Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

2016-06-24 Thread Jape Person
On 06/24/2016 06:11 PM, Matthias J. Sax wrote: Hi, I am new to Debian mailing-list (and also not subscribed -- please answer directly to me if you need more input). I am using $ uname -a Linux XXX 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2 (2016-04-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux After the last update,

Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

2016-06-24 Thread Jape Person
On 06/24/2016 07:19 PM, Maureen L Thomas wrote: Hi guys, I have noticed the same thing. As I am going through emails and putting them in the folders I want It will just close out. It only happens once in a while though so I didn't think much or it. Moe Hi, Moe. I found what appears to be

Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

2016-06-24 Thread Jape Person
Hi, Matthias. Just in case you haven't subscribed to the list, I'm writing back to let you know another person besides confirmed that she is seeing this problem. Unless she used BCC she doesn't seem to have copied you. That's the norm for this list. It's just easier to subscribe in order to g

Debian Testing, Icedove and Xombrero Startup Issues Following Updates of 08/09/2016

2016-08-09 Thread Jape Person
I have three virtually identical (software installation-wise) systems running testing. Two of the systems run the i386 image, the third system runs an amd64 image. This morning following a rather huge set of updates (List can be supplied, if actually needed.) I could no longer run Icedove or

Stretch System Stops Boot Process Immediately After Grub Screen

2016-10-22 Thread Jape Person
I've got a little Panasonic CF-R3 mini-laptop which has been kept fully up-to-date in testing every day since Etch was released. (I think the original installation is that old.) I've been using the linux-image-686-pae kernel on the system. The updates today included an update to linux-image-4

Re: Stretch System Stops Boot Process Immediately After Grub Screen

2016-10-23 Thread Jape Person
On 10/23/2016 01:03 PM, Michael Lange wrote: On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:14:39 -0400 "James P. Wallen" wrote: Double checked to see if I was right about the video subsystem. It is not ATI, it is Intel integrated. No docs on this thing. It was never officially sold in U.S., where I live currently. S

Re: Stretch System Stops Boot Process Immediately After Grub Screen

2016-10-23 Thread Jape Person
On 10/23/2016 01:21 PM, Børge Holen wrote: I have to use the nomodeset from time to time where the f*** gfx card has unresolved issues with itself. Atleast it lets me boot to a prompt. Now thinking of it, I have no blinking cursor, I just get a black screen... So different issue all together and

Re: Stretch System Stops Boot Process Immediately After Grub Screen

2016-10-23 Thread Jape Person
On 10/23/2016 01:33 PM, Felix Miata wrote: James P. Wallen composed on 2016-10-23 12:14 (UTC-0400): On 10/22/2016 18:10 (UTC-0400), Jape Person wrote: It's confusing to see a response from a different person writing as if he was responding to himself. The confusion is caused by my id

Re: Stretch System Stops Boot Process Immediately After Grub Screen

2016-10-23 Thread Jape Person
On 10/23/2016 04:47 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Jape Person composed on 2016-10-23 14:33 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: Does the same thing happen booting the previous kernel (4.6?)? Nope. The problem occurred on the first reboot after the upgrade from 4.7.6-1 to 4.7.8-1. The upgrade process

Re: Stretch System Stops Boot Process Immediately After Grub Screen

2016-10-23 Thread Jape Person
On 10/23/2016 05:26 PM, Frank wrote: Op 23-10-16 om 22:47 schreef Felix Miata: I don't remember having any Stretch installations with fewer than two installed kernels. The currently booted one, originally installed 51 weeks ago, has 6 installed. I've yet to discover any doc suggesting anything a

Re: Stretch System Stops Boot Process Immediately After Grub Screen (me too!)

