Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

On 2024-08-25, Eric Richards wrote: > Hello > As the Subject says Any good Debian books highly recommended or Linux for > that matter. > > I found one the other day Debian 12, it only had a one star review and the > buyer wishes he could get his money back Very good book based on bullseye, freel

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

I can hardly believe it's been 20 years since you wrote that. We're all getting old! It's good to see your name on the mailing lists again! -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support current Debian release. I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. Processors identified by running lscpu: Machine 1: Architecture: i686 Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 540 @ 2.53GHz Machi

Re: Debian hardware: coping with Windows

On 26/08/24 at 05:39, Will Mengarini wrote: I need to buy a new desktop tower, which means it'll have Windows installed. I haven't used Windows since the 90s, so need some guidance. There is Tuxedo Computers that sells PC with Linux preinstalled. https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en Ch

Re: Laptop keeps powering off

On 25/08/24 at 19:37, Joe B wrote: root@debian:~# sensors pch_skylake-virtual-0 I've heard that Intel has instability issue for some of his processors: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Information-on-stability-problems-with-Raptor-Lake-CPUs.tuxedo Could you verify with: ~$ cat /proc/cpuinf

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > > I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. > Processors identified by running lscpu: > > Machine 1: > Architecture: i686 > Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 13:06, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > > I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. To add to Dan's reply: https://www.debian.org/ports/ https://www.debian.org/ports/a

Windows Update and dual booting linux

Hi, I noticed the below issue today. I think it only affects certain configuration of dual booting so not too many people should be affected. Does anyone know of people who have been affected? https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/21/24225108/microsoft-security-update-windows-linux-dual-boot-erro

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

> Will the OS linked to by https://www.debian.org/ run on all three? Yes, on all three, both using the i386 (which is being phased out) or the amd64 ports. Stefan

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

On 08/27/2024 08:14 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support current Debian release. I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. Processors identified by running lscpu: Machine 1: Architecture: i686 Model

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On 8/26/24 12:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. [...] You have provided lots of details which don't help u

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 10:14:59AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/26/24 12:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Assuming, again, you are under X11, there is "xset s off" [...] > That apparently turned it off for this boot. Good news! [...] > so It is always turned off? I think its runnin

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

On 08/27/2024 08:36 AM, David wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 13:06, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support current Debian release. I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. To add to Dan's reply: https://www.debian.org/por

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

On Aug 27, 2024, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > > I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. > Processors identified by running lscpu: > > Machine 1: > Architecture: i686 > Model name: Int

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:16 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable. > Processors ident

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/27/2024 08:14 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > > > current Debian release. ... > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch02s01.en.html > > That was the USELESS pag

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/27/2024 08:36 AM, David wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 at 13:06, Richard Owlett > > wrote: > >> I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors > >> support current Debian release. > >> > >> I have three machines whose processors are 64 bit capable.

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On 8/26/24 12:46, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. [...] You have provided lots of details which don't help u

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do that to me again. Seems like, in XFCE, you need to go into settings and disable the screensaver. Good luck! That I'm assuming is canceled

Re: First impressions of Debian and Debian users matter to others

El viernes, 23 de agosto de 2024, Andrew M.A. Cater escribió: > On behalf of the Community Team > > People, > > We need to be more understanding of people who can't articulate problems > and people who may be encountering Debian for the first time. No matter how > good and expert any one of us is,

Re: DEBIAN documentation: which 64 bit processors run current release?

вт, 27 авг. 2024 г. в 21:26, Richard Owlett : > > I'm looking for for where *Debian* documents which processors support > current Debian release. > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch02s01.en.html """ 2.1.2. CPU Support Both AMD64 and Intel 64 processors are supported. """ Debian is n

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On 8/26/24 14:09, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2024, gene heskett wrote: rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, which controls all 255 volt power to an

Re: need help killing screen blanker

gene heskett composed on 2024-08-27 10:14 (UTC-0400): > tomas@ wrote: >> Assuming, again, you are under X11, there is "xset s off", which would >> disable the screensaver *and* the DPMS blanking. See the xset man page >> for all the gory details. This [1] is a good overview for all the >> other t

