Re: how to stop reboot from delete'n directory

emd unit would be overkill, rc.local is fine). https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/systemd/tmpfiles.d.5.en.html tmpfiles.d - Configuration for creation, deletion and cleaning of volatile and temporary files Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

ferred in these cases) Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: How To Permanently Add-to a Users PATH Statement in the Bash Shell

Jonathan Dowland (12020-07-07): > Not in the default PATH either. No, but probably one of the first things anybody who has non-elementary use will have configured anyway. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

, you might as well throw bash away and write the entire program > in perl instead. I concur. And I would advise against using the features of perl that makes it automatically behave somewhat like awk or others, with implicit parameters and the like. Better write what you mean explicitly and readably. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

it easily: $ a="abcxydefxyghi"; echo ${(s:xy:)a} abc def ghi I leave as an exercise the task of properly escaping backslash and pipe if necessary. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

,$4,$5}' Have you considered that pipes without backslashes are not supposed to be separators? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

limiter cannot work in all cases. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

Bob Weber (12020-07-15): > which replaces \| with a single character which is known not to be in > the input data For the third time, and on top of what other people have told you: THERE ARE NO CHARACTERS KNOWN NOT TO BE IN THE INPUT. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Descr

Re: delimiters with more than one character?

3 \| c\|123abc "; > $s.put'; > 34 + 45 | abc | 1 2 3 | c|123abc Observe your output carefully. You'll notice that the string you defined does not actually contain any backslash. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: delimiters with more than one character? ...

Zenaan Harkness (12020-07-17): > And mount /tmp as ramdisk ftw. tmpfs is not a ramdisk. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

tmpfs is not a ramdisk (was: delimiters with more than one character? ...)

disappear you want. If all you want is not to have to worry about cleaning up, then you are good with tmpfs. If you are worried that sensitive data may end up on disk, then encrypt your swap with an ephemeral key. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

SANE default scanner

tell them each time? Thanks. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

nately, it does not work: for GUI tools, this environment variable pre-selects the device in the device selection dialog, but it does not make it appear if it is not detected (?!???@!%@?!!!?). Also, it works for only one scanner. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

very bad taste for xsane to somehow scan my whole network just in case a scanner happens to be there.) Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

etime you > must add your own into this lib. Thanks, but that is for USB, I am asking for network. To summarize: I want to tell SANE URLs for network-connected scanners so that they can be presented to the users in GUI dialogs. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

resented to the users in GUI dialogs. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

crap from HP. After all, the scanner works, my problem is only a UI problem. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

There is no bug to debug, this is useless. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

nothing like the provided examples: 192.168.0.15 ::1 localhost scan-server.office.lan net.conf is for scanner shared with SANE's protocol. Notice the "hpaio:" fake URL protocol. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

ch? Well, in between explaining why all the answers I got do not match the question, I RTFS, and it seems indeed it is not possible with SANE. What stupid design. As for the hpaio backend, it relies on CUPS to find networked printers, but CUPS will not be always running. What stupid design. R

Re: SANE default scanner

ects networked scanners by querying CUPS for networked printers. But I do not want CUPS running. This is not a bug, just a completely idiotic design. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

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Re: SANE default scanner

Brian (12020-07-27): > libsane-hpaio needs CUPS to deal with scanners? Imagination is a great > asset. Sometimes! If you do not believe me, just RTFS or use ldd and nm to check. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

Brian (12020-07-27): > Ok, libsane-hpaio requires libcups.so.2. That's nowhere near requiring > CUPS, in particular cups-daemon. The printing system is not involved > with scanning. This is the last time I grace you with a reply. As I have told you twice now, unlike you, I have read the source cod

Re: SANE default scanner

Siard (12020-07-27): > It looks simple to me, or am I missing something? Does it add the scanner in Gimp's scanner menu? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

Nicolas George (12020-07-27): > Well, in between explaining why all the answers I got do not match the > question, I RTFS, and it seems indeed it is not possible with SANE. What > stupid design. > > As for the hpaio backend, it relies on CUPS to find networked printers, > bu

