Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS

2005-05-03 Thread Joel Rees
f many key positions to change this. do something! and please stop driveling! Stop trolling. -- Joel Rees Getting involved in the neighbor's family squabbles is dangerous. But if the abusive partner has a habit of shooting through his/her roof, the guy who lives upstairs is in a

Zoom conferencing

2020-02-29 Thread Joel Rees
(I hope no one gets upset about double posting debian and ubuntu users lists.) Questions about zoom -- www.zoom.us Anyone using it? Issues? Known reasons they don't put it in the general repositories?

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-28 Thread Joel Rees
inux kernel for a newbie to try to drown in. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iMy8NP6a0kVQgZ0QJVOV4K=t-0kbtgxbtsaxpuqjke...@mail.gmail.com

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 8/29/2013 12:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> (I really don't have time to do this.) >> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:17 PM, >>> >>> [Somebody replied to somebody, arguing that C can

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 8/29/2013 8:25 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> [...] > 3. Inheritance: the ability to extend an existing class, to provide > additional or different functionality via additional messages in the derived > class. Inheri

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-30 Thread Joel Rees
Sorry about posting this to you off-list, Lisi. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: >>> All worked perfectly as described. Accented characters are easi

Re: ASDF Ciril keyboard help

2013-08-30 Thread Joel Rees
login session as Russian or something similar. The keyboard should then be available as an option. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-30 Thread Joel Rees
know the process of reporting this I need to check, too. Haven't started reporting bugs here. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-08-31 Thread Joel Rees
ing functionally, but I'm not at all sold on it. Don't like lots of tool panes all over. It's part of the reason I can't quite bring myself to use either netbeans or eclipse regularly. gedit works well enough for me, even though I pretty much keep gnome off my system. -- Joe

Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
find that a lot of them depend on the gnome libraries. But you're not pulling in the entire desktop, by any means. Synaptic is pretty convenient about that. When you select for install, it will tell you which dependencies it's also pulling in, and then when you tell it to go ahead,

Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
s physical, 32 bits virtual which tells me I should be able to run PAE. (I am running PAE.) And, if the motherboard had enough address lines, I should be able to put in more than 2G of RAM, but the manual says just 2G. So, maybe not. Some things in there that might be worth a try if I

Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 9/2/13, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> On 9/1/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>>> On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 12:54 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >>>>

Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/1/2013 9:44 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Pascal Hambourg >> wrote: >>> Richard Owlett a écrit : >>>> Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So

Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-07 Thread Joel Rees
(I kind of hope this starts a flame war large enough to embarrass the corporate culprits into behaving themselves about this. Apologies in advance when I step on toes.) I was hoping that AMD was not going to have the license and non-visibility issue that plagues the Intel processor microcode updat

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
(Thanks for obliging, Henrik. ;-) On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 08:00:12AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> (1) This requires enabling two repositories that I have been avoiding >> enabling, contrib and non-free. That means I ha

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, Joel Rees wrote: >> I was hoping that AMD was not going to have the license and >> non-visibility issue that plagues the Intel processor microcode >> updates. But I find this original a

Re: Security?

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
h God, by whatever name you call That Ultimate Entity, because that's going to be your only help in the end. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: Security?

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:53 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:27 AM, wrote: >> > Hello list. >> > What do you think about it? >> > >> > https://www.schneier.com/blog

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
er their names right off-hand, don't seem to have them loaded in my system, either. Looking up BigInt led me to them in the past. > Thanks and Regards, > Balamurugan R There is a C newsgroup that would likely be more helpful. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43in8lha-8ihc642pwybxpqdyfw39dchapbua+hqvsbv...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Balamurugan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have an issue in printing a large number in a c program. Please find below >> the code snippet : >> >> #include >> >> int main

Re: Security?

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 12:20:44PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> There is one ultimate reality, and it knows all the prime factors of >> all the keys. If your god is not that ultimate reality, get a better >> Go

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Dom wrote: > On 09/09/13 07:21, Joel Rees wrote: > > >> >> Not sure why neither man -k nor whereis can find float.h, but it compiles >> okay. > > > dom@oz:~$ locate float.h > /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.6/include/float.h &g

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
eful, the newspapers will have you hating the people > who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the > oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNbLjv0=7g3t6-JNK=4preqlqu4hq2h+atcfs4-3br...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
DEC_EVAL_METHOD Can't seem to turn this loose. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Dom wrote: >> On 09/09/13 07:21, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Not sure why neither man -k nor whereis can find float.

