Re: Non-delivery reports from postmas...@ewetel.de

2023-12-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 11:53:46PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 11:21 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > Is anyone else receiving non-delivery report emails from > > postmas...@ewetel.de for every email they post to debian-user? […] > When I receive

Re: Telnet

2023-12-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 09:50:00AM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > My telnet not operate, try connect my laptop by means of telnet: Can someone examine the list's configuration? This email from 1994 seems to have only just been delivered. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 10:25:55PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > You may ask me questions or suggest options on my wordpress page: > > https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/06/tog-touch-of-god-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/ This page doesn't seem to exist (yet?). I looked at the root of th

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye) I don't think it does. Just because you found a file on the filesystem that says it does, is as trustworthy as the claims in your email that your client is called Henry Kiss

Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:11:54AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > /var/lib/dpkg/info/php-horde.postrm: 28: /etc/apache2/envvars: > /etc/default/locale: Permission denied The postrm script of php-horde is failing, so the package cannot be properly uninstalled. I'd look in /var/lib/dpkg/

Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:26:41AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > I figured out the problem and apt is working fine now. It would be nice for you to elaborate, both to satisfy my curiosity 😀 and to provide a search engine hit for anyone encountering this in future. Thanks, Andy --

Re: Xorg fails, no gui: systemd issue?

2023-12-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 12:57:59AM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: > On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 3:01 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Today is the 8th of December - strictly, that's barely a business week. > > > > Debian expressly comes with no guarantees. You are running sid a.k.a > > unstable

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:26:19AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > I thought I was doing things right a year back when I built a raid10 for my > /home partition. but I'm tired of fighting with it for access. Anything that > wants to open a file on it, is subjected to a freeze of at least 30 se

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing to wait for it to respond

2023-12-13 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:29:44PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/your/home/dir/zero bs=1m count=100 The above and the other dd invocation should have 'bs=1M'. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

letsencrypt certs for disconnected hosts (Was Re: update-ca-certificates)

2023-12-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 07:50:00PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 09:34:37 +0800 > jeremy ardley wrote: > > > You don't have to be your own CA. It's very easy to use letsencrypt > > to generate valid certificates for hosts even if they are not > > directly connected to

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-15 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 09:54:08PM +, fuf wrote: > I don't notice differences among amd64 and i386 but think to pick among > this. Give advice, what better please? i386 (or any other 32-bit x86) Linux should generally not ever be used on any hardware that supports amd64. The main reason for

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:00:00AM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/14/23 18:36, gene heskett wrote: > > Thunar, yes, but I don't use it, not my cup of tea. […] > It sounds like OpenSCAD and gidislicer have something in common that is > causing the issue, while the other apps do no

Re: Problem with /var/cache/apt/archives/

2023-12-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 03:03:38PM +0100, john doe wrote: > On 12/16/23 14:45, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > When I installed the OS I selected the option for separate /var > > etc, and selected the default sizes of the partitions. […] > > Can I increase the size of the /var partition on t

Re: dhcpd.conf Q?

2023-12-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:42:33AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Persuant to the dhcpd discussion, I have install a local isc-dhpd-server. I > setup a $20 wide block, starting at 192.168.71.100 I'm going to take a guess that you mean your pool is from .100 to .119 (or .120?) as I've never i

Re: dhcpd.conf Q?

2023-12-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 12:16:41PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/16/23 11:41, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:42:33AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > Persuant to the dhcpd discussion, I have install a local isc-dhpd-serv

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 10:12:11AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > dt00=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S) > echo "// __ \$dt00: |${dt00}|" > > ... after some long processing for which seconds would be exact > enough, then I would like to get the seconds elapsed since dt00, like > this: > > dt02=$(da

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 06:10:49AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 7:45 PM Tixy wrote: > > Just announced today [1] it looks like Debian will drop i386 installs > > for the next release. > > > > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/12/msg000

Re: Finding i386 After Support Ends (Was: differences among amd64 and i386)

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 09:16:49AM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > That points you to an amazingly long list of Debian releases: > > https://linuxcollections.com/products/debian/debian.htm Though if I wanted an image for an old Debian release I'd just download it from: https://cdima

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 03:28:58PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/17/23, Andy Smith wrote: > > subtracting one epoch time from another doesn't always produce > > an accurate duration. […] > how on earth would that not always produce an accurate duration?