Re: SANE default scanner

27;t, that's pretty obvious looking at the source code: - The only way to have SANE-using applications see the scanner is that hpaio detects it. - The only way to have hpaio detect the scanner is to have CUPS running, the corresponding printer configured and hpaio allowed to connect to it. Bot

Re: SANE default scanner

r > missing feature. The fact that this option did not exist first and before probing is what I call a design mistake. And the fact that hpaio relies on CUPS is inexcusable. There is no doubt it can be done. I just doubt it will. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Capture screen with mencoder

recommended except for DVDs. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: SANE default scanner

ould be better invested in an external work-around, it would be less effort than forking, and more convenient. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Capture screen with mencoder

etails than you did here. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Support for AMD Ryzen 3 3200U

Nicolas George (12020-06-27): > I need to buy a new computer. I am considering one based on the > AMD Ryzen 3 3200U, more precisely the ZOTAC ZBOX CA621 Nano. > > From what I read on the web, it seems I would be able to get it working > with Debian Testing. > > Can someb

Multiple keyboard layouts on the Linux console

's key [1] yields '&' unshifted and '1' shifted. To handle that, you would have to find an unused key code, and then use loadkeys table to map it. Hope this helps somebody. Regards, -- Nicolas George 8<----8<----8<8< evdev_map.c -

Re: SANE default scanner

them each time? > > > > Thanks. > > > I've just yesterday got a partial success by just adding this > into /etc/sane.d/saned.conf > > tcp 192.168.9.114 Thank you. But hpaio and saned are two different protocols, and apparently SANE lacks a cross-protocol c

Re: Disks renamed after update to 'testing'...?

Thomas Schmitt (12020-08-18): > I only deem *UUID as safe, unless the same names on different devices > are intented and always only one of those devices will be connected. UUID can get duplicated too. Just have somebody copy the whole block device with "good ol' dd". Re

Re: increasing size of /run

you can restart it. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: increasing size of /run

Curt (2018-07-13): > Why not (not a rhetorical question)? Because requiring unusual system configuration for user programs is not convenient in the long run. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: CDROM will not play a music cd.

D PCM data: 10 Mo/mn, transparent stereo Opus: <~1 Mo/mn. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: CDROM will not play a music cd.

y, anything but smooth and continuous. Rip the CD. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Problems with kernel 4.17.0-1-amd64

re not yet loaded from disk.) Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: can't install jmtpfs of stretch(i386)

The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: >  jmtpfs : Depends: fuse but it is not going to be installed > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. It works here. Your problem is not with secur

Re: (solved)Re: can't install jmtpfs of stretch(i386)

you do not have respect for the persons on this list, then you do not deserve respect in return. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: (solved)Re: can't install jmtpfs of stretch(i386)

T BkRl (2018-08-05): > Sorry Nicolas Saying sorry when you do it again is a lie. Good bye, this is the last you will hear of me. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

ns to access any user's account. On a single-user machine, it is one and the same. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

of the system (beyond > just the user's account) to be something worth securing, even on a > single-user system. Maybe. But it does not need to be *more* secure than the user's account. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

from them. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

path, for example (in that malevolent person's effort to elevate > himself to superuser status). Indeed. It protects you from semi-competent crackers. With incompetent ones, is is not needed, with competent ones it is useless. You judge if it is worth the hassle. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: What time is it, really?

lose to the computer clock. If you are looking at the time I underlined above, I am pretty sure (looking at the source) that it is the local time, not the time returned by the server. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: OT: What time is it, really?

ence that it does? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: OT: What time is it, really?

er. You were right to use a complete implementation of NTP. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: What time is it, really?

default configuration. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: What time is it, really?

ry to find out how to obtain > this file, etc. You mean, like installing the ntp-doc package, maybe ? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

Pétùr (2018-08-11): > The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. Maybe learn how to use $PATH? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Problems with kernel 4.17.0-1-amd64

Hi. An update on this: Nicolas George (2018-07-25): > The device for the audio controller takes about 0.3 seconds to open. I > have just rebooted on 4.16, and with it the delay is imperceptible. (And > yes, 0.3 seconds for that is a problem for me.) The audio device is > listed as &q