Re: ca-certificates

2013-09-10 Thread Joel Rees
although they have subverted some of the constants currently in use. I assume there are a number of infrastructure team members checking that the mitigations currently in use are sufficient. But for your present question, we need more information to be able to respond with anything more meaningful than my

Re: Security?

2013-09-11 Thread Joel Rees
e straddled the border between appropriate and excessive paranoia. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org A

Re: UI lag in 7.0 on Dell Precision T3500

2013-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
ht be of use? https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/07/msg00755.html It's some slowness problems I had with xfce. Seems to have been due to the wrong acceleration method specified in the X11 configuration. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your ow

Re: One-Stop Debian Box Config Tool: Call for Collaborators!

2013-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
ly wanting to be a wet blanket, but your goals are way too big. (And you aren't the first to suggest the idea, so you can look at the successes and failures of past efforts to get some idea of why you're going to get a lot of resistance on this idea.) I do keep thinking it would be nice

Julia language

2013-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
. No, I don't have a particular application in mind, it just looks rather interesting, but I keep postponing building it on my machines, and I'm thinking about building it from source tonight on my 32 bit box. Be nice to have some heads-ups. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspir

Re: Sound problems on Wheezy upgrade

2013-09-15 Thread Joel Rees
mute button and clicked that to un-mute. I should have tried un-muting from the command line, I think. I think the problem is that, after the upgrade, it ends up defaulting to muted, and somehow the default GUI controls decide not to give you access to the master sound control. -- Joel Rees Be

Re: NOT QUITE: headphones still don't work.

2013-09-17 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:32:50 +0100, Klaus wrote: > >> [ various stuff about a bug a lot of us seem to be experiencing.] Has anyone filed a bug on this? -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in yo

Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-20 Thread Joel Rees
nize the two cursors, how you expect to tell the app which is for what, etc. If the latter, you might launch your copy of the gimp (or photoshop) and check the cloning function to see one example of where an app remembers one cursor location for use at another. (And other suggestions have already b

Re: any way to get the mouse position on two places on the screen?

2013-09-20 Thread Joel Rees
second one in order to calculate the rectangular >> viewing area on a screen (showing a video))? >> ~ > > I think this is just another case of the XY problem. The first thought is, as in coordinates. 8-* > http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=542341 > > Kind regards, > An

Re: access please

2013-09-21 Thread Joel Rees
gt; efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ > efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/ > Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.1.2 > Registered Linux user 334501 -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Building computer

2013-09-26 Thread Joel Rees
any years I've been > AMD only and don't tend to keep up with Intel's offerings. Stan, joking aside, are there any AMD processors you would recommend for doing kernel and driver level Android/ARM development in a VM? How likely would I be to find such a processor in a netbook or lapto

Re: Building computer

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner >>> wrote: >>>> On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze

Re: Building computer - power supplies

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
wer supplies that were way noisier than your common marginal design switching PS. ) The problem (for anyone reading who is not aware of this) is not switching vs. linear, it's the sales and manufacturing practices encouraged by stingy boards of directors. > --Doug, retired electronic en

Re: Building computer - power supplies

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
reating multiple blogs was to separate them by purpose.) -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org A

Re: systemd plans

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
t; > And FreeBSD'll switch to launchd and Vadim'll switch to Windows 9. :) And I thought Windows 9 was scheduled to be yet another fork of freebsd ... (Sigh, I needed to try harder.) -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. --

Re: Can't create folder on empty partition - suspect permission issue

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
even or eight years, if I remember right. In the meantime, synaptic and others essentially go through su or sudo and pop up a dialog asking for your root or admin password. And I avoid those dialogs by running the tools sudo from the command line in my admin account and avoiding using them in m

Re: duplicate emails

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
ail (2.1510) and iPad Mail > (11A465). I'm willing to test it using an iPad I own and try to find out > what the problem might be, but unfortunately Linux ad-hoc doesn't work, > so I can't test. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart.