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 07:38:49AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > which poc...@columbus.rr.com Not sure what you're trying to achieve but these administrative commands should go to the mailing list software at , not to debian-user@, which is the list itself and its thousands of subscribers. (A pity

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:13:12AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 07:59, Andy Smith wrote: > > these administrative commands should go to the mailing list > > software at , not to debian-user@, > > which is the list itself and its thousands of subscribers. […] > Ev

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 04:11:05PM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > I have heard that there is a countermeasure against spam run be big mail > providers by rejecting the first contact by SMTP and accepting the next > contact. Most spammers seem to try just once. I think you are talking

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:43:04AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 10:35, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > For the gateway errors and majordomo delays, you should probably > > contact . Also see > > . > > That goes without any response, I can not tell if the ema

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:07:16AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well > as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based on the > reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number of connections and try > again late

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 11:12, Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 20.12.2023 um 11:07:16 Uhr schrieb Pocket: > > > Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, > > > as well as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary b

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:30:24AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/20/23 11:26, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > And yes, yell to your provider. Everyone and her dog coming > > up with random policies is what's killing email. > > I am sure the will be quaking in their boots if I call them to deman

Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 11:44:42AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Does one email constitute "persistently undeliverable"? I hope that the Debian listmasters get back to you with more details, but I interpret Spectrum's reject message to mean that all mails from Debian's IP from that time forward w

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > Maybe I should not post at all? Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I for one am in favour of. Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: Help: network abuse

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 01:10:59PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > Yes: I do run a web server at home, but there is only a little/personal stuff, > it does not receive much real traffic, I do not want it to. Most of my web > presence is hosted elsewhere. Okay well 30KiB/s is only about

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:35:44AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > Maybe I should not post at all? > > Unless you are able to do better at it, that is a solution that I >

Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Andy Smith
ocket wrote: > > On 12/21/23 08:49, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 07:35:44AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > On 12/21/23 06:32, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:44:23AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > > > Maybe I should not pos

Re: systemd and timezone

2023-12-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:36:34PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Servers work in groups and log-aggregation and analysis software is normal > in that context. And since your web server fleet, for one example, may be > spread across multiple timezones or multiple continents to reduce lat

Re: Clarification: public private replies [WAS Re: Formal reminder of Codes of Conduct]

2023-12-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 03:49:13PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/21/23 14:27, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Posting well-intentioned private replies back to the list is not > > appropriate. > > Please clarify how the Debian Community Team wishes us to respond to the > following u

Re: package manager

2023-12-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi William, On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 11:57:58AM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > > W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is > > not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: > > http://repo.mysql.com/apt/debian bullseye InRelease: The followi

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

2023-12-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 11:05:53PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Why would %S be in the range second (00..60), instead of > (00..59)?: Remember what seems like years ago in this thread when I said that if we're being pedantic, this is more complicated than you think, and you scoffed tha

Re: md0 + UUIDs for member disks

2023-12-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Felix, On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 04:46:10PM +0100, Felix Natter wrote: > I have /dev/md0 mounted at /storage which consists of two HDDs. > > Now I would like to add an SSD drive for better performance of > VMs. Usually, before doing this, I make sure that all of my disks are > mounted using UUID

Re: md0 + UUIDs for member disks

2023-12-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 06:17:07PM +0100, Felix Natter wrote: > Andy Smith writes: > > But to be absolutely sure you may wish to totally ignore md0 and > > its member devices during install as all their data and the > > metadata on their member devices will

Re: URLs in Mutt

2024-01-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 09:23:03AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Passing the entire text/html part to an actual web browser has been > what works best for me. Me too. I'll do the mailcap thing to visually skim the text/html part with w3m, but there are so many broken HTML messes that I'm o

Re: Monthly FAQ for Debian-user mailing list (modified 20240101)

2024-01-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jan 01, 2024 at 07:32:18PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > If one changes subject, would it not be better to simply start a new > thread? With most mail readers threading using the In-Reply-To header, > the new subject would get buried in the old thread. Personally I prefer that. I

Re: 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors How worried should I be?

