debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Bitfox
Hi I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb ram. for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? Thanks.

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Nov 2024 17:30 +0800, from h...@bitfox.ddns.net (Bitfox): > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? Bookworm (in other words, Stable). https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd6

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 05:30:08PM +0800, Bitfox wrote: > Hi > > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? > > Thanks. > Whatever your VPS vendor will support on their hardware. Debian

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 05:30:08PM +0800, Bitfox wrote: > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? The current one, bookworm, unless you mean something else by "release"... Cheers, Tom

DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/22/24 12:57 AM, Michael Paoli wrote: How do I disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate on Debian 12? [snip very detailed of his environment/symptoms] I recently jumped from Debian 9(w/MATE) - 12(w/MATE) in one step. My Debian 9 settings can be traced back to Debian 6(w/Gnome). I don'

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Paoli
Wikipedia has some pretty good materials, e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI#Power_states and see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_mode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_(computing) In my case it's going to S3 (at least apparently from the log messages and observed behavior)

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 17:30:08 +0800, Bitfox wrote: > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? They probably install Debian on it for you; you usually don't get to run the installer yo

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > Michael mentioned https://wiki.debian.org/Suspend and I found > https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation . > > I, and other inexperienced users, need proper definitions of > sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc to use those pages and solutions to be > described here. Definitions c

Re: FreedomBox and Nextcloud

2024-11-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Hi all. I have installed FreedomBox from stable and on 1st run was sad to > see that Nextcloud isn't included as an app to install on FreedomBox! While FreedomBox is designed to provide easy access only to applications that are part of Debian, and Nextcloud is *not* part of Debian, it so happen

Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread The David
We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are moving to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to recover this without losing data? Thank you. Sincerely, David Have a good day!

Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/11/2024 13:57, Michael Paoli wrote: seems to be a very deep form of sleep, the only things I can do at that point that at all gets it to respond: - which does a warm reboot Does not like suspend to RAM or suspend to disk (hibernate). It resembles graphics issues. Can you connect

SOLVED (I think): Re: new Xerox printer doesn't print

2024-11-22 Thread D. R. Evans
D. R. Evans wrote on 11/19/24 09:38: I have recently added a Xerox C325 multifunction printer to my home LAN. When I originally plugged it in and ran some quick print tests from my Debian stable system, everything seemed to be fine. But now, a few days later, I can no longer persuade it to print

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Paoli
Thanks. Still haven't found way to prevent sleep/hibernate/etc, but FYI: $ (cd /sys/power && grep . mem_sleep state) mem_sleep:s2idle [deep] state:freeze mem disk $ On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 5:15 AM wrote: > Definitions can be found at > https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/pm/sleep-states.html > Ot

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread eben
On 11/22/24 11:56, The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are moving > to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to recover this > without losing data? Thank you. Boot off rescue media, mount the victim's / partition somewhere, the

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:56:23 + The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are > moving to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway > to recover this without losing data? Thank you. You can boot the machine with a live system, mount t

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Dan Ritter
e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/22/24 11:56, The David wrote: > > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are > > moving to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to > > recover this without losing data? Thank you. > > Boot off rescue media, mount the vic

Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 22:57:35 (-0800), Michael Paoli wrote: > remove power (and it goes down cold - laptop battery no longer holds >charge and has been that way for many years now - cannot withstand so >much as even a full second of power interruption). Yes, I have three laptops like t

Re: ot: firefox password manager

2024-11-22 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/11/24 02:16, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: i'm using the latest release of firefox, 132.0.2 it's very annoying i use the password manager and have a password previously firefox would ask for my password when i start it now it ask for my password every time i encounter a site login screen i

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Anssi Saari
Michael Kjörling writes: > I have successfully booted Debian Bookworm (without a GUI) on VMs with > slightly less than 256 MB RAM, so 512 MB should be plenty. I guess that depends. I remember having a cheap or free trial VPS for a month with just 512 MB. Git ran out of RAM trying to check out th

Re: SOLVED (I think): Re: new Xerox printer doesn't print

2024-11-22 Thread jeremy ardley
On 22/11/24 23:20, D. R. Evans wrote: To my simple mind that suggests that some auto-configuration magic that is supposed to happen when the new printer was plugged into the network was not handled correctly by debian stable. I have a Fuji-Xerox printer (they are Brother printers under th

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I guess that depends. I remember having a cheap or free trial VPS for a > month with just 512 MB. Git ran out of RAM trying to check out the Linux I can confirm that even 1GB of RAM is not really sufficient to use a Git repository that tracks the Linux kernel (I've so far been able to do it on m

Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 1:48 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 22:57:35 (-0800), Michael Paoli wrote: > > > remove power (and it goes down cold - laptop battery no longer holds > >charge and has been that way for many years now - cannot withstand so > >much as even a full

ot: firefox password manager

2024-11-22 Thread fxkl47BF
i'm using the latest release of firefox, 132.0.2 it's very annoying i use the password manager and have a password previously firefox would ask for my password when i start it now it ask for my password every time i encounter a site login screen is there a way stop this without disabling my passwor

Re: SOLVED (I think): Re: new Xerox printer doesn't print

2024-11-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 1:27 PM D. R. Evans wrote: > > D. R. Evans wrote on 11/19/24 09:38: > > I have recently added a Xerox C325 multifunction printer to my home LAN. > > > > When I originally plugged it in and ran some quick print tests from my > > Debian > > stable system, everything seemed t

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 05:30:08PM +0800, Bitfox wrote: > I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only 512mb > ram. > for this limited ram what debian release should be better to install? Although the smallest VM we sell to customers is 1.5GiB RAM, I have some of our ow

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, While people here can and will attempt to talk you through resolving your problem… On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 04:56:23PM +, The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company This is an ancient kernel version and 32-bit (as denoted by 686-pae) is also inadvisab

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Nov 2024 21:54 +0200, from anssi.sa...@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi (Anssi Saari): >> I have successfully booted Debian Bookworm (without a GUI) on VMs with >> slightly less than 256 MB RAM, so 512 MB should be plenty. > > I guess that depends. I remember having a cheap or free trial VPS for a

Re: sudo question

2024-11-22 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Thursday 21 November 2024 02:16:48 pm Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 19:55:04 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 06:44:37PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > If it helps, "sponge" (in the moreutils package) seems to offer the right > > >

Re: sudo question

2024-11-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 15:25:49 -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > Why would you want to append to a file that some other program is also > writing to? Sounds messy... Opening a file in append mode has the following behavior: O_APPEND The file is opened in append mode

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/11/2024 01:11, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 22 Nov 2024 12:40 -0500, from e...@gmx.us: Boot off rescue media, mount the victim's / partition somewhere, then edit /etc/shadow to change the second field (deliminated by colons) to the null string.[...] If what you are talking about is instead

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Paoli
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 9:27 AM The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are moving > to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to recover this > without losing data? Thank you. Yikes! That kernel goes back to Debian 7 - released 2

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 04:26:05AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/22/24 12:57 AM, Michael Paoli wrote: > > I recently jumped from Debian 9(w/MATE) - 12(w/MATE) in one step. > My Debian 9 settings can be traced back to Debian 6(w/Gnome). > I don't recall what settings I ended up with. > But I

Re: SOLVED (I think): Re: new Xerox printer doesn't print

2024-11-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 7:57 PM jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 22/11/24 23:20, D. R. Evans wrote: > > > > To my simple mind that suggests that some auto-configuration magic that > > is supposed to happen when the new printer was plugged into the network > > was not handled correctly by debian stable.

Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Paoli
Thanks, my responses in-line below (also restored some of the earlier that was removed from original, and included full original at tail end of this email): On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 5:02 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > On 22/11/2024 13:57, Michael Paoli wrote: > > all network activity ceases (very bad as

Re: Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-22 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 16 Nov 2024, Patrice Duroux wrote: That's why I ended up with the suffix and letting the sysadmin (often me, with a different hat on ;-) making that preference explicit in the APT machinery. But could it be the a nice feature for apt to have a list apart on the upgrading (I would say

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Bitfox
In addition to platform concerns, you'll have to figure out what you're running on this VPS, how to make it all fit within the available RAM (with or without swap), and which Debian version(s) support your applications. Do you think if it's suitable to run a apache2 + php7 server for my per

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Nov 2024 22:49 +0800, from h...@bitfox.ddns.net (Bitfox): > Do you think if it's suitable to run a apache2 + php7 server for my personal > project (not wordpress)? I would say no; for the simple reason that it appears that no PHP 7 release is currently supported upstream. -- Michael Kjörli

Re: debian for limited ram

2024-11-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I got a vps from BF flash sale (vps dot blackfriday) which has only > 512mb ram. for this limited ram what debian release should be better > to install? All Debian releases are generally quite good for limited RAM circumstances. IME the main limit is the RAM used by `apt`, so for machines with

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 04:56:23PM +, The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are moving > to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to recover this > without losing data? Thank you. Which password? If it is some user's or root

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Nov 2024 12:40 -0500, from e...@gmx.us: >> We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We >> are moving to another state and we forgot the password. Is there >> anyway to recover this without losing data? Thank you. > > Boot off rescue media, mount the victim's / partition