Re: SOLVED FOR GENE:Re: was: Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemdandtimezone]

2024-01-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2024 06 Jan 22:27 -0600, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/6/24 17:06, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2024 06 Jan 14:34 -0600, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 1/6/24 14:33, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Try manpages.org . > > > > > > That is downright tasty stuff, bookmarked, thank you John. > > > > For u

Re: SOLVED FOR GENE

2024-01-07 Thread Felix Miata
Nate Bargmann composed on 2024-01-07 05:04 (UTC-0600): > the text size of a Web page can be increased with Ctrl-+ (works on > Firefox and Chromium, likely others). Doing so is called a defensive response, something to be expected in response to (needless) offensive behavior. Browsers have default

Re: SOLVED FOR GENE

2024-01-07 Thread jeremy ardley
On 7/1/24 19:37, Felix Miata wrote: Doing so is called a defensive response, something to be expected in response to (needless) offensive behavior. Browsers have default fonts selectable by users for good reason. Websites shouldn't be assuming user settings are wrong. Using Debian 12 I rece

Re: SOLVED FOR GENE

2024-01-07 Thread john doe
On 1/7/24 13:00, jeremy ardley wrote: On 7/1/24 19:37, Felix Miata wrote: Please stop this unreadable pointless thread. -- John Doe

serial-getty@ttyS0.service does not start

2024-01-07 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hello, I tried to start a serial console on ttyS0, but when I try to start the serial-getty service, it does not return: root@master:~# systemctl status serial-getty@ttyS0.service ○ serial-getty@ttyS0.service - Serial Getty on ttyS0 Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.servic

Re: xfce screen detachment

2024-01-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Russell L. Harris wrote: > system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor > > I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than > "detachment". About every week or so, when using the rodent, the > entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the m

systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/01/2024 02:17, gene heskett wrote: If debian is going to supply systemd's timesyncd as a client, I expected a bookworm install to just work. It did not and without docs I have to pester the list, which has gotten me a bad rep because the lack of docs for this stuff has me in a screw googl

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Lately, everytime I go anywhere near google or a gmail link I get > attacked by a virus that calls itself norton antivirus. Delete all your Firefox caches and upgrade Firefox. That phishing malware has nothing to do with Google or Norton. You acquired it by visiting an infected or

Re: Possibly broken Grub or initrd after updates on Testing

2024-01-07 Thread David Wright
On Thu 04 Jan 2024 at 19:49:43 (+0100), Richard Rosner wrote: > On 04.01.24 19:02, David Wright wrote: > > Could you post the new grub.cfg file, so that people running testing, > > and following along the thread later, can see how boot-repair fixed it? > > Keep in mind, this is based on the assump

Re: systemd-boot not asking password, not resuming from hibernate

2024-01-07 Thread David Wright
On Sat 06 Jan 2024 at 20:04:57 (+0100), Richard Rosner wrote: > I just tried out systemd-boot. What I noticed, it doesn't ask for my > decryption password to decrypt both my LUKS2 encrypted root and swap > partition. This kinda defeats the purpose of encrypted drives. How do > I have systemd-boot f

Re: tzdata-legacy [was: Re: systemd and timezone]

2024-01-07 Thread David Wright
On Sat 06 Jan 2024 at 02:57:53 (-0600), Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2024 06 Jan 01:00 -0600, Max Nikulin wrote: > > US/Eastern & Co has been moved to tzdata-legacy as well. Currently used > > identifiers are based on cities: America/New_York. > > Ugghhh! > > I guess I'll be going to the legacy pa

Re: Possibly broken Grub or initrd after updates on Testing

2024-01-07 Thread Richard Rosner
On 07.01.24 18:07, David Wright wrote: I compared your new grub.cfg with mine (suitably decimated and edited) and the significant differences are very few; extra modules are loaded: cryptodisk, luks2, gcry_rijndael, gcry_rijndael and gcry_sha256. Myset root='hd0,gpt5' is replaced by set ro

Re: Possibly broken Grub or initrd after updates on Testing

2024-01-07 Thread Richard Rosner
On 04.01.24 19:49, Richard Rosner wrote: On 04.01.24 19:02, David Wright wrote: Could you post the new grub.cfg file, so that people running testing, and following along the thread later, can see how boot-repair fixed it? Cheers, David. Let's hope the mailing list let's this go through. It d

Re: systemd-boot not asking password, not resuming from hibernate

2024-01-07 Thread Richard Rosner
On 07.01.24 18:07, David Wright wrote: On Sat 06 Jan 2024 at 20:04:57 (+0100), Richard Rosner wrote: I just tried out systemd-boot. What I noticed, it doesn't ask for my decryption password to decrypt both my LUKS2 encrypted root and swap partition. This kinda defeats the purpose of encrypted dr

OT: coloured text?