2016-11-03 Thread Jape Person
On 11/03/2016 03:26 PM, Mike Conde wrote: Have you checked your boot partition - does it have enough free space? I don't have a separate boot partition, just one main partition that is 40GB in capacity and 40% full. Sorry to see that you're having this problem. I'm stymied as to why it might

hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-18 Thread Jape Person
Hi. I'm getting ready to replace all of our old equipment that has been used for well over a decade in our home network. I decided to try to do everything with FOSS -- open source Luxul router, open-source-only drivers for everything on the libreboot PCs. But I've run into a snag with the pr

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
On 11/19/2016 06:48 AM, Brian wrote: You've probably seen http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/combined.html so can match up your requirement with what is on the market from HP. It does appear to be limited but your choice could be widened by including inkjet printers in the

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
On 11/19/2016 09:30 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Jape Person wrote: What about hplip? Doesn't inclusion of the hp-setup program in hplip sort of violate the spirit of having only FOSS in the main repository when executing No, it doesn't violate

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
On 11/19/2016 10:55 AM, Brian wrote: It was sub-thread of another thread. Starts here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/10/msg01016.html Thanks. I think I get the idea, but I'll read that to see if I can get myself educated a little better. Why is it important for the printer t

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
On 11/19/2016 11:31 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2016, Brian wrote: I'd like to know that, too. I need a new home color printer, my 10-year-old HP PhotoSmart (blobless) MFP has finally broken down and good second-hand parts are not easy to find in Brazil :-( Why is it

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
On 11/19/2016 02:47 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 13:16:57 -0500, Jape Person wrote: On 11/19/2016 10:55 AM, Brian wrote: Why is it important for the printer to be blobless? Look at it this way: A printer is choc-a-bloc full of firmware. None of this firmware is accessible to a

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-19 Thread Jape Person
On 11/19/2016 03:09 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 13:21:23 -0500, Jape Person wrote: On 11/19/2016 11:31 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2016, Brian wrote: I'd like to know that, too. I need a new home color printer, my 10-year-old HP PhotoSmart (blobless

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-11-20 Thread Jape Person
My apologies. Accidentally replied using another e-mail address from our business. I'm resending from the proper account, jap...@comcast.net. On 11/20/2016 02:52 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 16:38:20 -0500, Jape Person wrote: On 11/19/2016 03:09 PM, Brian wrote: Sorry

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-02 Thread Jape Person
On 11/30/2016 10:57 AM, do...@mail.com wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:34:03 -0500 Jape Person wrote: Hi. I'm getting ready to replace all of our old equipment that has been used for well over a decade in our home network. I decided to try to do everything with FOSS -- open source Luxul r

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-02 Thread Jape Person
On 12/02/2016 06:25 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, December 03, 2016 12:19:09 AM Doug wrote: On 11/30/2016 09:57 AM, do...@mail.com wrote: Beware of HP inkjets, HP recently had to change the code so that people could install ink cartridges that were not HP's and no, refilling the ol

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Jape Person
Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additions to the thread. Unfortunately, a) I use POP3 and download all my mail immediately from the server, b) my neighbor's Maine Coon cat, Mr. Potay-Toes, just vis

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2016 02:20 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additions to the thread. Unfortunately, a) I use POP3 and dow

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye -- that there were two recent additio

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2016 07:32 PM, Fred wrote: On 12/03/2016 01:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the thread because I saw -- out of the corner of my eye --

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/04/2016 09:55 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, December 04, 2016 06:50:17 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 20:14:21 Jape Person wrote: I have a horrible time reading this stuff through a browser interface. Yes, sorry. :-( I have a horrible time with archives

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/04/2016 01:50 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 19 Nov 2016 at 16:14:45 -0500, Jape Person wrote: On 11/19/2016 02:47 PM, Brian wrote: You have this one definite requirement and will have to firm up what else you definitely want. I'll mention the HP OfficeJet Pro 8720 All-in-One Printer.

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/05/2016 06:35 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 12/03/2016 12:36 PM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/03/2016 03:20 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Dec 2016 at 19:20:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 03 December 2016 18:09:50 Jape Person wrote: Hi, I'm replying to myself at the top of the t

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-06 Thread Jape Person
On 12/06/2016 06:50 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 06 December 2016 02:51:33 Jape Person wrote: Yes, I know I can tell some browsers to give me light text on a dark background, but that never works as well as the control I have in my mail client. Out of interest, which do you use? I need a

Re: hplip and use of the "driver plugin"

2016-12-07 Thread Jape Person
On 12/07/2016 02:52 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 07/12/16 14:42, Jape Person wrote: I'll never forget hearing someone trying to prop an early version of Netscape up by saying that it was a good browser *because* it failed on badly written pages. It shouldn't crash, of course, but I