Re: Problems with kernel 4.17.0-1-amd64

ler helps. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: ISO file to sd card: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table

t does not contain a MBR-style partition table. You can try to mount /dev/sdb itself. But you are probably doing something wrong in the first place. What is your endgame? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: ISO file to sd card: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table

local10 (2018-08-14): > The goal here is to create an sd card containg a bootable windows 7 > image, I need to test something quick in windows. The iso file  is a > windows 7 image. Then I suspect you would have more luck asking people familiar with windows. Regards, -- Nicol

Re: Bash true/false builtings undocumented? "false" not working?

e same thing as the standard and non-builtin true and false? > $ test $? && Stop right there. "test $?" does not do what you think it does. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bash true/false builtings undocumented? "false" not working?

pr to make numerical computations, but in this instance it is completely overkill. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: what is special about unrar-free when we have unar ?

x27;t know ? The unrar package is not free. Read this: https://www.debian.org/intro/free Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: what is special about unrar-free when we have unar ?

Michael Stone (2018-08-21): > Read more closely. :) Please elaborate. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: sometimes i go huh (grep result)

invalid option -- 'g' Same as above. > me@ant(28)$ env | grep '\-g' > CFLAGS=-g grep sees the argument starting with a backslash, it is not an option, therefore it is the regexp. But backshash-dash could have had a special semantic, like backslash-parentheses. > me@a

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

John Hasler (2018-09-02): > Some email clients have filtering. Get one. This kind of answer is despicable. You would deserve that Curt subscribes your address to all junk mail lists he can find. You would just have to filter them. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

Dan Purgert (2018-09-02): > Difference is, Curt chose to subscribe to this list, which happens to > carry this thread This list is about using Debian. This thread is not. Therefore, this thread is pollution on this list. I will personally refrain from polluting further. Regards, -- N

Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur"

f some people is boundless. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Bug#908349: firefox-esr: no sound after upgrading from 52.9 to 60.2

ory next. > Freedom sometimes sucks; the lack thereof always sucks :) Hear, hear. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: where does fvwm get its xterm icon?

Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) (2018-09-17): > I can't figure out where fvwm is getting the xpm icon for an xterm. AFAIK, Fvwm get most windows icons (as opposed to menu / button icons) from the applications themselves. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: where does fvwm get its xterm icon?

imple except that > the package required never made it past squeeze, so you'd need to > visit the archives, specifically: The real fix is even simpler: start your X11 clients from Fvwm's InitFunction, not from .xinitrc. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: cannot open display: localhost:0.0

Étienne Mollier (2018-09-23): > or removing “-nolisten” to Xorg parameters: Finally somebody in this thread who payed attention in the last fifteen years... Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: where does fvwm get its xterm icon?

is just because I have spent a significant part of the week-end surrounded by multimedia jargon.) Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Color of the active window title bar in ubuntu-mate?

; !MWMDecor Style "Gajim" !MWMDecor Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Color of the active window title bar in ubuntu-mate?

~/.fvwm2rc, so I doubt it will be useful for you, sorry. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Color of the active window title bar in ubuntu-mate?

my mother > used to say. I think I had heard of it but forgotten. It works, but LD_PRELOADs are fragile. A patched version of Gtk+3 would be more robust. Also, IIRC, somebody maintains a set of patches somewhere, and I have a bookmark somewhere. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Bookworm: Firefox v102 seems to be hanging quite often

it since the last upgrade two days ago. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Softraid & partclone

ning? Read the device that contains the data, /dev/mdX. Or add your new drive to the RAID, wait for synchronization, then remove it. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

5 GHz hostapd stopped working

0211/parameters/ieee80211_regdom FR and it did not change anything. Can anybody suggest something to try? Thanks in advance. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Mouse / Tablet

axis. I think some of the answers you seek can be found there: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00755.html Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: debian/rules @variable@ syntax

jeremy ardley (12022-11-01): > If it's not Makefile, it's quite possibly cmake I strongly doubt that Debian uses cmake for its packaging. Source? -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: debian/rules @variable@ syntax

jeremy ardley (12022-11-01): > cmake has inbuilt support for deb packaging cmake can have all the features it wants, if Debian does not use it, then talking about it is a waste of time. Do you have a source that shows Debian uses cmake for its packaging? -- Nicolas George signature.