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
flag the irony. 8-o But we have to use irony markup or smileys to make sure it's understand in e-mail, {irony}which takes all the fun out of it{irony/}. :-| -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-28 Thread Joel Rees
up slow and comes up to speed out of order, the names change. For instance, you have three ATA disks attached in a certain order. They would usually be given the spin-up command in the order they are attached, and they would usually spin up in the same order. If, for some reason, they spin up

Re: Re (2): Can't create folder on empty partition - suspect permission issue

2013-09-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 9:49 AM, wrote: > From: Joel Rees > Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:05:33 +0900 >> ... make all the users that write to it [a folder] members of the group. > > If you don't object to the question, would those users tend to be > people or project

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-09-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Regid Ichira wrote: > On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:29:35 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Regid Ichira wrote: >> > On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:06:43 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> As I said,

Re: Building computer - power supplies

2013-09-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Doug wrote: > On 09/28/2013 03:23 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 9/27/2013 6:37 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner >>> wrote: >>>> A point I forgot to make. This is something everyo

Building a computer for compiling and CPU emulation (Re: Building computer)

2013-09-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/27/2013 6:03 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner >>> wrote: >>>> On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >

Re: Building computer - power supplies

2013-09-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Doug wrote: > On 09/29/2013 06:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Doug wrote: > /snip/ >>> >>> Do I understand correctly that there are two switching power supply >>> chips at the input to the CPU t

Re: groupadd -R problem

2013-10-01 Thread Joel Rees
nitialization that would have to be done first has not been done. man -k chroot and then man the manual entries listed to read more about setting up a jail. Check the references at the bottom of each man page. It may take an hour or two to figure out the difference between what you were trying t

Re: Building a computer for compiling and CPU emulation (Re: Building computer)

2013-10-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/29/2013 6:01 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > ... >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_mobile_microprocessors >> >> tells me that AMD A4-1250, AMD A6-1450, and E2-1800 all have AMD-V. >> >> The E2-1800

Re: Multiplicity of accounts; was, "Can't create folder on empty partition ..."

2013-10-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 2:50 PM, wrote: > * From: Joel Rees > * Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 02:39:26 +0900 >> ... your personal >> computer needs at least an admin user (besides root) and a personal >> user for general tasks and a personal user for bank access, e

Re: Re (2): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/2/2013 12:24 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: >> >> From: Joel Rees >> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:30:26 +0900 >>> >>> [...] > >>> And accessing your bank logged in as the same user

Re: Re (2): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-04 Thread Joel Rees
Should I add to the confusion? On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/3/2013 8:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Jerry Stuckle >> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/2/2013 12:24 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: >>>

Re: Re (3): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-04 Thread Joel Rees
ame up when I did a Google search on "linux malware". -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@list

Re: Re (3): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-04 Thread Joel Rees
void swear words or the names of deity, especially words that you tend to use regularly. Memes, you see. > Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: Re (2): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-04 Thread Joel Rees
Not top posting, just prefacing my comments: Are we trying to educate the list in cracking techniques or in ways to manage and mitigate the vulnerabilities? On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > On 10/4/2013 5:10 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> Should I add to t

Re: Re (2): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/4/2013 9:25 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> Not top posting, just prefacing my comments: >> >> Are we trying to educate the list in cracking techniques or in ways to >> manage and mitigate the vulnerabilit

[OT] Jerry's in a good mood today (Multiplicity of accounts.)

2013-10-06 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/5/2013 12:43 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jerry Stuckle >> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/4/2013 9:25 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>&

Re: [OT] Trim your posts. (was ... Re: ...)

2013-10-06 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 07:46:11PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > [Dunno, tl:dr] You're right about that. > How about taking time to trim your posts instead of allowing them to > build into an unreadable mess. Hard t

sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-11 Thread Joel Rees
g able to build internet terminals that people can use as simply as they use a phone, and it's quite possible that it can't really be done. But, yeah, if you are using apt-get or aptitude (or even synaptic) to maintain the software on your debian box, you are already performing the wor

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-13 Thread Joel Rees
. (Well, there are a few more things you want to get down, too. Permissions basics, basics of TCP-IP, SSH and such, but you generally pick those up while you're learning how to install the system and packages.) -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-13 Thread Joel Rees
to this thread is that I tend to think of it as a good thing when people start taking responsibility for their own computing/communicating equipment. Thus it was my intent to encourage the guy who started the original thread to keep thinking of himself as the guy in charge of his hardware. -- Joe

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-13 Thread Joel Rees
) own hardware that doesn't have a system administrator, you need to fix that situation. Maybe it means you need to step into the role. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: ukash hijacked iceweasel

2013-10-13 Thread Joel Rees
heir menus turned off? (Edit menu -> Preferences -> Contents tab -> disable JavaScript. Or am I missing something here?) -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-13 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Joel Rees wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM, wrote: >>> >>> [...] if you think that people are free to >>> give themselves the label they want, so you must accept that other are >

Linux Professional Institute Certification (Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude))

2013-10-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM, wrote: > Le 13.10.2013 14:41, Joel Rees a écrit : > >> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 6:21 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Le 11.10.2013 23:06, Brian a écrit : >>>> >>>> >>>> "are you root?" >>&

hibernate gone?

