How does one go about testing the functionality of the parallel port on
their computer?
I am trying to get my Samsung ML-1450 working with my Debian Woody
workstation and I am having no luck. I have downloaded the drivers from
Samsung for this printer and went through the setup. I am using lpr t
> > I have greped for things that I thought would be relevant
> in /var/log
> > and could not find anything out of the ordinary. Any ideas?
>
> by default linux doesn't put the parallel port in interrupt
> mode, most parallel ports default to using IRQ 7. On my
> systems I force enable the pa
I just upgraded a whole pile of packages on my unstable workstation. I have
been using:
dselect update
dselect install
to initiate the upgrade process.
I used to use:
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
but because of a problem with libxrender1 I switched to the dselect method.
See:
http://lists.debia
>-Original Message-
>From: Rob Weir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:55 PM
>On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 11:24:58AM -0500, Michael Kahle said
>> Does anyone have any ideas here? I used dselect to completely remove
>> the
>> libstd
I just installed CVS on my Debian box. I want to import a source tree of a
project I have been working on into it. I was able to do this, but it was
imported with the version number of 1.1.1.1. I would like to start over now
and somehow re-import in with the version number of 0.1. Could someone
Hello,
How would I force a newly created file by userA to have the permissions set
automatically to userB, groupB 775?
What I am trying to do is when a user uploads a file to our ftp server
(proftpd) it does not create the file using their username as the group and
owner of the newly created file
> I am trying to install a Debian testing box with root on RAID
> 1 following the instructions given at
> http://karaolides.com/computing/HOWTO/lvmraid/
I am working on setting up a system with this configuration. I decided to
work step by step with this howto to get my system running. Thanks
> When I ran vgcreate it seamed to work fine. However it lists
> the MAX LV Size as being 255.99GB. This does not make sense
> with my configuration. I have 5 SCSI disk partitions in a
> RAID5 array. Each partition is 36446.22mb. My math shows I
> should have a MAX LV size of being 145784.8
I am afraid that I will be kicked off of this list because of this silly
question.
But, I'm stumped, this could be because it's 12:31am and I'm tired. Here
goes:
I am creating a custom kernel for Debian Woody. For some reason I cannot
get my ethernet card to load as a module. I have done the f
> > The new kernel boots fine, but eth0 no longer can get an IP. lsmod
> > says that I have no modules loaded. I double checked to
> ensure that I
> > didn't build this into the kernel and I did! So I did the same
> > process a second time, same deal only this time I made sure that I
> > sp
See below for information. This is now solved. The problem was that I
didn't have CONFIG_FILTER compiled into my kernel. I don't get why this is
nessessary.
Thanks.
Michael
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Kahle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, Jan
I am not sure how to ask for what I want here. But, here goes. I was using
dump to make a backup of a directory on my computer. This was started from
a terminal in X. As it was running I could see in the terminal window all
the status output from the program. Good. This backup job took a long
> From: sean finney wrote:
> heya,
>
> i'd suggest either nohup or screen. the former is dirt
> simple but not very featureful, and the second is the opposite.
OK, I just installed screen, very cool program, but not what I am looking
for. I need to be able to run a program in a window. Then
> Screen acts as its own virtual terminal. You start screen from any
> terminal and it leaves you at a terminal prompt. Now you can
> do whatever
> you want (i.e. start your backup). From another terminal (ssh'd in or
> otherwise) you can cause that screen virtual terminal to be
> displayed on
Hello,
I am getting an error when upgrading my distribution to unstable...
dpkg-divert: 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender-1.1.so.1 by libxrender1' clashes with 'diversion
of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to
/usr/share/libxrender1.1/diversions/libXrender.so
>Michael Kahle wrote:
>> I am getting an error when upgrading my distribution to unstable...
>>
>> dpkg-divert: 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to
>> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender-1.1.so.1 by libxrender1' clashes with
>> 'diversion of
>>Michael Kahle wrote:
>>> I am getting an error when upgrading my distribution to unstable...
>>>
>>> dpkg-divert: 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to
>>> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender-1.1.so.1 by libxrender1' clashes with
>>&
James Strandboge wrote:
>On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 13:20, Michael Kahle wrote:
>> >Michael Kahle wrote:
>> >> I am getting an error when upgrading my distribution to unstable...
>> >>
>> >> dpkg-divert: 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrende
James Strandboge wrote:
>On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 16:28, Michael Kahle wrote:
>>>Did you have the gnome2.2 woody backport installed?