Re: which gui text editor support correct rendering of multiple languages

bian bullseye. I just tested, mousepad and jedit accept accents perfectly well. You have another problem somewhere else. OTOH, jedit does not run with my default 6G limit on addressspace and does not understand X11 middle-mouse paste → apt-get purge this shit. Regards, -- Nicolas George s

Re: which gui text editor support correct rendering of multiple languages

bit character set. I checked that mousepad and jedit, the two editors mentioned by the OP, work well even with LC_CTYPE=C. I did not go to testing if they save and reopen the file correctly, only pasting. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

Curt (12022-11-08): > Redundancy sounds a lot like a back up. RAID also sounds a lot like a backup, and the R means redundant. Yet raid is not a backup. -- Nicolas George

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

BOY and the backup tool runs before you notice it, you still have the precious data in the previous generation. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

our data off-site at the same rate as you duplicate it on a second local drive. That means your off-site data will survive an EMP, but you will lose minutes / hours / days of data prior to the EMP. OTOH, RAID will not survive an EMP, but it will prevent all data loss caused by isolated hardware failure. -- Nicolas George

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

mail did not stop at the line you quoted. Reading mails to the end is usually a good practice to avoid missing information. -- Nicolas George

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

Curt (12022-11-10): > Why restate it then needlessly? To NOT state that you were wrong when you were not. This branch of the discussion bores me. Goodbye. -- Nicolas George

Re: just saying

n boost and benefit from all the gratis code without giving anything in return. But there is even better than “Free Software”: Libre Software, because it avoids all the “as in free beer” / “as in free speech” shenanigans. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: xfce install

n i do btw sudo > apt-get install xfce4. > anhybody a solution for this? When you ask for help about a command that failed, you do not make a sentence to explain, you copy-paste the command (including the shell prompt) and its output. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: xfce install

e material for the FAQ? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: xfce install

Greg Wooledge (12022-12-24): > 2) export LC_ALL=C I have considered suggesting this, but some locales are required for programs to work correctly (LC_CTYPE), and some other locales might be the cause for the issue and disabling them would make debugging harder. Regards, -- Nicolas Geo

Re: Wear levelling on micro-sd cards

ocontroller of the SD card is capable of decoding filesystem data structures to find out which sectors are unused? I find it rather surprising. That implies a SD card could discard data from deleted file, defeating recovery tools and steganography. If find it highly doubtful. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Wear levelling on micro-sd cards

which > would be available for erasure and reuse the that repeated write. Unless the card is brand new, “what flash blocks contain data” is “all of them”. The information whether a block is used or not used resides in the filesystem data structures. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Wear levelling on micro-sd cards

me, you have a 64GB card, with just a 4GB partition Pathologically underused. A more typical use of a card would be “damn, my camera/phone/recorder tells me the card is full, I need to copy a few things to the cloud”. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Wear levelling on micro-sd cards

hat capacity. Good for you. But constructors will not design cards for this niche use case. Cards that gets almost filled are common, constructors will have optimized their process to handle them. -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: X11 and hot-plugged keyboards and multiple layouts

Nicolas George (12020-02-19): > 8<8<8<8< xi2watch.c >8>8>8>8 Hi. I am replying to my own mail of three years ago where I explained how to configure X11 to set different layouts on different keyboards and handle hot-plugging witho

Re: Limiting ssh access: by MAC Address?

olutely not an efficient security measure. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: X11 and hot-plugged keyboards and multiple layouts

ngs. If not, then you need to get it to work reliably before you can consider automating it. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Missing links of libraries (*.so) on Debian 11

uld someone let me know what the change is and what is the new convention > being used? The .so symbolic are not for running programs, they are for building them. For running, you only need the .so.vers links. If a program dynamically loads directly a .so, it is probably bugged. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Unexpected permission denied

---+ 1 root video81, 3 Jan 25 08:33 video3 The + at the end of the permissions means there are ACLs on these devices, allowing the console user to access them. ACLs are implemented using extended attributes. The fancy security systems like SE Linux use them too. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Unexpected permission denied

ommand to be executed in an environment closer to the one that causes the problem, and therefore is more likely to reveal it. Use any command of your choice instead of sudo of course. Regards, -- Nicolas George

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