2024-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 04:42:37PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > If I understand that entry in the SMART report, the offending > sector should eventually be re-mapped or else marked as > unrecoverable. If the latter, I'll get really concerned. If a SMART long self-test came back clean the

Re: 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors How worried should I be?

2024-01-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jan 02, 2024 at 08:17:55PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 00:29:42 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > If a SMART long self-test came back clean then it already has been > > re-mapped as a long self-test reads every user-accessible sector. > > I&

Re: 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors How worried should I be?

2024-01-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 04:27:54PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > OOPS! -w is the destructive test. I now have a hard drive full of 0x00s. > I should have used the -n option. However, it reported no failures. So has this coaxed the drive into reducing its pending sector count to zero or do

Re: NFS: IPV6

2024-01-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 07:04:21AM -0500, Pocket wrote: > I have this in the exports, ipv4 works > > /srv/Multimedia 192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,subtree_check) > /srv/Other 192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,subtree_check) > #/home 2002:474f:e945:0:0:0:0:0/64(rw,no_root_squash,subtree_c

Re: Installing Debian on an old Asus EEE PC

2024-01-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 05, 2024 at 06:35:26PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Most important: It can run all debian things (and more), but note, the EEEPC > is 32-bit, so you need the 32-bit version of debian. Which there won't be after the next release, or maybe for the next release. This is not something to

Re: Donate money

2024-01-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 11:30:52AM +1000, David wrote: > Perhaps the Debian Project, represented in the media as `an > unaccountable collective of hackers', will be next. Debian doesn't sell any products or services and doesn't take donations; the organisations that take donations on Debia

Re: disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/

2024-01-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 05:06:33AM +, miphix wrote: > If you were to issue 'ls -l /' You'll find that /bin, /sbin, > lib{32,64,x32} are linked to their counterparts in /usr/. I under- > stand the logic in doing so. However, for specific reasons that would > require exhaustive explanatio

/usr on NFS (was: Re: disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/)

2024-01-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 10:41:05AM -0800, Mike Castle wrote: > I did that for years. > > Then again, when I started doing that, I was using PLIP over a > null-printer cable. But even after I could afford larger harddrives > (so I had room to install /usr), and Ethernet cards (and later a

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-12 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, There are some indicators of a fundamental lack of understanding here I'm afraid. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 09:42:54PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > smartctl says my raid10 is dying, No it doesn't; smartctl works on drives, not mdadm arrays. mdadm arrays are composed of block devices. Ther

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:57:23PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/12/24 21:56, Andy Smith wrote: > > No it doesn't; smartctl works on drives, not mdadm arrays. mdadm > > arrays are composed of block devices. Therefore any output you get > > from smartd refe

Re: File has unexpected size (x != y). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: ...] ...