>>
>> Yes I did. I was runny woody. I then installed the backport at a
>> later date. I the decided to switch to testing.
>&g
I was using Woody for about a year on the machine I am writing to you from
now (well, actually I am writing to you inside VMWare on a machine running
debian...). Anyway, when running Mozilla from woody, every so often Mozilla
would stop responding. The same would also happen to Galeon. I then
in
Where do I configure entries into my routing table so that when I reboot
they exist the next session?
I am reading the Linux Networking HOWTO and this is 1) conspicuously absent
2) I am missing it or 3) when adding routes using the "route" command the
table that is updated automatically saves your
Thanks, but I figured it out... I found this posting:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200206/msg01961.html
michael
-Original Message-
From: Michael Kahle
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: route entries will not stick
Is the list running slow because of the MS Virus?
My message: "Subject: route entries will not stick" was sent on Wed
9/24/2003 @ 12:52pm CST it posted to the list on Friday 9/26/2003 @ ~11:00
CST. Then my reply, "Subject: RE: route entries will not stick" which I
sent on Friday 9/24/2003 @ 5:12
> Hello,
> I've just tried to view the PDF at
> http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg36.pdf (1.5MB)
> with xpdf. It works fine until page 12, when the system slows to a crawl.
> top tells me that XFree is using 75-80% CPU and xpdf is using most of the
> rest. I left it running for a couple of minut
I had a similar problem with an old gateway P150 with a Maxtor DiamondMax
80GB drive. I had to flash the bios and then everything worked right.
Still running Debian Woody as my file server.
Good luck.
Michael
-Original Message-
From: Burkhard Ritter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tues
I hope this isn't a silly question.
>From the Debian FAQ (http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html):
//snip
The kernel headers distributed with the kernel source are located in
/usr/include/linux/include/.
//snip
I used dselect to install the kernel-source-2.4.18 package and a ls of the
/
nate said:
>Hugh Saunders said:
>
>> but this just causes
>> INIT: id "8" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes
>> to be repeated on the console. so that is obviously not the way to do it,
>> any better ideas?
>
>probably because it cannot connect to the X server..
>
>you could try a shell scr
-Original Message-
From: Craig Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:21 PM
To: Debian User
Subject: Re: OT: Politics of Java
Craig Dickson wrote:
/* snip
>
>No, you haven't been smoking too much RMS. Java is not an open standard;
>it is controlled entir
Craig Dickson wrote:
>I know there are other compilers/tools for Java than Sun's, but that
>doesn't change the fact that the Java name is a Sun trademark and that
>Sun has never submitted the language to an independent standards body.
>Sun, all by themselves, defines what Java is and isn't.
>
>Crai
This post is going to be a bit vague, sorry.
I built the system using Woody, then 'upgraded' to testing on my
workstation. I use this as my primary computer here at work. At the end of
the day, when I go home, I lock X and take off. The next morning, the
system is frozen. I can't do anything b
Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
>On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 11:26, Michael Kahle wrote:
>> I built the system using Woody, then 'upgraded' to testing on my
>> workstation. I use this as my primary computer here at work. At the end
of
>> the day, when I go home, I lock X and t
Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
>
>I've heard of problems with locked screensavers in the past, and I
>wouldn't be surprised if that *could* be a problem, but what is more
>important is whether or not the system hangs at the same time each day
>(potential cron job problem - check the tail of the back logs.)
>
Osamu Aoki wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:23:04PM -0600, Michael Kahle wrote:
>> Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
>> >
>> >I've heard of problems with locked screensavers in the past, and I
>> >wouldn't be surprised if that *could* be a problem, but what is m
Seneca wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 04:28:17PM -0600, Michael Kahle wrote:
>> I hope this isn't a silly question.
>
>Most of the time, the only silly question is the one left unasked
>(trite, I know).
>
>> >From the Debian FAQ (http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/c
Dominic Iadicicco wrote:
>When I go to install Debian 3.0 from an iso cdrom that I
>downloaded I get an error when it comes time to install
>the kernal drivers: "The installation program couldn't
>find any directory containing the files rescue.bin, bf2.4/
>drivers.tgz." can anyone help me? -
//snip
Robert Ian Smit wrote:
> Putty looks to the uneducated user like a DOS-box. If you need
> graphical programs, I can't help you other than to say it's
> possible. Have a look at the HOWTOs wrt to X Window System and
> remote applications. For this to work, you will need to spend a
> reasonabl
[snip]
> I wouldn't bother with anything before workstation 4.
