! SystemD, Cups with a lot of Symlinks, Please, raise the potato version! Puleeeze, this issue has been

Re: Screen doesn't turn off

On 10/23/2014 05:45 PM, Catalin Soare wrote: Hi, I've got 2 computera, both running Debian Wheezy, all updates applied. One of them seems to ignore the "Brightness and lock" setting which should make the screen turn off after 30 minutes. It simply remains on all day or night. Anyone have a clue

Re: Problem with systemd-sleep in Jessie

To the OP: Stack. THANK YOU for starting an intelligent systemd Q&A. One feature I read about is that systemd will shut down under various conditions that would also prevent exhausting the battery on a laptop. I don't suppose there is anyway to install fresh to get rid of old cruft?? I'm of no

Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

On 11/15/2014 08:51 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-11-15, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: Why can't you wrap your lines while you're at it? Can't you set your mail client to wrap them for you ? Sure, and I can killfile the troll, correct the spelling and grammatical errors of the slothful and the ignorant

Re: engineering management practices and systemd (Re: Installing an Alternative Init?)

On 11/15/2014 08:35 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote: At the same time, most debian users likely do not really care about transition plan and systemd. It was widely published everywhere in March and yet, no one would have cared if this mattered ? I installed systemd to Jessie as soon as it was announc

Re: Hostility on Debian forums

On 11/19/2014 06:23 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 09:16:36AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 19 November 2014 08:24:13 Ben Finney wrote: Hanover Shriver writes: Only pro-Feminist programmers were allowed to contribute to free/opensource software. Fuck these cunts (or ra

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

On 11/23/2014 12:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: That is the huge majority of Debian users. Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as expected. Like what?? I first installed systemd back when it was announced. I have yet to have a single problem with it. Many wil

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

On 11/23/2014 11:43 AM, John Hasler wrote: Andrew McGlashan writes: You will never see the full picture of the problem if you only listen to what is allowed to be received via the debian-user list... What makes you think debian-user is my only source of information? ...and you are deluded if

Re: Why focus on systemd?

On 11/23/2014 11:16 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 10:47:51PM +0100, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:43:01 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: On 22/11/14 22:14, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:46:19 +1100 Scott Ferguson wrote: It lost. Dev

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

On 11/23/2014 09:20 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 11/23/2014 12:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: That is the huge majority of Debian users. Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as expected. Like what?? I first inst

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

On 11/24/2014 08:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And while Wheezy will still be supported for a couple of years, it's not necessarily the answer. While many people don't want the "latest and greatest", they also don't want the "oldest and baddest". Sounds like your customers need to either pay fo

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the default init more distros will follow suit, and more and more developers will start writing apps with systemd, or parts of it, as a dependency for the "features" it offers. Every other

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 12/01/2014 04:18 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the default init more distros will follow suit, and more and more developers will start writing apps

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 12/02/2014 04:47 AM, maderios wrote: Hi guys Not for me but interesting. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg1MDQ "# More about the vision This is just a start, as bold as it sounds to call it fork, at a process that will unfold in time and involve more people, first to im

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 12/02/2014 02:34 AM, Stephan Seitz wrote: Debian has kindled a big fire with this systemd crap. It’s time to jump ship before you only have ashes. Shade and sweet water! Stephan yes! Yes! RUNAWAY!! :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 12/03/2014 04:18 PM, Märk Owen wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:50:05 +0100 maderios wrote: On 12/03/2014 08:37 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Jessie isn't Debian. Devuan IS (will be) what we know about Debian! Waiting to see Joel joining Devuan... lol I've no problem with systemd (Sid), it w

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 12/04/2014 12:33 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2014, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:24:03 -0800 Patrick Bartek wrote: Hello Patrick, use and no one else's, why distribute it at all? Simple: Ego. Perhaps. Or insecurity, and the need for validation. Or arroganc

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 12/04/2014 03:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 04 December 2014 19:41:44 Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 18:48:31 + Brian wrote: Hello Brian, It probably also makes my behaviour stupid. But stupidity is in short supply as you two have a monopoly on it and it doesn't look lik

Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX

On 12/04/2014 04:29 PM, Brian Sammon wrote: On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 14:46:09 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: I was recently given a Mac Mini (Intel Mid 2007) that had been wiped. I tried to install Debian (Wheezy) on it, and the installer reported success, but when it came time to eject and reboot, D

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 12/05/2014 04:44 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-05, Buntunub wrote: And so it comes full circle. This is why there is a need for a Debian fork. /I/ don't have to do any of those things. You don't either. The good folks at Devuan will take care of all that for you. Fine then go fork yourselve

Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX

On 12/05/2014 10:55 AM, Brian Sammon wrote: On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:51:11 + Steve McIntyre wrote: Hi Brian, You might be in luck - I'm looking into installer stuff right now and I've literally just got an Intel Mac Mini like yours last night to play with. To the best of my knowledge, the M

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

On 12/05/2014 03:35 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Linux can use a special RAID 10 mode (mirror+stripe) with two or three disks. with 6 disks, RAID 6 will give you double the capacity of 4 disks or get you immunity to 3 disks failing. RAID 6 can survive 2 disk failures regarless of the number of

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

On 12/05/2014 05:06 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian wrote: But remember our current slogan "Linux is all about choice". One can choose to boot with or without "fsck.mode=skip". What about the choice to stop fsck it if it has started at an inconvenient

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

On 12/06/2014 02:21 PM, Erwan David wrote: Le 06/12/2014 06:27, Ric Moore a écrit : On 12/05/2014 05:06 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian wrote: But remember our current slogan "Linux is all about choice". One can choose to boot with

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 12/06/2014 02:40 PM, Erwan David wrote: Le 06/12/2014 15:19, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Lu, 01 dec 14, 23:05:09, Patrick Bartek wrote: Well, we already know what a lot of Debian server admins think of systemd. Care to back this up with some data? Kind regards, Andrei They may think of sy

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

On 12/06/2014 04:56 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 01 dec 14, 23:05:09, Patrick Bartek wrote: Well, we already know what a lot of Debian server admins think of systemd. Care to back this up with some data? Why? You've read this list regarding

Re: no microphone in skype

On 12/06/2014 05:04 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: While I have no specific suggestions for you, I can confirm that Skype works with my debian wheezy ver. 7.7 and xfce desktop on my laptop: ralph@spike2 ~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^

Re: no microphone in skype

On 12/07/2014 05:06 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 06 dec 14, 23:57:00, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: Is skype 4.3.0.37-1 working for anyone running Jessie with the following pulseaudio version? rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ pulseaudio --version pulseaudio 5.0 Works here. I'm on Sid, but due to the f

Re: Iceweasel Latest update stealing bandwidth uselessly

On 12/07/2014 06:03 AM, Alex wrote: This is 'theft' of bandwidth for which I PAY, which is for my exclusive use only - NOT some snooping, mongrel, NSA lapdog with way too much money. Not only is this theft but it is also done under subterfuge by using an unrelated domain name - itwa.net. "Libr

Re: Iceweasel Latest update stealing bandwidth uselessly

On 12/07/2014 02:51 PM, Clive Standbridge wrote: Do you subscribe to the Dali Llama somehow? :) Ric Is that some kind of mystical Tibetan woolly creature? Maybe the origin of the yeti myth. Are you saying that a yeti is stealing bandwidth?? OMG. But, from what I could google, the bandwidth s

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