Re: RESOLVED: Synaptic error message

2021-06-27 Thread Brian
larger variety of examples on the man > page. What need is there for examples when the manual is clarity itself?? Under THE DEB AND DEB-SRC TYPES: OPTIONS sources.list(5) has •Trusted (trusted) is a tri-state value... and For simplicity we list the deb822 field name and provide the one-line name in brackets. You are using the one-line format. -- Brian.

Re: how to change terminal (tty) font?

2021-06-28 Thread Brian
e yahoo is partially blocked > > > > Looks like this four-year-old bug: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=857132 A distinct possibility. I wonder whether executing 'setupcon' after rebooting restores the wanted terminal font? -- Brian.

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
off. It is inappropriate anywhere in public. You are not bothered by this? I am and so are others. Just so you know. By all means use it with your parents, children and grandparents. Keep it in the family and don't subject the rest of us to it. Your use of a euphanism is interesting. The "E" word? -- Brian.

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
y might do harm. > It is irrelevant how old the word is, what its etymology is and all > that. Just the effect counts in the current context. > > In private, and when I /know/ that my interlocutors are fine with it, > I apply less restraints (but try to be prepared for cases where my > "knowledge" turns out to be wrong: I have to rely on others to help > me on that, external POV and all of this). The language one speaks indictes social status. -- Brian.

Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
d "lunatic" in public. Their history is interesting. -- Brian.

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 14:27:16 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: [...] > There are a bunch of loonies... A very nineteenth centrury word. This bunch of people have views that are due to some mental illness? Maybe a touch of empathy would not go unnoticed. [...] -- Brian.

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
at directive just where I wanted it to have effect. > Without my local references, I don't have the details. IIRC isn't the soundest basis for making an assertion or claim. I would suggest YAIITUW (yet another installtion in the usual way) would help to clear up the matter. The D.I. syslog would be useful to glance at. -- Brian.

Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

2021-06-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 23:40:54 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-06-30 18:56, Brian wrote: > > > > "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis > > > especially > > > when unexpected > > > Doesn't bother me but

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-07-01 Thread Brian
386-DVD-1.iso and checked the syslog and /target/var/lib/dpkg/info for what was installed using D-I. AFAICT, all the recommended packages of task-gnome-desktop are on the system. So...a D-I bug? -- Brian.

Re: GRUB command-line with timeout

2021-07-01 Thread Brian
ime, you want GRUB to fail? The use case is interesting. Perhaps you could explain. > Can that be configured in GRUB? Only with great difficulty. -- Brian.

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-07-01 Thread Brian
; > tasks=standard Extremely unlikely. In fact, impossible. > I only add a desktop after first boot into the fresh minimal installation. This isn't what Richard Owlet or I are doing. We are not on the same page. > What other command line options did you use? Irrelelevant. -- Brian.

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-07-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 16:34:46 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2021-07-01 21:05 (UTC+0100): > > > On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 12:40:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > >> Du

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-07-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Jul 2021 at 04:55:04 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 07/01/2021 04:52 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 16:34:46 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > Brian composed on 2021-07-01 21:05 (UTC+0100): > > > > > > > On Thu 01

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-07-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Jul 2021 at 16:24:12 +0100, Brian wrote: [..] > on the system. So...a D-I bug? Quite possibly, but my involvement with it ends here. Others can pursue it in a suitable report. Note that the installation with "recommends=false" still sets up the system not to instal

Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

2021-07-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Jul 2021 at 11:09:58 +0100, Brian wrote: > Indeed. Apologies, Felix. Having said that, perhaps installing in the same way as two other users have idicaated would allow you to make a useful contriburion without having to rely on memory. -- Brian.

Re: removing modules

2021-07-03 Thread Brian
ion. You will be happier. -- Brian.

Re: removing modules

2021-07-04 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 Jul 2021 at 20:49:01 -0600, Tom Dial wrote: > > > On 7/3/21 13:04, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 03 Jul 2021 at 18:49:35 +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> Can I not *just* move the older ones out of the way so upgrade doesn

Re: make custom kernel

2021-07-04 Thread Brian
gparted been mentioned? > (And I would investigate why your initrd files are /so/ large.) You me worried, but not so much I intend to do anything about it :). On this machine: about 6.8 M; on others 2.3 M. __ Brian.

