Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/02/2025 02:07, Greg Wooledge wrote: Start with aptitude(8). Instead of talking about some "aptitude reference manual", it should just say "see apt-patterns(7)". No, it should not. Query languages are similar, but still are not identical

Re: SMTP servers

2025-02-04 Thread Tom Browder
On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 11:10 Chris Green wrote: > ... > > Has anyone been able to buy the ebook and convert it to Kindle > > satisfactorily? > > > No, it's one of the reasons I use Kobo readers, they are much more > friendly to standard format e-publishing. Thank you very much, Chris--that's w

hardware ebook readers (was Re: SMTP servers)

2025-02-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Feb 4, 2025 at 6:25 PM GMT, Tom Browder wrote: But, can your Kobo reader handle the Kindle format? What model do you recommend? Chiming in: I love my Kobo Libra 2, which I think is now discontinued and replaced with the Kobo Libra Colour. It cannot read the kindle format natively (mo

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 09:52:03AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 12:18:10AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 10:39:25PM +, Automætic wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm configuring a new Debian installation on my workstation, with both > > > the

Re: WLAN with /etc/network/interfaces

2025-02-04 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On Tue, 2025-02-04 at 07:05 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > Rainer, > > I believe others have responded. > > Just for my curiosity, Is Network Manager installed?  Would you be > able to use nmclli to set a static IP address? Or maybe systemctl ? I was going to respond with something similar yes

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Mike Castle
On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 4:04 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > apt list '~o' Where is '~o' documented? apt(1) mentions dpkg-query, but I couldn't find it mentioned there either. I'm pretty sure I've seen it somewhere, but I couldn't find it when I saw this command mentioned previously in this thread

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Mike Castle
Also, I don't think there should be any need to run it as root. And sorry for the bad line wrapping.

Re: SMTP servers

2025-02-04 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 12:37 Thomas Anderson < thomas.ander...@little-beak.com> wrote: > I also belong to the group of long time mailserver owners. I started it ... I just bought the hard copy of the new book. I use Kindle also and would love to buy it, but the author doesn't sell his books in t

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 08:12:42 -0800, Mike Castle wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 4:04 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > apt list '~o' > > Where is '~o' documented? apt(1) mentions dpkg-query, but I couldn't > find it mentioned there either. It's documented as part of "aptitude", I believe, but

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 11:23:58AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 08:12:42 -0800, Mike Castle wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 4:04 AM Andrew M.A. Cater > > wrote: > > > apt list '~o' > > > > Where is '~o' documented? apt(1) mentions dpkg-query, but I couldn't > > find i

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Mike Castle
On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 8:34 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 08:12:42 -0800, Mike Castle wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 4:04 AM Andrew M.A. Cater > > wrote: > > > apt list '~o' > > > > Where is '~o' documented? apt(1) mentions dpkg-query, but I couldn't > > find it mention

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 08:43:28AM -0800, Mike Castle wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 8:34 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 08:12:42 -0800, Mike Castle wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 4:04 AM Andrew M.A. Cater > > > wrote: > > > > apt list '~o' > > > > > > Where is '~o

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 10:39:25PM +, Automætic wrote: > Hi, > > I'm configuring a new Debian installation on my workstation, with both the > /boot partition and the root filesystem encrypted: > - /dev/nvme0n1p1 -> /EFI > - /dev/nvme0n1p2 -> LUKS2 (pbkdf2) -> /boot > - /dev/nvme0n1p3 -> LUKS2

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 11:33:50PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 2/3/25 21:10, Mike Castle wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 5:16 PM Loren M. Lang wrote: > > > Basically, I want to identify any software that I couldn't reinstall on > > > a fresh install of Debian from the official Debian archive

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread gene heskett
On 2/4/25 00:02, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 23:33:50 -0500, gene heskett wrote:  gene@coyote:/$ sudo -i root@coyote:~# comm -23 <(dpkg-query -W -f '${Package} ${Version}\n' | sort -u) <(apt-cache dumpavail | awk '/^Package:/ {package = $NF} /^Version:/ {version = $NF} /^$/ {pr

Re: add user to a group and logout/login to apply

2025-02-04 Thread Vasyl Vavrychuk
On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 4:27 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 02/02/2025 22:51, Vasyl Vavrychuk wrote: > > On the other hand, I've checked that with Debian 12 and GNOME it is > > not enough to logout and login to see that a user is added to a group. > > > > Any comments? > > Wait a bit longer before ne