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Jape Person
On 01/01/2017 07:38 PM, Joel Rees wrote: I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner still isn't being found. Running Wheezy. Would anyone care to tell me what steps they took to get scan functionality

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-01 Thread Jape Person
On 01/01/2017 09:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2017 20:31:00 Jape Person wrote: On 01/01/2017 07:38 PM, Joel Rees wrote: I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner still

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-02 Thread Jape Person
On 01/02/2017 07:25 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 02 Jan 2017 at 02:05:47 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 02 January 2017 00:51:11 Jape Person wrote: On 01/01/2017 09:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: For a far less secure way than I do it. For a far less secure way than you do what? Scanning

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-02 Thread Jape Person
On 01/02/2017 06:50 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon 02 Jan 2017 at 10:55:06 -0500, Jape Person wrote: In the end, voting with my dollars accomplished nothing for the FOSS community, because I simply couldn't find a functional equivalent that was free all the way. After a while I just got tired o

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-02 Thread Jape Person
On 01/02/2017 07:16 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon 02 Jan 2017 at 09:38:24 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: I got a Brother printer to work by installing both the debian packages from the repos and the deb from Brother's website, but the scanner still isn't being found. Any progress on this? Which device is

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-02 Thread Jape Person
Hi, Joel. Just to clear up a point of confusion (mine) -- when you say you got those debs (brscan4, etc.) from the repos, do you mean Debian repositories? I don't see anything like that there. If you're referring to Ubuntu repos, then that's another matter. I can't (won't) use those with a D

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-04 Thread Jape Person
On 01/04/2017 11:27 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 02 Jan 2017 at 22:11:26 -0500, Jape Person wrote: On 01/02/2017 06:50 PM, Brian wrote: Could be. The license for printer and scanner drivers says you can modify, alter, translate, reproduce and distribute their software. Sounds good. Doesn't D

Re: brother printer/scanners

2017-01-04 Thread Jape Person
On 01/04/2017 01:57 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 04 Jan 2017 at 13:19:43 -0500, Jape Person wrote: On 01/04/2017 11:27 AM, Brian wrote: Some manufacturers, HP and Epson, for example, integrate their scanner software and co-operate with SANE developers; Brother don't seem to, although they do

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

2017-02-16 Thread Jape Person
On 02/16/2017 03:40 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 17/02/17 01:31, Benjamin Rochefort wrote: I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's config editor. +1. I had terrible problems with icedov

Re: Crashes in Icedove on Stretch

2017-02-16 Thread Jape Person
On 02/16/2017 06:11 PM, Benjamin Rochefort wrote: Le 2017-02-16 à 15:20, Paul van der Vlis a écrit : Op 16-02-17 om 13:31 schreef Benjamin Rochefort: I think I fixed the random Icedove crashes I was experiencing on Jessie by setting layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled to false in Icedove's

Re: OT: *FREE* VPN! Why?

2015-08-06 Thread Jape Person
On 08/06/2015 09:45 AM, Bob Bernstein wrote: I became curious about the recent vpn thread here, and went browsing around the 'net. I was staggered (well, not really, that's just an expression, right?) to see the huge number of ventures offering free vpn. I know what vpn is, and what it does, and

Re: OT: *FREE* VPN! Why?

2015-08-06 Thread Jape Person
On 08/06/2015 11:22 AM, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Jape Person wrote: I could jump through all the hoops I wanted to, but using my ISP-provided e-mail account (even with encrypted contents and directed through a VPN) for communications with people at risk would be laughable

Re: OT: *FREE* VPN! Why?

2015-08-06 Thread Jape Person
On 08/06/2015 02:28 PM, Mike Castle wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Jape Person wrote: Brings up another point. I've always wondered how the sticky fingers crowd could manage all the key-presses necessary for arranging proper security. One handed Dvorak keyboard mappings. mrc

Re: CD DVD drive docs

2015-08-22 Thread Jape Person
On 08/22/2015 04:10 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Ah, a proxy-head then :-/ As a true Debian Developer he did not know any fear. No lock function and no open(2) flag is really safe. Hm. That's interesting... Note well that it is about device files, not data files. I documented our def

Re: Burn problems. Was: CD DVD drive docs

2015-08-22 Thread Jape Person
On 08/22/2015 12:31 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, hours and hours of extra time spent each week trying to write images or backups that just fail during the burn attempt with no error messages that a mere non-programmer like me can understand. Ok. Take a deep breath and then let's go to the wo

Re: Burn problems.