[end snip]
I used Workstation 3 for about a year before, just recently, upgrading to 4.
No problems with 3 at all...
Michael
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL
Does anyone know where I can find the ppa (HP "windows" printer drivers for
linux) website?
Here is the link that was on LDP's site, but I get a 404:
http://www.rpi.edu/~normat/technical/ppa/ The LDP documentation that I was
looking at is here (for refrence)
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/H
Michael Kahle wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can find the ppa (HP "windows"
> printer drivers for
> linux) website?
Never mind, I found it...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pnm2ppa/
Its now called pnm2ppa instead of pbm2ppa (unless of course that was a typo
on the Printin
I am trying to setup a ftp server on my company lan for a repository of g4u
created machine images. I have chosen to install wu-ftpd.
I cannot seam to get this to authenticate me. I have NOT setup anonymous
user access, I am only configuring this based on the guest access wu-ftpd
HOWTO:
http://w
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Kahle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: wu-ftpd woes
>
>
> I am trying to setup a ftp server on my company lan for a
> repository of g4u
> c
Has anyone had any experience running Woody on one of these VIA Eden
motherboards? I have a little project that I'm working on that I think this
form factor would be perfect for. I have seen some good reviews on these,
even some mentioning linux on them. Does anyone in the Debian crowd have
anyt
Greetings,
I hope you all can help me resolve my problem.
I am currently running Debian Sid on my computer. I have 3 SCSI drives in
it and I would like to add a fourth IDE drive to it. I have a 80 GB drive
that would be a great chunk-o-diskTM for me to store all kinds of goodies
on. I original
Dear all,
Thank you for the advise on adding the ide drive to my computer. I could
not get the ide drive to even recognize. After some monkey-ing around, I
decided to pull all the drives out of my computer and add 5 brand new 36GB
10,000 RPM 80pin SCSI drives to my computer. I printed out the S
> > > > In a moment of "ah-ha" I carefully removed two of the
> pressed on
> > > > connectors to the ribbon cables, and then just as carefully
> > > > pressed them back on with the help of a vice and a micrometer.
> > >=20
> > > Just for the record, may we know what brand of soda
> inspired th
> A few years ago, the big high-load PSU I'd just bought
> literally caught fire inside the server it was installed in,
> so I swapped the old, low-load, non-burning PSU back in and
> asked a friend to help me fix it. He was a better solderer
> than me, so he replaced a couple of power transis
I just got the cable and adapters I need to bring life back into
Geocentric.(1) 6x '80 to 68pin' SCSI adapters and a arms length SCSI 68pin
round cable to tie them all together. I must say, I pray too little. I
mount the 6 drives into the IBM Z-Pro chassis. Route the cables, attach the
adapters
Thanks to the both of you for your comments. My boss gave me the go ahead
to purchase a Hardware RAID controller. I figured this would be a more
robust solution that the Software RAID. Any suggestions on a brand? I am
going to install Debian Woody on this computer so ideally I would want the
co
>I didn't even bother installing the 3ware software that came with the card,
there is enough
>support built into the kernel to make it work just fine. Just remember
it's not /dev/hd?
>anymore, it's /dev/sd?.
The 3ware card is ATA RAID. I have SCSI disks in my system. I need a
hardware RAID car
Tom wrote:
> I think we as a plant need to play a fun game. For one
> week, everybody has to in a serious way act the opposite
> way of what they believe.
>
> Michael Moore and Al Franken need to be on TV fishing
> and talking bout shotguns. George Bush needs to lead
> an abortion rights mar
Has anyone tried installed Debian on a dual Opteron system? I am thinking
of building a new server based on this technology, any thoughts? Would I
use the IA64 branch?
Michael
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use Rsync to do this very thing. The only requirement you have, that I am
missing, is that the user of the workstation to be backed up has no say in
what gets backed up.
Check out the following documents:
http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php
http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/nt.html - Shows how to s
Greetings fellow Debianites,
Sorry, this may be a little long winded. For the past couple of days I have
been trying off and on to get the ALSA drivers setup on my Woody box.