Re: removing modules

2021-07-04 Thread Brian
On Sun 04 Jul 2021 at 13:45:00 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Sun, 2021-07-04 at 10:08 +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 03 Jul 2021 at 20:49:01 -0600, Tom Dial wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/3/21 13:04, Brian wrote: > > > >

Re: removing modules

2021-07-04 Thread Brian
On Sun 04 Jul 2021 at 20:16:25 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 19:42:26 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > >I did specify "as time goes on". Suppose one boots successfully a 100 > >times with the new kernel. What need is there

Re: removing modules

2021-07-05 Thread Brian
On Sun 04 Jul 2021 at 23:53:15 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 04 Jul 2021 at 21:12:10 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Sun 04 Jul 2021 at 20:16:25 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 19:42:26 +0100 Brian wrote: > > > >I did specify "as time goes

Re: ASTM Lab equipment protocol

2021-07-09 Thread Brian
cription. > > > That should give you some idea > > If only things could be that easy. The debian-med and/or the debian-science mailing list couls help out. https://lists.debian.org/debian-med/ https://lists.debian.org/debian-science/ -- Brian.

Re: Need help with ffmpeg installation - strange behaviour of my system - am I correct here?

2021-07-09 Thread Brian
uot; meaages secret. How could anyone work out what is going on? > I am running Debian 9 on a Fujitsu TX 100 S1 computer ... ffmpeg is known to be installable on Debian 9. -- Brian.

Re: Need help with ffmpeg installation - strange behaviour of my system - am I correct here?

2021-07-09 Thread Brian
nstall recent versions of web browsers, video players, > and other large and complicated packages. The OP says: Hello - I tried to install ffmpeg... This is on Debian 9. Either it installs or it doesn't. It did for me. Not being the current release seems neither here nor there. -- Brian.

Re: Need help with ffmpeg installation - strange behaviour of my system - am I correct here?

2021-07-09 Thread Brian
On Fri 09 Jul 2021 at 15:40:21 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 08:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 09 Jul 2021 at 15:05:20 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 08:41:17PM +0200, Joerg Kampmann wrote: > > > &g

Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT]

2021-07-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 Jul 2021 at 14:38:39 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I'm a little surprised to see that you don't even mention the mix which > I've been running for the last decade-plus: stable + testing, which Most likely an oversight. -- Brian.

Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT]

2021-07-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 Jul 2021 at 13:48:12 -0500, Brian Thompson wrote: > On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 21:18 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >    Testing doesn't have any direct security support > > Is that 100% true? I was originally referring to Almost, for most of the time and in norma

Re: Buster no release file

2021-07-11 Thread Brian
threatening language. * Ruffled feathers can be preened. * Why me? -- Brian.

Re: Buster no release file

2021-07-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Jul 2021 at 14:08:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 07:01:39PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > * I do not understand what the issue is. > > The issue is that there is a self-appointed "wiki-owners' association" > that will undo any effor

Re: Cool down... [was: Buster no release file]

2021-07-11 Thread Brian
abuse *and* child labour; views on the latter change, as > everything else. OK. > Electrical code changes, too -- you can't wire > a house nowadays as if it were 1923. You might get in hot water > for that ;-) Talk about a change of subject! -- Brian.

Re: Buster no release file

2021-07-12 Thread Brian
a very reasonable point of view. A prominent link to the Release Notes is necessary on the wiki page but, as a service to users, pointing out what may be considered of interest (with linis) is not likely to be harmful. Repetition can serve a useful purpose, especially if it is accompanied by some explanatory text. -- Brian.

Re: Buster no release file

2021-07-12 Thread Brian
to figure out how to communicate with the editor". > > I think this was settled: he's a well-known Debian maintainer, after all. True in this case but, unfortunately, quite a number of editors don't register a contact point. -- Brian.

Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]

2021-07-13 Thread Brian
(he who has disappeared) could just sensitively edit the wiki page he has an interest in, That's what I would do. -- Brian.

Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]

2021-07-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Jul 2021 at 14:59:27 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 07:32:19PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > May I suggest we get back on-topic. > > There's a topic? I think we're so far from the topic that we can't > even get back to it with a co

Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]

2021-07-13 Thread Brian
gt; > underdog so as to foster competition. > > +1 You are apparently well up in this field. Is there a particular udderdog you would recommend? -- Brian.

Re: Repair partition after dd

2021-07-14 Thread Brian
rt.cgi?bug=788662 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751892 -- Brian.

Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]

2021-07-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 12:53:00 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 02:59:27PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 07:32:19PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > May I suggest we get back on-topic. > > > > There's a topic? I thi

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > Off topic reply for sure. [Reply snipped] Dead sure it is. Nothing unusual. Are you trying to gat many in before you pop your clogs? :) -- Brian.

Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:54:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 14 July 2021 16:49:34 Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 14 Jul 2021 at 16:40:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Off topic reply for sure. > > > > [Reply snipped

Re: How do I mount the USB stick containing the installer in Rescue Mode?

2021-07-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Jul 2021 at 20:01:05 +0200, Stella Ashburne wrote: > root@perfect:/# file -sL /dev/sdb1 > bash: file: command not found > root@perfect:/# File is a standard utilty. It should be on your system. apt install file -- Brian.

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-18 Thread Brian
sue? -devel are presently having a re-run of a TC decision. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2021/07/msg00126.html -- Brian.

Re: Receipt [ was : needrestart - how to supress ncurses gui]

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
ee you believe in it. :) > To: Hans > Cc: "User Mailing List (Debian)" -- Brian.

Re: Receipt [ was : needrestart - how to supress ncurses gui]

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 16:41:20 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 04:13:40PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:39:36 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > Why bother people with requesting a

Re: Receipt [ was : needrestart - how to supress ncurses gui]

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
lso no big thing... > > So I say, sorry for that. Saying so, is also not a big thing (for me). Nothing I said was meant to be an actual or implied criticism of anything you posted. AFAIAC, you haven't anything to explain or apologise for. -- Brian.

Re: Receipt [ was : needrestart - how to supress ncurses gui]

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 20:11:36 +0200, Hans wrote: > Am Sonntag, 25. Juli 2021, 19:54:01 CEST schrieb Brian: > Hi Brian, > > my mail was in no case directed to you. I just answered to your mail, because > it was the last in the chain. Nothing else. > > With this mail I tal

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
o :-( I went to https://github.com/alexpevzner/sane-airscan and found it full of very useful information. You will explain why Microsoft's involvement in the site should make me wary of advising users to go there? -- Brian.

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 21:36:26 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > >

Re: Receipt [ was : needrestart - how to supress ncurses gui]

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
Cc-ing the poster. Therefore my point is irrelevant now. Let's move on. -- Brian.

Re: Receipt [ was : needrestart - how to supress ncurses gui]

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 20:43:02 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 03:30:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 03:21:54PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > > wrote: > > > On 2021-07-25 11:13 a.m., Brian wrote: > &g

Re: Receipt [ was : needrestart - how to supress ncurses gui]

2021-07-25 Thread Brian
me dressed up as a pop star (Elvis Presley) or a Toy Story character (keeps this on topic for Debian). It depends on the theme of the party. There must be equivalent terms in other languages. -- Brian.

Re: Types of Debian updates

2021-07-27 Thread Brian
oldstable - Debian 8 under support > as either LTS or ELTS. This support is not engineered by Debian. -- Brian.

Re: location of screenshots during debian install

2021-07-27 Thread Brian
ping screenshots debian installation advertises > may be something I can use to (a) research the problem on my own > or (b) share it with folks here to get help. You are obviously trying to help yourself. That is good. Please say at what stage the installation fails and what you see on the screen then. -- Brian.

Re: what binds to port

2021-07-30 Thread Brian
it to get rid of this systemd and helper things stuff ? Rhetorical, I hope? You haven't any evidence to believe it is the source of any of your difficulties. User disparagement doesn't count. > I like things to work but I'm quite capable of breaking things on my own. A sound principal for anyone to take note of. -- Brian.

Re: what binds to port

2021-07-31 Thread Brian
On Sat 31 Jul 2021 at 10:20:43 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-07-30 18:30, Brian wrote: > <...> > > https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork#escl > looking at those informative pages I think /dev/sg2 is the scanner > should that not be in group scanner ? > > ro

Re: what binds to port

2021-07-31 Thread Brian
On Sat 31 Jul 2021 at 14:37:49 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-07-31 13:18, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 31 Jul 2021 at 10:20:43 +0100, mick crane wrote: > > > > > On 2021-07-30 18:30, Brian wrote: > > > <...> > > > > https://wiki.deb

Re: what binds to port

2021-07-31 Thread Brian
meout = 3 > localhost > > Which I'm not understanding. the net backend is for accessing another backend, either remotely or on localhost. If you comment out fujitsu on localhost, there isn't any suitable backend on localhost to contact and use the scanner. -- Brian.