2015-08-22 Thread Jape Person
On 08/22/2015 01:56 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, I guess you're more interested in the failures than in the successes. Heh. Current stage of the procedure is to collect info. Success is as welcome as failure. If you can fulfill all your needs by xorriso runs, then i will be glad. Neverthe

Re: get software list of one software repository

2015-09-04 Thread Jape Person
On 09/04/2015 12:11 PM, Curt wrote: On 2015-09-04, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: Just for kicks, I ran Lisi's suggested "cat" command on the file. OUCH, MY EYES! MAJOR flicker rate warning goes with if anyone else tries it... Maybe it's better to skin that cat with less. ROFLMAO!

Re: systemd-logind emitting messages

2015-09-04 Thread Jape Person
On 09/03/2015 10:40 PM, David Niklas wrote: Hello, I forget who asked how to copy lines from their terminal (Alt-F0-9), and I know how and thought I'd share. Use gpm. On my system it's shift left-mouse to highlight and shift right-mouse to paste to your prompt. you cant then echo the output to a

A stop job is running for...

2015-11-30 Thread Jape Person
Make remote CUPS printers available locally Network Time Synchronization For several weeks I've been seeing this stop job notification for these two items frequently when rebooting or shutting down two of my four testing systems. The first notification counts all the way up to 1 min 30 sec be

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-02 Thread Jape Person
On 12/02/2015 06:06 AM, Martin Read wrote: The default and per-service timeout values for stopping a service (after which systemd gives up and sends fatal signals to all of the service's processes) are configurable; see the systemd-system.conf(5) and systemd.service(5) man pages for details.

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-02 Thread Jape Person
On 12/02/2015 10:49 AM, David Wright wrote: On Wed 02 Dec 2015 at 11:06:09 (+), Martin Read wrote: On 02/12/15 03:07, James P. Wallen wrote: Thanks for your response, Sven. It's nice to know that someone else has seen this type of problem. I was thinking that this could be self-inflicted. P

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-02 Thread Jape Person
On 12/02/2015 12:17 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 02.12.2015 um 18:05 schrieb Jape Person: On 12/02/2015 10:49 AM, David Wright wrote: I have observed behaviour where, when the time limit of 90 seconds is reached, the limit increases by another 90 seconds and nothing else happens (for hours). eg

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-02 Thread Jape Person
On 12/02/2015 01:21 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2015 06:06:09 Martin Read wrote: On 02/12/15 03:07, James P. Wallen wrote: Thanks for your response, Sven. It's nice to know that someone else has seen this type of problem. I was thinking that this could be self-inflicted. P

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-02 Thread Jape Person
On 12/02/2015 02:04 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 02.12.2015 um 18:58 schrieb Jape Person: On 12/02/2015 12:17 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: In case you run into such a situation again, where a service is blocking the shutdown you can of course just use force and pull the plug or use sysrq b. But

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-02 Thread Jape Person
On 12/02/2015 05:59 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2015, Jape Person wrote: It's occurred to me that, though I have occasionally seen service shutown issues with sysv-init, they were never as pervasive or repetitve as it has been since switching to systemd as the init system. Th

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2015 05:22 AM, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: The complete message is really important. Perhaps, I would investigate. Hello! I did give the complete messages. Both start with A stop job is running for... The endings are Make remote CUPS printers available locally and Network Time Synchr

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2015 01:00 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 03.12.2015 um 18:18 schrieb Jape Person: A stop job is running for... The endings are Make remote CUPS printers available locally and Network Time Synchronization I've checked for CUPS and NTP errors in the logs and have found nothi