The computer is a IBM Intellistation Z-Pro (6866-60U). Because I never had
sound installed on this machine, I never had
ject.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php3?company=ALi&card=
M1535%2CM1535D%2CM1535%2B%2CM1535D%2B&chip=M5451&module=ali5451
This worked perfectly. Thanks. I did already have myself added to that
group, I did not know that you have to log in and then log out in order to
notify the OS that you are
>Michael Kahle wrote:
>> I am not sure what you mean by the "--append-to-version" comment, I am
>> going to assume that this is something that make-kpkg does
>> automatically? When I built my kernel I did have to rename the
>> /lib/modules/ direct
I am wondering if anyone has any advice on a good linux web hosting
provider. I am looking to go with a reputable company at reasonable rates.
I would need anywhere from 6gb - 10gb / month bandwidth. Access to CGI bin
preferable, other nice features would be MySQL, perl, php, etc. Preferably
loc
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote:
> I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do
> it; there are lots of ways it can break.
I have heard this mentioned before. Could you elaborate? Why is this a
problem? Please excuse my inexperience here.
Michael
--
On Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:42 AM Colin Watson wrote:
>On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:19:29AM -0500, Michael Kahle wrote:
>> Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote:
>>> I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do
>>> it; the
Recently when starting my computer I was notified by the Adaptec SCSI BIOS
that my disk ID #4 was not starting up. This disk was failed. This disk is
part of the software raid array that I have setup on the machine.
When the kernel booted it notified me that it could not see the disk and as
a re
On Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:59 PM, Michael Kahle wrote:
> Recently when starting my computer I was notified by the Adaptec
> SCSI BIOS that my disk ID #4 was not starting up. This disk was
> failed. This disk is part of the software raid array that I have
> setup on the machine.
I am replacing my Debian workstation with a new machine. On my old
workstation I have been using a Matrox G400 video card that I have been
fairly happy with. One strange problem however. When booting into GDM and
then login into Gnome, the right hand monitor displays the desktop with wavy
lines,
I just built a system using the new debian-installer. Everything (almost)
worked fine, but the d-i installed the default kernel,
kernel-image-2.6.7-1-386. No problem. I just used aptitude to upgrade to
kernel-image-2.6.7-1-686-smp. I then updated my menu.1st file and grub and
rebooted. Everythi
> ghost for Windows can copy files in an partition
> exactly. is there any Linux programs similar to ghost?
You could also try g4u (Ghost for Unix)
http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
One nice feature is it allows a copy from partition to a ftp server then
back again.
Michael
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t
Hello Bradley,
Bradley Alexander wrote:
> I have just built a Sparc Ultra 2 with unstable and a locally
> compiled 2.6.3 kernel. I am trying to run openvpn, which requires use
> of the tun device. I set up /dev/net/tun as noted in the kernel
> documentation, but when I try to bring the device up
Hello. I recently built a 2.6.3 custom kernel for my debian/unstable
machine. I am using the unstable kernel-source package. When booting my
computer now I get a strange error:
cdrom: open failed.
cdrom: open failed.
cdrom: open failed.
cdrom: open failed.
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P
Oops... sends message in sucky outlook... sorry. See below
for the rest of my message...
-Original Message-
From: Michael Kahle
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:27 AM
To: Debian User List
Subject: boot error -> cdrom: open failed.?
Hello. I recently built a 2.6.3 custom kernel
Hi Roland,
On Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:59 AM Roland Dunn wrote:
> Having typed: "update-alternatives --config
> x-session-manager" and choosen GNOME, GNOME now
> starts up on reboot. I'd like it not to so that
> I can type "startx" when I want it to go into
> GNOME. How can I force it not to
On Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:12 PM, Richard Hoskins wrote:
> "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Incoming from Roland Dunn:
>>>
>>> Having typed: "update-alternatives --config x-session-manager" and
>>> choosen GNOME, GNOME now starts up on reboot. I'd like it not to so that
>>> I can t
On Monday, March 22, 2004 8:52 AM, Miroslav Maiksnar wrote:
>Dne po 22. března 2004 12:42 Cameron Hutchison napsal(a):
>> Once upon a time Miroslav Maiksnar said...
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> when installing vmware eval on my debian sarge I encounter problem
>>> compiling modules. Install scripts refuses to
Very cool. Thanks!
Michael
-Original Message-
From: Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: VMware installation problem
Hi there Michael,
Monday, March 22, 2004, 8:51:54 AM, you wrote:
>>Dne po 22. března 2004 12:42 C
I would like to setup a intermediary mail server that will filter email
coming in for spam and then reroute the "good" mail to my msexchange server.