Re: what binds to port

2021-07-31 Thread Brian
On Sat 31 Jul 2021 at 17:17:29 +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2021-07-31 16:32, Brian wrote: > > > grep scanner /etc/groups > > cat /etc/default/saned > > > I keep thinking it should be groups and not group as well. An embarassing typo :). > me and saned are i

Re: what binds to port

2021-08-02 Thread Brian
evision 'ED11' > > So it's clearly the DVD burner which is at sg2. > > Do you have any sg device left as suspect for the scanner's device file, > after you subtracted one for each hard disk and each optical drive ? > (I.e. are there two hard disks to occupy sg0 and sg1 and no other sgX left ?) Isn't /dev/sg0 the block device? -- Brian.

Re: what binds to port

2021-08-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Aug 2021 at 13:21:22 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Brian wrote: > > Isn't /dev/sg0 the block device? > > /dev/sgX are character devices. > > https://tldp.org/HOWTO/SCSI-Generic-HOWTO/intro.html > says > "The driver's purpo

Re: what binds to port

2021-08-02 Thread Brian
e command set. Other USB devices either have their own > kernel drivers (printers…) or appear as generic USB devices nodes to be > accessed with libusb. Helpful remarks, but I did not think printers used kernel drivers. -- Brian.

Re: what binds to port

2021-08-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Aug 2021 at 17:35:46 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Brian (12021-08-02): > > Helpful remarks, but I did not think printers used kernel drivers. > > AFAIR, USB printers appear as a special device, unlike generic USB > devices, that makes one layer of drivers, bu

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
posters here have resorted to is downright hostile > in that context. Agreed. Putting the boot in is a well-known -user technique. -- Brian.

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
histicated trolling", let me express doubt about the > feeling of hostility you may see there. I think you should review the > level at which your trigger is raised, maybe some adjustment are needed. I would suggest you stick to techniqual advice and ignore trying to educate the user. It makes for shorter threads and less friction. -- Brian.

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
om -user is insulting, nevermind condescending. The objective of Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside appears to be to put the user in his place. -- Brian.

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

2021-08-04 Thread Brian
may lead to temporary or permanent bans for offenders. I have never known a tempory ban being applied to a user. Is this a recent change in Listmaster policy? -- Brian.

Re: Manners and useful subject [was Re: HOW's lost @ $ €]

2021-08-05 Thread Brian
time to give this user some > answer to his many questions ? Of course you may ask. You would have observed such an interaction. -- Brian.

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

2021-08-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 23:30:45 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:43:26PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:01:18 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > Problems? > > > = > > > > > > Complain

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

2021-08-06 Thread Brian
rse, a banned person can try to sneak in by cc-ing to the list. > > A group reply is then all it's needed. > > > > "Apply some judgement" seems, as always, to be the right thing. > > > > Cheers > > - t mutt shows me this is the post you responded to. You made no comment on it but went off on a tangent. -- Brian.

Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
nch mob hits the streets. -- Brian.

Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much'

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
ist. Please refrain. -- Brian.

Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
e form of trolling. I am dismayed by the acceptance given to didier gaumet's post. Does that response really deserve insults and ad hominem? -- Brian. > -- > Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside > -Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development >

Re: 'uinsolicited advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list'

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 17:12:37 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/7/21 5:05 PM, Brian wrote: > > uinsolicited > > advice but it is regarded as bad manners on this list > > >  : in total ??  : Zero unsolicited ?? As evidenced by your change of subject title, you hav

Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 11:07:01 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-07 11:00 a.m., Brian wrote: > > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:02:36 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > [Snipping] > > > >> *Dider*: There

Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 14:26:41 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 10:02:36AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 2021-08-07 9:31 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 11:56:52AM +0100,

Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:13:15 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-07 10:05 a.m., Brian wrote: > > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 16:36:19 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > > > >> > >> : https://www.merriam-webster.com/ > > >

Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 12:30:45 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > On 2021-08-07 12:11 p.m., Brian wrote: > > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 10:13:15 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 2021-08-07 10:0

Re: Manners [ was Re: 'Hoping people won't *who-ha* too much']

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 19:23:58 +0300, ellanios82 wrote: > On 8/7/21 7:11 PM, Brian wrote: > > Having diagnosed my condition > > >  : regrettably, my archive seems in state of a toxic-waste-dump  :((( > > > . > > >  -- a synopsis of your condition??

Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian

2021-08-07 Thread Brian
hostility shown > towards the OP by some. There wasn't any hostility shown to the OP of this thread. He was collateral damage. You can thank didier gaumet and his baseless accusation for that. Apology, I hear you ask? Don't hold your breath. -- Brian.