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 01:56:43PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2024-08-27 10:14 (UTC-0400): > > > tomas@ wrote: > > >> Assuming, again, you are under X11, there is "xset s off", which would > >> disable the screensaver *and* the DPMS blanking. See the xset man page > >> f

printer paused: filter not avaiable

I upgraded to testing, but had a problem with the testing version of CUPS, so downgraded CUPS to its stable version. Can't print because printer is paused. It is paused because my printer is paused because: "File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/gstopxl" not available: No such file or directory"

Re: printer paused: filter not avaiable

On 27 Aug 2024 14:06 -0400, from hai...@histomat.net (Haines Brown): > I upgraded to testing, but had a problem with the testing version > of CUPS, so downgraded CUPS to its stable version. How, _exactly_, did you perform that downgrade? In effect, it sounds like what you have now is a mix of Bo

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On 8/26/24 14:25, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: rpib runniing bookworm. Private net. rt-preempt kernel. Security is a closed garage door and lead projectiles for unwanted guests. Gene, First things first: where did the image come from?

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On 8/26/24 14:37, David Wright wrote: On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 10:29:10 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, [ … ] came across a dangerous situation yesterday. Basically using the lathe as a jig to hold a long piece I was tapping by hand, powered up but stopped. screen bla

Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

Dear list, over the many years we got different tools for upgrading debian in the commandline. These tools behave differently and also we get different results, when eecuting. First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or apt-get full-upgrade does a good job.

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 02:44:52PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/26/24 14:25, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:29:10AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > Gene, > > > > First things first: where did the image come from? > > 32 or 64 bit? Exact version string from uname -

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

On Tuesday, 27 August 2024 15:03:02 -04 Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > over the many years we got different tools for upgrading debian in the > commandline. These tools behave differently and also we get different > results, when eecuting. > > First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. > apt-get

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 09:03:02PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > This is somehow rather irritating! > > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and upgrading is > used in a script, so that it causes as little as possible pain? > apt-get is potentially the most basic

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

On 27 Aug 2024 21:03 +0200, from hans.ullr...@loop.de (Hans): > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and upgrading is > used in a script, so that it causes as little as possible pain? apt-get and friends, including the dpkg set of tools if necessary. I believe apt even pri

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:03:02 +0200 Hans wrote: > Dear list, > > over the many years we got different tools for upgrading debian in > the commandline. These tools behave differently and also we get > different results, when eecuting. > > First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. > apt-get up

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

On 27 Aug 2024 19:28 +, from amaca...@einval.com (Andrew M.A. Cater): > apt-get [...] is recommended for upgrading between Debian major releases. Is it, though? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#updating-lists https://www.debian.org/releases/stab

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

On 28/8/24 03:03, Hans wrote: Dear list, over the many years we got different tools for upgrading debian in the commandline. These tools behave differently and also we get different results, when eecuting. First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or apt-get f

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

Hi, On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 04:25:20AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 28/8/24 03:03, Hans wrote: > > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and upgrading is > > used in a script, so that it causes as little as possible pain? […] > apt update && apt full-upgrade -y && apt auto

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 5:36 PM Hans wrote: > > Dear list, > > over the many years we got different tools for upgrading debian in the > commandline. These tools behave differently and also we get different results, > when eecuting. > > First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. > apt-get update,

Is anybody maintaining nedit?

Is anybody maintaining nedit? There's a list of developers on the "Help => Version" menu but no addresses. The "Help => problems and defects" and "Help => Version" menus give a URL that lands on a site in Finland. I assume it's in Finland because it's all in Suomi, and has nothing to do with nedit

Re: Is anybody maintaining nedit?

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 5:16 PM Van Snyder wrote: > > Is anybody maintaining nedit? There's a list of developers on the "Help => > Version" menu but no addresses. > aptitude showsrc nedit Executing 'apt showsrc nedit' Package: nedit Binary: nedit Version: 1:5.7-5 Maintainer: Debian QA Group Bu

Re: Laptop keeps powering off

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 7:16 AM Franco Martelli wrote: > > On 25/08/24 at 19:37, Joe B wrote: > > root@debian:~# sensors > > pch_skylake-virtual-0 > > I've heard that Intel has instability issue for some of his processors: > > https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/Information-on-stability-problems-wi

Re: Is anybody maintaining nedit?