Any suggestions on what I should use to do this?
I am currently thinking that I need to use exim as my mta and spamassassin
as my filtering program.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:32AM, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 10:46:24AM -0600, Michael Kahle wrote:
>| I would like to setup a intermediary mail server that will filter
>| email coming in for spam and then reroute the "good" mail to
> I'm trying to install woody on IBM xSeries 342 server with server raid
4lx,
Had the same problem tracking this down myself.
> does anybody have a working link to a driver disk (or can instruct me
> how to compile the module so it will load)?
This page got me started on the hunt:
http://people
On Friday, February 06, 2004 2:58 PM Isaac wrote:
>hello everyone,
hello
> I trying to install Debian 3 on a IBM Netfinity 5600 (8664-4RY)
> server. This server has a IBM serveraid card (i think it is a 4L but
> might be a 4P) with 4 scsi disks in raid5+spare configuration. This
> server is dual
I have a server that is dedicated to doing backups via Amanda. I have
recently purchased a Intel Pro 1000 Server adapter for this machine. To get
this adapter working, I rolled my own 2.6.2 kernel, but this introduced more
problems onto my Woody machine. The modutils package is deprecated for us
On Tuesday, April 06, 2004 Scott Bounds wrote:
> Hello all. I am new to this list and am glad to be here. I am also a
> real newbie with Debian. I just got a basic install done yesterday
> (after four tries). I guess I'm pretty dumb. Anyway, I have three
> SuperMicro SuperServers, Intel P4, In
Any help here would be wonderful. tar will not work on my tape drive!
Weirdness... Here is some background.
I recently purchased a new IBM TS2900 Autoloader:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/storage/tape/ts2900/index.html
I have hooked up this via an Adaptec SAS 58300:
http://www.adaptec.com/en-
Does anyone know if there is free software out there that acts as a gateway
to AOL IM, ICQ, and MSN IM, etc.?
I know about GAIM, but I would like one program that replaces them all.
Michael
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL
Once again, I answered my own question. GAIM seems to now be able to
do them all! :) Lucky me. But how about a similar program GPLed written
in Java?
"Michael Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is free software out there that acts as a
&g
Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bleah... why?
Why Java or why something other than Gaim?
If your question is the former, because I enjoy programing in Java.
If it's the latter, I can't answer that as I have never used it.
Michael
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:35:35 -0500
> "Michael Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if there is free software out there that acts as
> a
> > gateway to AOL IM, ICQ, and MSN IM, etc.?
> Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> Jabb
I have been using Debian Woody now for about 2 months. This is installed
on an old P5 166 w/ 64 mb of ram.
I made the decision today to install XFree86 with afterstep for a lightweight
window manager. I managed to get everything working fine, but when I
launch XConsole it won't let me put any in
uot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 18-Apr-2002 Michael Kahle wrote:
> > I have been using Debian Woody now for about 2 months. This is installed
> > on an old P5 166 w/ 64 mb of ram.
> >
> > I made the decision today to install XFree86 with afterstep fo
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:25:57PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 09:07:47PM +0200, Tinus Kotze wrote:
> > I converted my system to debian a while back and got the following problem.
> > I
> > can't receive/send messages while i can pretty much do anything else. I am
> >
I am seeing some strange behavior on my linux box. Any ideas.
I have a Samba share called 'share'. This is a mounted hard drive with
a ton of space that I place mp3's, pictures, files, etc... I use as a central
repository for all of my junk. If I type 'ls -al' I get the following
_partial_ lis
Hello,
I am currently building a new computer to replace my P150 overclocked to P166!
:) It's about time!
The system will run Debian GNU/Linux, so I want to ensure that the hardware
I go with will be compatable. You input is greatly appreciated.
Here are the specs:
Case: Enlight Full Tower (EN-
> What are you going to be using this machine for? This sounds like
> overoveroveroverkill for a desktop machine (and inappropriate for a
> server...). Save yourself a lot of money and just get IDE drives and use
> software RAID, if you really want it. Then again, I don't know anything
> about your
Tom,
> This is my impresseion also. In particular I wonder what use you
> could have for RAID 5, SCSI, tape backup, a Sound Blaster Audigy
> Platinum and an ATI All-in-Wonder on the same box. The first three
> are definite server-ware, while the last two (and maybe the DVD
> player) sound like y
88 matches
Mail list logo