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 02:06:22PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 13 Jan 2024 13:44 +, from lbrt...@gmail.com (Albretch Mueller): > > E: Failed to fetch > > https://myattwg.att.com/olam/jsp/login/uverse/VS/UverseAccount.html > > File has unexpected size (7009 != 20884). Mirror sync

Re: Virtualization

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 08:38:37AM -0800, Chip Snuth wrote: > I'm currently using RHEL however, I am still virtualization to play with   > Debian instead of houseing my RHEL installation . Would the Debian community > view me as a trator ofr chill for closed source and proprietary software? >

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Gene, On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:23:28PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Does making a raid erase the drives label field in a gpt partition scheme? > > That question ought to have a simple yes or no answer. I'm forced to conclude that it's a waste of anyone's time to try to help you since you don't

512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I've got a disk image that sits on top of an LVM logical volume that is on top of an mdadm RAID-1 that is on top of a pair of: Device Model: Samsung SSD 870 EVO 4TB Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical so let';s say that is at /dev/foo/disk_image (where /dev/foo is the name of th

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 08:01:52AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > If necessary and if there is a way, I *can* nuke off the target > machine's "foo" volume group and recreate the RAID array if I have > to make it 512e format. But obviously I'd like some way to move this &

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Thomas, On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 02:33:37PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I wonder, though, why fdisk would misrepresent the total disk size, > which i would expect to come from the storage device. > Maybe fdisk is more confused than i expect. > > Can you show the whole output of fdisk from th

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 11:37:08AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Andy Smith (12024-01-13): > > As usual you have not bothered to show us what you are talking about > > (the email from smartd) > > And that leads you to write a patient and detailed answer, so surely

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Stefan, On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 11:32:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Do you need a partition table? These are other people's virtual machines so to some extent I don't have a say on what they put inside them. It is always nice to understand what is going on though! > What happens if you

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 03:20:51PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > In your dd commands that moved these filesystems, did you specify ibs= > and/or obs= No. I don't see how that would make any difference. I could as well have used "cat|ssh" instead of "dd|ssh". Also note that the image fi

Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 01:17:42AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > If rsync really is bugged, maybe a change of options would avoid the bug. Try > instead of -av, -rlptgoDAXUNH. Could it be that verbosity is the OOM > crippler, and > not necessarily from rsync itself, but possibly from the xte

To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 01:01:02PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 1/16/24 11:51, Franco Martelli wrote: > > I thought it was mandatory for a RAID to partition drives with this > > partition type, am I wrong? In the ancient past it was required, because that was one of the ways that m

Re: Debian 11 & Debian 12

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Jeff, On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:25:40PM +, Jeff Jennings wrote: > Please find a way to restore the integrity of open-source software > distribution. Firmware updates are required for almost every general purpose computing device in existence and at this time those are non-free. You have

Testing storage performance (Was Re: mdraid construction and testing (was: smartctl cannot access my stor...))

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Felix, On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 04:50:01PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > What can I use to test what its write speed is? I'm not seeing any option to > do so > in hdparm. The king of storage performance testing is "fio". It's packaged in Debian. It's really worth learning a bit about. What sort

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Stefan, On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 05:31:37AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 11:32:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > What happens if you use diskimages that contain directly a filesystem > > without going through the trouble of using a partition table? >

Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 02:52:49PM -0500, Default User wrote: > By "glitch", I mean anything that could interfere with the rsync copy > process. Possible causes: > - electrical outages, voltage spikes, voltage drops, "brownouts" > - mechanical failure > - earthquake > - lightning > - cat wal

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:53:43AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > I'm clearly a member of a third group of people,,, :-) Oh, I didn't mean to imply that those going by taste were in a minority! Taste, or possibly, "just never thought about it" could well be the biggest group. I was only ta

Re: standardize uid:gid?

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 06:23:28AM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jan 2024, David Chmelik wrote: > > > Couldn't Debian standardize uid:gid numbers for daemons? […] > I haven't tried it but I would assume that if the user exists then the > package uses that. Correct. So for our

Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:09:35PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > However, I have read that using rsync --delete instead of rsync -- > > delete-after is faster and uses less memory, and so is more efficient.  > > I'd be surprised if it makes a significant difference. If you use --delete

Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help)

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:28:30AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Sounds like this group has finally achieved a long overdue consensus. How > many times since LVM was ready for root/boot volumes have I been told that > using partitions was necessary good practice. Even had that in job > int

Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:01:46PM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-01-18, Andy Smith wrote: > > If you use --delete-after (and some other options) then rsync has to > > check every file before it can do any work, whereas normally it will > > find a few files

Re: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > Good afternoon. > Root terminal is fine. > What do I do wrong? > What did I destroy? h-boy, strap yourselves in for another epic Sophie/Michael thread. A bit like the Gene ones, though tend to be circular across a much

Re: 512e vs 4K sector confusion

2024-01-20 Thread Andy Smith
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 08:01:52AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Now, after the disk_image has arrived, it looks very odd. fdisk > thinks it is 8 times bigger than it really is, and thinks it has 4K > sectors. I can't use "kpartx" to get at the partition inside it, and >

Re: Resizing LVM partitions

2024-01-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:59:55PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > On 1/22/24 6:59 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 03:40:06PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:29:55AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > lvreduce --size -50G --resizefs /

Re: Resizing LVM partitions

2024-01-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 12:29:18AM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > Dunno ... in any case, for some reason the rescue mode I went to by booting > from an old installation CD (dated back to Debian 6.0.1A Squeeze!) did not > see partitions in form of e.g. /dev/mapper/localhost-home, but rather >

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 11:17:34AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Since mdadm can only put its superblock at the end of the device (1.0), > at the beginning of the device (1.1) and 4 Ko from the beginning (1.2), > but they still have not invented 1.3 to have the metadata 17 Ko from the > begin

On the deprecation of separate /usr (Was: Re: Resizing LVM partitions)

2024-01-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 09:20:47AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > Notice that separate /usr is not supported by latest systemd that should be > a part of the next Debian release. I don't think this is the case. What I think is not supported is a separate /usr that is not mounted by initramfs.

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Nicolas, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 08:49:06AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Tim Woodall (12024-01-26): > > Until your UEFI bios writes to the disk before the system has booted. > > Hi. Have you ever observed an UEFI firmware doing that? Without explicit > admin instructions? Going back to my q

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 10:09:53AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Andy Smith (12024-01-26): > > The "firmware may write to it" thing was raised as a concern by a > > few people,but always a theoretical one from what I could see. > > Now that I think a little

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 01:18:53PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > Hardware raid that the bios cannot subvert is obviously one solution. These days the different trade-offs for HW RAID are IMHO worse. I left it behind in 2014 and don't intend to go back. 😀 Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.co

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 08:40:42AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/26/24 08:19, Tim Woodall wrote: > > Hardware raid that the bios cannot subvert is obviously one solution. > > > Is nearly the only solution, If the problem to be solved is defined as redundancy for the ESP, there are a b

Home UPS recommendations (Was Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after)

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:11:39PM +0100, hw wrote: > I've never had issues with any UPS due to self tests. The batteries > need to be replaced when they are worn out. How often that is > required depends on the UPS and the conditions it is working in, > usually every 3--5 years. Out of int

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:50:00PM +0100, hw wrote: > How do you make the BIOS read the EFI partition when it's on mdadm > RAID? If MD superblock is at a part of device not used by filesystem (e.g. the end) and it is a RAID-1, each member device is indistinguishable from FAT filesystem wit

Postponed publickey before Accepted publickey - what's happening there then?

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I typically have logcheck send me anomalous logs. In the last week, all Debian 10 machines (I know, I know, upgrade needed) started logging this whenever I logged in from a particular other host by SSH: 2024-01-27T07:59:42.003881+00:00 t.example.com sshd[12319]: Postponed publickey for root

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Hans, On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 10:23:09AM +0100, Hans wrote: > I see this exactly as you and are watching this list for may years. I'm not sure who you're replying to as you've removed those details, though I may guess from your In-Reply-To header which doesn't point to a list message. You have

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 11:05:30AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > It is hard to understand how what Michael/Sophie/Tobias does can in > > any way be "fun" for them, though maybe that is just our lack of > > understanding. > >

Re: Postponed publickey before Accepted publickey - what's happening there then?