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-03 Thread Jape Person
On 12/03/2015 01:23 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: Hi JP On Dec 3, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Jape Person wrote: On 12/03/2015 05:22 AM, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: The complete message is really important. Perhaps, I would investigate. Hello! I did give the complete messages. Both start with A stop job is

Re: Differences Between ThinkPad Models

2015-12-04 Thread Jape Person
On 12/04/2015 01:07 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 04 December 2015 17:46:52 Bob Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 09:36:59AM +0100, mourik jan heupink wrote: On 12/04/2015 05:28 AM, Erick Ocrospoma wrote: I currently have one T440p Lenovo. It's a rock solid, with a nice keyboard. In de

Re: Differences Between ThinkPad Models

2015-12-04 Thread Jape Person
On 12/04/2015 03:52 PM, mourik jan heupink wrote: Hi Lisi, On 12/04/2015 07:07 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: I think they do two grades now. The more expensive ones are reputed still to be good. Mine cost 1400 euro. That must be the better quality businessline. Yet it's build-quelity is terrible. An

Re: A stop job is running for...

2015-12-05 Thread Jape Person
On 12/05/2015 01:21 AM, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: Well, Google shall help! The two articles seem much technical for a kid like me. Still, the content made me feel that there shall be something convincing, which is why I posted it on this mail. 1. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/201

Re: gufw problem

2015-12-08 Thread Jape Person
On 12/08/2015 04:57 PM, Francis Gerund wrote: Hello! I just installed Debian 8.2, 64-bit, Gnome desktop, using the netinst.iso. Used Synaptic to install Gufw (and ufw as dependency). Ufw works fine. But gufw does not show in the application menu or in the favories menu of Gnome. The only way

Re: gufw problem

2015-12-08 Thread Jape Person
On 12/08/2015 09:20 PM, Francis Gerund wrote: I am using the Gnome 3 "classic" desktop. When I push the mouser pointer up into the hot-spot in the upper left corner of the screen, a (sort of) oval pops up containing a magnifying glass icon and the words "Type to search . . . ". If I type in "gu

Re: gufw problem

2015-12-08 Thread Jape Person
On 12/08/2015 10:55 PM, Francis Gerund wrote: Yes! Thank you, Jape. This was the answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681315. I guess I'm going to have to learn to hunt down (and to read) bug reports. Ugh! Reading Is Fundamental (blast from the past). When you don't kn

Re: gufw problem

2015-12-10 Thread Jape Person
On 12/10/2015 02:43 PM, Francis Gerund wrote: [re: "Most people who post here subscribe to the list, so they will receive any response you make to the debian-user list. If you send to the list and to them, they get two copies of each message."] Just a note on email addressing: I was using gm

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Jape Person
On 12/11/2014 05:09 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote: But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution. I think at least some of the list subscribers would be grateful for

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Jape Person
On 12/11/2014 05:57 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote: But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution. I just thought of a different approach, using the fact that one can

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-11 Thread Jape Person
On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK as well

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Jape Person
On 12/11/2014 05:57 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote: But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution. I just thought of a different approach, using the fact that one can

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-11 Thread Jape Person
On 12/11/2014 03:37 PM, Charlie wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:23:10 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent: The root of my sid install was created before that, so I was still getting the periodic check for it. The other ext4 filesystems were newer, so weren't checked (and I didn't even notice it). I've j

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-12 Thread Jape Person
On 12/12/2014 10:09 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Jape Person writes: On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: Andrei POPESCU writes: So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon in the top

Re: fsck on boot in Jessie

2014-12-12 Thread Jape Person
On 12/12/2014 09:08 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: After contributing some comments to the thread on aborting fsck during boot, I thought to try Andrei's /etc/rc.local suggestion. While rebooting, I discovered something quite unexpected (to me at least): The computer on which I did my test is running

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-13 Thread Jape Person
On 12/13/2014 10:31 AM, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: Joel Rees writes: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > shutdown(8) > > > >-F Force fsck on reboot. > > Sshhh. Don't remind us to read the man pages. By the way the -F flag causes /forcefsck to

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-13 Thread Jape Person
On 12/13/2014 12:26 PM, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-13, Jape Person wrote: Would anyone happen to know if plans are afoot to eliminate use of /forcefsck? I haven't the slightest idea, but I read somewhere recently that it might be preferable to go the kernel parameter route, which a

Is something wrong with Debian mirrors today (12/15/2014)?