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-10 Thread Brian
PS will cease to support drivers and PPDs in the coming years. Users may as well come to terms with driverless printing. HPLIP and other vendor drivers will not have any place in a future CUPS. -- Brian.

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-10 Thread Brian
et things > up, of course. I can understand using HPLIP instead of driverless printing if you had a USB connection and were on buster, but not if the device has a network connection or is on bullseye. Does choosing to employ HPLIP have some advantage? I know many users do the same as you do. Surely HP in the package's name is not the incentive? -- Brian.

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-10 Thread Brian
On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 17:51:46 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 17:18:30 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > >I can understand using HPLIP instead of driverless printing if you > >had a USB connection and were on buster, but not if the device has

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-10 Thread Brian
On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 19:01:30 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 18:44:18 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > >Thank you for the response, Brad. I see the point about applet verus web > > NP, Brian. > > >page. To my mind it is not

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-10 Thread Brian
On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 19:56:21 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 10/08/2021 à 16:59, Brian a écrit : > > > > CUPS will cease to support drivers and PPDs in the coming years. Users > > may as well come to terms with driverless printing. HPLIP and other > > vendor drivers w

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-10 Thread Brian
On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 20:57:56 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 10/08/2021 à 20:54, Brian a écrit : > > On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 19:01:30 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 18:44:18 +0100 > >> Brian wrote: > >> > >> Hello Brian,

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 08:00:44 +0200, Erwan David wrote: [...] > Le 10/08/2021 à 21:48, Brian a écrit : > > On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 20:57:56 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > > > > > We'll see at that time, especially since what I read from > > > https://

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 08:19:37 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 19:54:23 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > >As I've said previously, a future CUPS will not support printer drivers. > >HPLIP provides printer drivers. There will be little po

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
t of view of the client, printing just works. I suppose we could call it a "non-vendor driver and PPD-less system", but that is a bit of a mouthful :). -- Brian.

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 13:42:00 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 11:14:10AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 08:00:44 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Le 10/08/2021 à 21:48, Brian a écrit : > > > > On Tue

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 12:00:51 -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-08-11, Brian wrote: > >> > >> When, eventually, all HP printers run driverless _and_ no no-driverless > >> printer exist 'in the wild', yes. Until then, I'd expect HPLIP to > >> re

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 12:39:46 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 11:36:40 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > >a future CUPS will not work with PPDs and driver > > Indeed, you mentioned that previously (I'd forgotten already). However, >

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 13:20:37 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 12:00:51 - (UTC) > Curt wrote: > > Hello Curt, > > >Will I have to toss my trusty Brother HL-2030, brother? Fork Cups, I > >guess, and full speed ahead. > > Unless I'm rea

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 14:15:49 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 11/08/2021 à 12:36, Brian a écrit : > > On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 08:19:37 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 19:54:23 +0100 > > > Brian wrote: > > > > > > Hel

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
On Wed 11 Aug 2021 at 16:28:04 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 11/08/2021 à 16:01, Brian a écrit : > > > The point of "profiles" is to provide a simple way for enterprises to > > configure/deploy IPP Everywhere queues (pointed at real printers, a > > central C

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
e there for a reason. I know from the past that you find this behaviour aggravating. I wish you had refrained from complaining in this thread. I have nothing else to say on the matter. -- Brian.

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-11 Thread Brian
org/spec-download These are not the Mopria specs. Does Mopria have specs? The document relates to scanning with the eSCL protocol. This an Apple (and/or HP) protocol. Will we ever know who was involved in its inception? -- Brian. -- Brian

Re: Reply configuration (was: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012)

2021-08-12 Thread Brian
t. Please try USB *and* network. May I suggest a new thread rather than a continuation of this one, which is concerned with the general suitability of a printer for driverless printing rather than the specifics for a particular printer. -- Brian.

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-12 Thread Brian
s it the *best* criterion? I've now got my head around it. Surely, it is better looking for AirPrint support in the printer specs to determine the driverless capabilities of printer? -- Brian

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-12 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 15:33:26 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-12 3:22 p.m., Brian wrote: > > On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at 18:29:02 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> I'm using a Xe

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 18:56:58 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-12 6:27 p.m., Brian wrote: > > On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 15:33:26 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 2021-08-12 3:2

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Aug 2021 at 09:10:06 -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-08-12, Brian wrote: > > > >> Possibility to send the data in PDF format directly (or JPG) > >> Auto discovery of the services offered thru "Bonjour". > > > > Please give a link at the Mo

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