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 09:55:16AM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 27 Jan 2024 08:12 +, from a...@strugglers.net (Andy Smith): > > This only happens when I log in as root using a public key, i.e. > > > > ssh -i /path/to/pubkey r...@t.example.com &g

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 05:17:14PM +0100, hw wrote: > Ok if Andy and you are right, you could reasonably boot machines with > an UEFI BIOS when using mdadm RAID :) I've been doing it for more than two decades, though not with UEFI. > How is btrfs going to deal with this problem when using RA

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, Keeping all this context because I don't actually see how the response matches the context and so I might have missed something… On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 11:54:05AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > hw wrote: > > How is btrfs going to deal with this problem when using RAID? Require > > hardware RAI

Re: Home UPS recommendations (Was Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after)

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, Thanks, this is very useful. On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 06:58:08PM +0100, hw wrote: > However, stay away from their cheap models as seen on this[1] picture > (Back UPS). They work and you can replace the batteries yourself even > though you're not supposed to. It's a minimum basic device. It

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 09:03:50PM +0100, hw wrote: > Show me any installer for Linux distributions that handles this > sufficently without further ado. That was the question I posed several posts back: what do people do for redundant ESP. > When you don't use btrfs, you have either hardw

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 09:09:17PM +0100, hw wrote: > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 17:32 +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > If someone DOES want a script option that solves that problem, a > > couple of actual working scripts were supplied in the link I gave to > &g

Re: Stop packagekitd from downloading updates

2024-01-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 04:42:18PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 04:31:02PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I self-inflicted this by installing [unattended-upgrades] so many years ago? > > It's a dependency of some/most(?) desktop environments, I think. I > doubt

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 05:28:56PM +0100, hw wrote: > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 21:55 +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 09:09:17PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 17:32 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > If someone DOES want a script o

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-31 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 09:50:23PM +0100, hw wrote: > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 23:53 +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > > I think you should read it again until you find the part where it > > clearly states what the problem is with using MD RAID for this. If > > you still can'

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-02-03 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 02:41:38PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > There is an alternative to hardware RAID if you want a Linux RAID: you can > disable UEFI in the BIOS and delete the ESP as I did when I bought my gaming > PC several years ago. I have storage devices which legacy BIOS cannot

Re: Mixing HDD and SSD in lvm

2024-02-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 09:04:13AM +0100, Hans wrote: > I am not sure, if it is possible, to do same in LVM. As far as I know, LVM > must also set the corrct devicenames in correct order, mustn't it? Neither LVM nor MD will have a problem with member devices changing their device path as the

Re: Mixing HDD and SSD in lvm

2024-02-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 11:03:03AM +0100, Basti wrote: > If you use mdadm for RAID you can mark the slower disk as 'write-mostly' to > get more read speed. Both (MD) RAID-1 and RAID-10 will work this out by themselves, by the way, and tend to read from the fastest device. I have benchmarked

Re: Mixing HDD and SSD in lvm

2024-02-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 12:18:26PM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: > My main concern is if speed differences between SSD and HDD in one lvm > can make any problems. The default allocation policy for LVM ("normal") is to use an arbitrary PV that has space. So this means that unless you say so, you w

Re: Home UPS recommendations (Was Re: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 06:55:04PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > So, I must admit, I am quite tempted by BX1600MI which would cost me > about £183. The equivalent spec in the Pro range is more than twice > this price. [ TL;DR: While free software like apcupsd or nut support all APC

Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 03:30:29PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > [629241.074187] scsi host37: usb-storage 1-2:1.0 USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say they use it all the time and it is fine. They will ke

Re: Things I don't touch with a 3.048m barge pole: USB storage (Was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2024-02-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 11:14:24AM -0500, Gremlin wrote: > On 2/8/24 10:36, Andy Smith wrote: > > USB storage is for phones and cameras etc, not for serious > > computing. Many people will disagree with that statement and say > > they use it all the time and it is fine.

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