2014-12-15 Thread Jape Person
Hi, I'm running Debian testing fully updated as of 12/14. Contents of /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib no

Re: Is something wrong with Debian mirrors today (12/15/2014)?

2014-12-15 Thread Jape Person
On 12/15/2014 04:15 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 20:49:19 Jape Person wrote: A quick look at https://mirror.debian.org/status shows the mirrors to be unavailable. I cannot get to https://www.google.com, but http://www.bing.com comes up instantly. Just tried. There is no

Re: Is something wrong with Debian mirrors today (12/15/2014)?

2014-12-15 Thread Jape Person
On 12/15/2014 04:22 PM, chris wrote: Do you actually have working ipv6 connectivity because those hostnames are resolving to v6 IP addresses On Dec 15, 2014 3:50 PM, "Jape Person" wrote: Hi, Chris. Thanks for the reply. It put me on the right track. I don't know why I

Re: fsck on boot in Jessie

2014-12-15 Thread Jape Person
On 12/15/2014 05:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 12 dec 14, 21:29:47, Jape Person wrote: At least I think I've got that right. I'm sleepy, and I'm even dumber than normal because of antihistamines. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will offer a correction. Yes, y

Re: Flash problems

2014-12-16 Thread Jape Person
On 12/16/2014 09:55 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-16, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: I noticed gnash was installed as a lightspark dependency so, after having problems with lightspark, I backed up and just focused on seeing if I couldn't finally get gnash operational. Took a tiny bit of manual file mani

Re: Flash problems

2014-12-16 Thread Jape Person
On 12/16/2014 11:23 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-16, Jape Person wrote: Heh. I'd take gnash right now. I'd take it too, if it worked properly. I just can't bring myself to install the nonfree flash. (I've had a hard enough time convincing myself that it's okay to

Re: Flash problems

2014-12-16 Thread Jape Person
On 12/16/2014 11:32 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Look good when you buy hardware. I don't use non-free drivers, that's not a big problem. But sometimes I use non-free firmware and microcode. I've never looked good when buying hardware. I have no sense of style. But seriously, I've been carefu

Re: Flash problems

2014-12-16 Thread Jape Person
On 12/16/2014 12:07 PM, Gary Dale wrote: Off-topic but html5 is more of a kludge than html4. There is no need for it. Everything that can be done in html5 (and more) has been doable in xhtml for years. I'm curious. Are any of the sites like youtube producing multi-media content via xhtml? -

Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?

2014-12-19 Thread Jape Person
On 12/19/2014 02:22 PM, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-19, Karen Lewellen wrote: My choices work for me, and I am more than willing to respect the choices of others, even if I have zero need or desire to emulate them. Thanks again for the comments, I consider this thread to be closed, at least for me

Re: Develop ineo 25e printer and CUPS

2014-12-30 Thread Jape Person
On 12/30/2014 02:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: Hi all, I have a Develop ineo 25e printer, and want to set it up with CUPS. I connect to http://localhost:631/ and add the printer, with uploading the PPD available here: http://www.develop.eu/en/products/office-products/colour/ineo-25/down

Hard Drive Issues - smartmontools

2015-01-06 Thread Jape Person
Hello, folks! Please help me save my old Sony VAIO desktop system. I have two very old Sony VAIO systems, one desktop and one notebook. They have PATA drives. I run Debian testing (updated every day) on them. They've run testing (as a "rolling" release using "testing" instead of the codename

Re: Hard Drive Issues - smartmontools

2015-01-06 Thread Jape Person
On 01/06/2015 01:30 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 12:21:45 schrieb Jape Person: Hello, folks! Please help me save my old Sony VAIO desktop system. I have two very old Sony VAIO systems, one desktop and one notebook. They have PATA drives. I run Debian testing

Re: Recommendations for a AMD64 Jessie xfce/kde cd

2015-02-08 Thread Jape Person
On 02/08/2015 08:45 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 02/08/2015 08:45 AM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: If somehow Jessie installer doesn't work for you, you can install Wheezy and the upgrade OS to Jessie. If Jessie won't install, "doesn't work for you" use Ubuntu or Mint. Going from Wheezy to Jessie i