2013-10-15 Thread Joel Rees
Since the point release over the weekend, neither of my debian boxes (32 bit AMDx86 and 64 bit Intel Atomizer) seem to be hibernating. Is everybody else seeing this? -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: XFCE is slow on Acer One netbook - suggestions?

2013-10-17 Thread Joel Rees
) do not solve the pain of choosing a "good enough" > desktop environment for Debian Wheezy. > > TIA > > Helmut Wollmersdorfer > > -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@l

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-20 Thread Joel Rees
d 130K in debian, and run easily in a 1M or so of run-time. And, again, the output you describe above is pretty straightforward formatting. > -- > Thanks & Best Regrads! > > Nicol TAO (taozhijiang) > > Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, P.R. China 518055 > > Being Stronger!!! And r

Re: Blacklisting threads

2013-10-20 Thread Joel Rees
blacklist them in advance, so that I do not > have to see them at all. That I have not succeeded in doing with > threads. (I've never wanted to before!) > > Lisi Was the sysadmin qualifications subthread that turned into a warstory fest that disgusting? -- Joel Rees Be careful whe

hold on google chrome (wheezy 32 bit)

2013-10-20 Thread Joel Rees
range impossible to clear dependency set up. Searching google only brings up last June's hold that was caused by wheezy going stable. Anybody else got this hold? If so, are you just waiting it out or have you picked some way to deal with it? -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy.

Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output

2013-10-21 Thread Joel Rees
; While that's a reasonable question to ask for most jobs, I > suspect that the poster is developing (or developing on) an > embedded system with extremely limited storage space. > > -dsr- Yeah, the format he showed looks like the target might even use 16 bit addressing. Abou

Re: Blacklisting threads

2013-10-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 20 October 2013 12:33:55 Joel Rees wrote: >> Was the sysadmin qualifications subthread that turned into a >> warstory fest that disgusting? > > That tedious. It was/is getting broken all the time, thus gett

Re: errant mouse-over behaviour.

2013-10-22 Thread Joel Rees
red it, the problem > still remains. > > Thanks > Sharon. I'll get this kind of sticking with my netbook. Trackpad and mouse together seem to conflict. But usually unplugging the mouse and plugging it in a different port will clear the problem. (I suppose I should see if there is

Re: Start Synaptic with user password (NOT root password)

2013-10-23 Thread Joel Rees
sitting on the > machine to have sudo on _that_ machine. Should I report a bug? Is there a > easy way to change this configuration for all machines quickly? > > Thanks Something like this help? sudo synaptic -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-10-26 Thread Joel Rees
writing a little php, that got my back up. But satisfying my ego is not going to put bread on my family's table. I have more important things to do. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.de

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-10-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/26/2013 1:12 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Zenaan Harkness >> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/26/13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> [...] >>>> >

Re: Hosting advice

2013-11-01 Thread Joel Rees
in I was using is now "premium". When my financial stuff settles down again, I'm probably going to become a paying customer at dyn. They do registrar stuff for the common top-level domains too, now. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -

Re: Hosting advice

2013-11-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/1/2013 4:27 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Craig L. wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Joel Rees
quot;Shutdown -h" becomes "systemctl halt" or some such. apachectl stop/start/graceful, etc.? Now arcane parameters to the systemctl stop/start/? service-something-or-other. Arcane parameters to systemctl's new, undocumented (man pages way behind) commands and parameters. The only

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Joel Rees
the permissions. Sometimes, software just assumes that any time the system refuses to write it's that the disk is full. Then you should check whether you've set quotas up. In Java, there would be policies to check. And so forth. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look f

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-05 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Tazman Deville wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:34:37AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> [...] >> The first thing that I check when I get disk full errors but the disks >> are not full is the permissions. And the second thing should be the

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-10 Thread Joel Rees
g. Those guys really do help, and they really do listen, all they while they are arguing with you. The systemd crowd, no. It's about control. (Yeah, the init scripts need work. But you don't solve the problems of different ways to juice fruit by forcing apples and oranges and doria

Re: testing wants to install systemd

2013-11-20 Thread Joel Rees
ian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724731 > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/10/msg01998.html > > (Are you trolling?!) Sorry to be obtuse, Tom, but what's your point? -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: testing wants to install systemd