Hi, On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 05:16:07PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Is anybody maintaining nedit? There's a list of developers on the "Help > => Version" menu but no addresses. I assume you are asking if the upstream project is dead, rather than if it is maintained within Debian or not. I do not k

Re: Is anybody maintaining nedit?

On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 17:16:07 (-0700), Van Snyder wrote: > Although it claims to be built with locale en_US.UTF-8, it doesn't do > anything with "compose" keystrokes such as "Compose" / O to make Ø. but > it's perfectly happy to let me input them if I create them elsewhere, > such as in this mail

Re: need help killing screen blanker

On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 14:58:14 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 8/26/24 14:37, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 26 Aug 2024 at 10:29:10 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > xfce4 desktop, running linuxcnc, [ … ] > > > came across a dangerous situation yesterday. > > > > > > Basically using the lathe

Re: Is anybody maintaining nedit?

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 5:55 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 05:16:07PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > Is anybody maintaining nedit? There's a list of developers on the "Help > > => Version" menu but no addresses. > > I assume you are asking if the upstream project is dead,

Re: Is anybody maintaining nedit?

On 8/27/24 17:16, Van Snyder wrote: Is anybody maintaining nedit? There's a list of developers on the "Help => Version" menu but no addresses. The "Help => problems and defects" and "Help => Version" menus give a URL that lands on a site in Finland. I assume it's in Finland because it's all i

Re: Is anybody maintaining nedit?

On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 20:01 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Which key is Compose? I've gone to KDE System Settings => Keyboard => Advanced => Position of compose key and selected the right-ALT key. > In nedit, does it do whatever is engraved on it, or whatever the Highlight something with left drag

laptop installs

In the case of two of the three laptops I have here to play with, it's simply a matter of telling it to boot off the DVD drive and then inserting the appropriate disc and going on from there. In the case of this other one, things get a little weird. On powerup I see messages referring to PXE

Re: printer paused: filter not avaiable

On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:06:48 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > I upgraded to testing, but had a problem with the testing version > of CUPS, so downgraded CUPS to its stable version. > > Can't print because printer is paused. It is paused because > my printer is paused because: > > "File "/usr/l

Re: need help killing screen blanker

>On 8/26/24 13:27, Trish Fraser wrote: >> >>> S, what do I remove to absolutely, permanently disable the >>> screen blanker? And I mean no chance it can ever do that to me >>> again. >> >> Seems like, in XFCE, you need to go into settings and disable the >> screensaver. >> >> Good luck! >>

Re: laptop installs

On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:42:22 -0400 "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." wrote: > The thing is, this machine doesn't have a DVD drive. What it does > have is a couple of USB ports (two different color connectors so I > assume different speeds?). Correct. Usually blue is USB 3.x, black 2.x. I also have a yell

Re: laptop installs

Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > In the case of two of the three laptops I have here to play with, it's > simply a matter of telling it to boot off the DVD drive and then inserting > the appropriate disc and going on from there. In the case of this other one, > things get a little weird. > > O

Re: laptop installs

Hi, On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 09:42:22PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On powerup I see messages referring to PXE, which if I remember > correctly involves booting off a network connection? Yes. You can almost certainly disable this feature in the BIOS settings if it bothers you. Typically

Re: Laptop keeps powering off

On 28/08/2024 07:52, Joe B wrote: Here is journalctl -b -1 https://termbin.com/q6uw It would be helpful if you describe specific of this boot. If it is complete log then it looks like abrupt lost of power after 20 min of working on battery. It may be battery failure of bad contact. Were yo

Re: laptop installs

On 8/27/24 21:42, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: The thing is, this machine doesn't have a DVD drive. What it does have is a couple of USB ports (two different color connectors so I assume different speeds?). I am also assuming that simply putting an iso file on to a USB stick won't quite do it.

Booting from USBs on old laptops, was Re: laptop installs

On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 21:42:22 (-0400), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > In the case of two of the three laptops I have here to play with, it's > simply a matter of telling it to boot off the DVD drive and then inserting > the appropriate disc and going on from there. In the case of this other one

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 20:32:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:03:02 +0200 Hans wrote: > > First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. > > apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or apt-get full-upgrade does a good > > job. > > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and