Re: Recommendations for a AMD64 Jessie xfce/kde cd

2015-02-09 Thread Jape Person
On 02/09/2015 03:37 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 02/08/2015 09:42 PM, Jape Person wrote: Certainly there will be corner cases where folks get bitten -- especially if they've done a lot of customization of the old init system before doing the upgrade. But I imagine most folks will just hi

Re: SCIM - terminal spreadsheet - sc fork

2015-02-21 Thread Jape Person
On 02/21/2015 08:23 AM, Curt wrote: On 2015-02-21, Andrés Martinelli wrote: As many of you already pointed, the spreadsheet app "SCIM" I am working on, collides in its name with Smart Common Input Method. I decided that is time to change its name to avoid problems and to get lost with the othe

How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-11 Thread Jape Person
Hi! Because of the deprecated use of "# touch /forcefsck" as a method of forcing a file system check on the partition containin /root at boot time I posted here some time ago to see if there might be another way to invoke the function. I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-11 Thread Jape Person
On 03/11/2015 04:44 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-03-11, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: * Jape Person [2015-03-11 14:04 -0400]: [...] I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running a full file system check at inopportune times, but I do make certain that I force a check a

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-11 Thread Jape Person
On 03/11/2015 06:24 PM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Jape Person (jap...@comcast.net): I maintain some remote systems that I don't want running a full file system check at inopportune times, but I do make certain that I force a check and examine the results on a regular basis. Anyway, t

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-12 Thread Jape Person
On 03/12/2015 06:00 AM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: * Liam O'Toole [2015-03-11 20:44 +]: On 2015-03-11, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: [...] According to shutdown(8) ... -f Skip fsck on reboot. -F Force fsck on reboot. ... Elimar Those options are indeed available

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-12 Thread Jape Person
On 03/12/2015 12:04 PM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Jape Person (jap...@comcast.net): On 03/12/2015 06:00 AM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: * Liam O'Toole [2015-03-11 20:44 +]: On 2015-03-11, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: [...] According to shutdown(8) ... -f Skip fsck on r

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-12 Thread Jape Person
On 03/12/2015 02:06 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: * David Wright [2015-03-12 11:04 -0500]: Quoting Jape Person (jap...@comcast.net): [...] Hi, Elimar. So, are you suggesting that this shutdown function (-F, for forcing fsck at boot) is available with the shutdown command if I switch from

Re: No feedback from systemd / "systemctl stop X"... Nothing on stdout, nothing that `echo $?` can see...

2015-03-12 Thread Jape Person
On 03/12/2015 12:51 PM, David Wright wrote: If I don't have "quiet" in the kernel parameters line, I get something that looks like dmesg on steroids, and it's impossible to tell what's going on at all. OTOH with it, and I'm lucky to get anything at all. I just sit and wait for a "clear-screen" (w

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-12 Thread Jape Person
On 03/12/2015 05:48 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 2015-03-11 19:04, schrieb Jape Person: Hi! Because of the deprecated use of "# touch /forcefsck" as a method of forcing a file system check on the partition containin /root at boot time I posted here some time ago to see if there might

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-12 Thread Jape Person
On 03/12/2015 07:38 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 2015-03-13 00:17, schrieb Jape Person: I did realize that "touch /forcefsck" was still working, and that's what I'm using now. I was just trying to get with the times and use whatever I'm supposed to use now. What I did

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-12 Thread Jape Person
On 03/12/2015 09:33 PM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Michael Biebl (bi...@debian.org): Am 2015-03-13 00:17, schrieb Jape Person: Right, you're not the only one. There were quite a few people, when they noticed file system errors in the system log, they thought it might be a good idea to

Re: How can I force a full fsck on a remote system at next reboot?

2015-03-13 Thread Jape Person
On 03/12/2015 05:48 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: touch /forcefsck is deprecated under systemd, but still supported. What sysvinit's shutdown -F does, is simply create that flag file. That parameter was removed from systemd's shutdown command, as its use is discouraged, but as said, still supporte

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