2013-11-20 Thread Joel Rees
deconstruction of his arguments, and I don't have time for that. Systemd offers a framework. If Lennart had not been so insistent that everyone had to test his baby now, on their production systems, we might have had time to refine the framework as a community. As it is, I'm not as opti

Re: testing wants to install systemd

2013-11-20 Thread Joel Rees
rep approach allowed some flexibility in log generation. With systemd, logs will be required to conform, or be unsearchable. Or you could also use grep anyway, as long as the logs remain text based. If you happen to know what the new logs look like in the part you need to look up. -- Joel Rees

Re: MIT discovered issue with gcc

2013-11-23 Thread Joel Rees
This time around, maybe it's a new generation of sophomoric programmers, or maybe we have moles in our ranks. The sky is not falling, but it sounds like I don't want to waste my time with Clang yet. And I probably need to go make myself persona non-grata again in some C language forums

Re: MIT discovered issue with gcc

2013-11-23 Thread Joel Rees
nothing at all new. The holy grail of optimization has been known to induce undefined behavior in compiler writers since way before B or even Algol. The guys responsible for optimization sometimes forget that falsifying an argument is not falsifying the conclusion, among other things. >

Re: MIT discovered issue with gcc

2013-11-23 Thread Joel Rees
size, mass copying, and going back and overwriting the members that are subject to issues like deep copy. Remember that memcpy() is able to copy an odd number of bytes, so the size calculation contains a bit more than is obvious to the programmer.) -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see cons

Re: MIT discovered issue with gcc

2013-11-23 Thread Joel Rees
at even the default optimization level. And I remember one that definitely does, although I don't remember where I put the code where I played with it. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: MIT discovered issue with gcc

2013-11-28 Thread Joel Rees
t level of optimization. > What about adding cppcheck warnings and gcc -Wall -pedantic be added to > Lintian? > > Or what about changing debhelper to pass some -f flags by default? I'm thinking the standards committee needs some fresh blood. It's well past time for the stand

Re: MIT discovered issue with gcc

2013-11-28 Thread Joel Rees
Ick. On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Wade Richards wrote: >> [...] > I'm taking a course in embedded programming at the local employment > training center to "brush up" on skills I never lost, for reasons that &g

Re: Suggestions? A small webserver for file upload

2014-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/28 0:06 "Ron Leach" : > > On 27/09/2014 15:35, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> >> Joel Rees wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Ron Leach wrote: >>>> >>>> List, good afternoon, >>>> >>>>

funny text in bash history

2014-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
e partition with the box off-line tonight and check things carefully. Joel Rees Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens. All is a stream of text flowing from the past into the future.

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
ot huge fan of cloud based services either. :) Ric > I think you missed Lee's point. Moral justification is not the only reason to want people to work together with. Joel Rees Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens. All is a stream of text flowing from the past into the future.

Re: funny text in bash history

2014-09-28 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/28 20:17 "Cindy-Sue Causey" : > > On 9/27/14, Joel Rees wrote: > > Booted this morning, started my usual pattern of bringing the appropriate > > apt-get commands up from history. (I'm lazy, okay?) > > > > Had a bunch of unicode proxies and

Re: funny text in bash history

2014-09-28 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/28 20:40 "The Wanderer" : > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 09/28/2014 at 07:17 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > > On 9/27/14, Joel Rees wrote: > > > >> Booted this morning, started my usual pattern of bring

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-29 Thread Joel Rees
7;t think anyone had a problem with the concepts around > > microkernel. The problem is that nobody in the Free Software community > > could write a decent microkernel. > > NetBSD's "anykernel" and DragonFlyBSD's "hybrid" kernel designs could > be c

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Joel Rees
gt; > > And does that apply to folks who use every post to whine about topics they don't want other people to talk about? > Thank you, Miles. Although I'm afraid those who have been whining about the anti-systemd noise won't really be able to see that that is what they've been doing. Joel Rees Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens. All is a stream of text flowing from the past into the future.

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-30 Thread Joel Rees
ssed before the package is reintroduced to unstable. > Unfortunately, since the bugs were "auto-closed" by the fcron removal, we > have to go over all of them and reopen those that would still apply. > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;src=fcron;dist=unstable > Should I use this as my excuse to actually join the dev team, in spite of my misgivings about systemd and the API creep? Is your third going to need to run jessie with systemd? How much and what kind of hardware/OS resources does he or she need to be able to bring to the table? Joel Rees Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens. All is a stream of text flowing from the past into the future.

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