Re: WLAN with /etc/network/interfaces

2025-02-04 Thread Anssi Saari
George at Clug writes: > iptables (which I like), nftables (which I ask, Why?) For a few years now, well, almost a decade, iptables has been a hollow shell with nftables inside. Why nftables? Because it unifies firewall for ipv4, ipv6 and bridges, so we don't need to have separate iptables, ip6t

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread didier gaumet
Hello, From what I understand, a year ago, grub2 upstream LUKS2 support was still only initial and thus not complete: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?55093 So it still probably better to stick with LUKS1 for /boot for now

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/02/2025 23:12, Mike Castle wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 4:04 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: apt list '~o' Where is '~o' documented? - https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#obsolete - apt-patterns(7) However "aptitude search" is a bit more pow

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Mike Castle
On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 8:47 AM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Mentioning dselect - that will give you all the obsolete packages it > can't find - usually at the top of the interface but it does need > some degree of expertise to unravel what it shows. > > (I just used dselect to find obscure packages

Re: SMTP servers

2025-02-04 Thread Chris Green
Tom Browder wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 18 lines --] > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 12:37 Thomas Anderson < > thomas.ander...@little-beak.com> wrote: > > > I also belong to the group of long time mailserver owners. I started it > > ... > > I just bought the hard copy of

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 16:44:06 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 11:23:58AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > includes this paragraph (buried deep, searching for ~ eventually gets > > to it): > > > >

Re: WLAN with /etc/network/interfaces

2025-02-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/02/2025 21:01, Rainer Dorsch wrote: root@outdoor:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces [...] auto wlan0 Is there a chance that "allow-hotplug wlan0" might help? I use NetworkManager for WiFi interfaces, so my remarks may have no sense. Simply ignore them that case. My expectation is that hot

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread David Wright
On Tue 04 Feb 2025 at 12:15:32 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 00:00:13 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > - apt-patterns(7) > > Why isn't this linked/referenced from apt(8) or apt-get(8) or aptitude(8)? > I just checked all three, and it's not on any of them. > > That's slight

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 12:15:32PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 00:00:13 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > - apt-patterns(7) > > Why isn't this linked/referenced from apt(8) or apt-get(8) or aptitude(8)? > I just checked all three, and it's not on any of them. It is reference

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 11:25:46 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 04 Feb 2025 at 12:15:32 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 00:00:13 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > - apt-patterns(7) > > > > Why isn't this linked/referenced from apt(8) or apt-get(8) or aptitude(8)? > > I

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 11:04:16 -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 12:15:32PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 00:00:13 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > - apt-patterns(7) > > > > Why isn't this linked/referenced from apt(8) or apt-get(8) or aptitude(8)? >

Re: SMTP servers

2025-02-04 Thread Chris Green
Tom Browder wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: UTF-8, 19 lines --] > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 11:10 Chris Green wrote: > > > ... > > > > Has anyone been able to buy the ebook and convert it to Kindle > > > satisfactorily? > > > > > No, it's one of the reasons I use Kobo readers,

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 3 Feb 2025, Loren M. Lang wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 11:09:58AM +, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Loren, On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 11:29:45PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: I am looking for a way to find all packages that have been installed on my system according to dpkg, but don't have a m

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

2025-02-04 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 11:04:16 -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 12:15:32PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 00:00:13 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > - apt-patterns(7) > > > > > > Why isn't this linked/referenced from

Re: hardware ebook readers (was Re: SMTP servers)

2025-02-04 Thread Chris Green
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > One thing I like about the Kobo is how hackable it is. I've got > syncthing on mine, so to add a book to it I merely have to copy the file > to my local folder, and syncthing does the rest. > Now that's neat, I use syncthing on other systems, adding it to my Kobo Fo

Re: hardware ebook readers

2025-02-04 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 07:34:48PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Feb 4, 2025 at 6:25 PM GMT, Tom Browder wrote: > > But, can your Kobo reader handle the Kindle format? > > > > What model do you recommend? > > Chiming in: I love my Kobo Libra 2, which I think is now discontinued and > re

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 12:18:10AM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2025 at 10:39:25PM +, Automætic wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm configuring a new Debian installation on my workstation, with both the > > /boot partition and the root filesystem encrypted: > > - /dev/nvme0n1p1 -> /EF

Re: Encrypted /boot partition gets decrypted twice during boot

2025-02-04 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2025-02-03, Automætic wrote: > Both devices are properly configured in /etc/crypttab with the UUIDs > for /dev/nvme0n1p2 and /dev/nvme0n1p3 respectively (as outputted by > blkid). You set this manually ? > I checked the initramfs contents using 'unmkinitramfs' in > /tmp/initramfs/ to review m