2024-01-07 Thread Hans
Hi folks, just a short question, please allow me to ask: How can I get coloured text output in a shell script? I am using: echo "my text bla" As far as I read and understood, this is not possible in every shell. I found nothing in bash manual for example. Debian is using "dash" and not "b

Re: OT: coloured text?

2024-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 07:40:28PM +0100, Hans wrote: > How can I get coloured text output in a shell script? https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/037 > Debian is using "dash" and not "bash", if I am correct, Debian installs BOTH of them by default. Also by default, the /bin/sh symbolic link po

Re: OT: coloured text?

2024-01-07 Thread Kent West
On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 12:41 PM Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > just a short question, please allow me to ask: > > How can I get coloured text output in a shell script? > > I am using: > > echo "my text bla" > > As far as I read and understood, this is not possible in every shell. I > found > nothing

Re: OT: coloured text?

2024-01-07 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 7 Jan 2024 14:03 -0500, from g...@wooledge.org (Greg Wooledge): > The shebang tells the kernel which shell to execute to interpret your > script. So, you match it up to whichever shell you're writing for. Or perhaps rather which interpreter to use to execute the file. Examples of shebang lines

Re: OT: coloured text?

2024-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 07:12:38PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 7 Jan 2024 14:03 -0500, from g...@wooledge.org (Greg Wooledge): > > The shebang tells the kernel which shell to execute to interpret your > > script. So, you match it up to whichever shell you're writing for. > > Or perhaps ra

Re: OT: coloured text?

2024-01-07 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 7 Jan 2024 14:20 -0500, from g...@wooledge.org (Greg Wooledge): >> Examples of shebang lines which aren't for "shells" in the traditional >> sense might be: >> >> #!/usr/sbin/nft -f >> >> #!/usr/bin/env python3 >> >> #!/usr/bin/perl > > Python and perl are both scripting languages. I don't

Re: Replace Grub with rEFInd [WAS Possibly broken Grub or initrd after updates on Testing]

2024-01-07 Thread songbird
Richard Rosner wrote: > So, since for whatever reason Grub seems to be broken beyond repair, I > today tried to just replace it with rEFInd. Installation succeeded > without any trouble. But when I start my system, rEFInd just asks me if > I want to boot with fwupd or with the still very broken

Re: OT: coloured text?

2024-01-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 07:28:12PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 7 Jan 2024 14:20 -0500, from g...@wooledge.org (Greg Wooledge): > >> #!/bin/sed -e 1d > > > > This is not a valid shebang. You're only permitted ONE argument after > > the interpreter name. You're going to execute /bin/sed '-

Re: Replace Grub with rEFInd [WAS Possibly broken Grub or initrd after updates on Testing]

2024-01-07 Thread Richard Rosner
On 07.01.24 20:33, songbird wrote: i see you've solved your issue, but i just wanted to point out that it works and is ok for people who want to try it out. Says who?

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread gene heskett
On 1/7/24 10:48, Max Nikulin wrote: On 07/01/2024 02:17, gene heskett wrote: If debian is going to supply systemd's timesyncd as a client, I expected a bookworm install to just work. It did not and without docs I have to pester the list, which has gotten me a bad rep because the lack of docs f

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread gene heskett
On 1/7/24 11:24, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: Lately, everytime I go anywhere near google or a gmail link I get attacked by a virus that calls itself norton antivirus. Delete all your Firefox caches and upgrade Firefox. That phishing malware has nothing to do with Google or Norton. You ac

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 02:51:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/7/24 10:48, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 07/01/2024 02:17, gene heskett wrote: > > > Is it supposed to be installed by the net-installer? There does not seem to > be any man pages other than the bog std stuff. When I found the > /et

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi Gene, Am 07.01.2024 um 20:51 schrieb gene heskett: On 1/7/24 10:48, Max Nikulin wrote: ... systemd-timesyncd is a NTP-client, not a server. It is shipped with man pages and works out of the box (of course, if network is properly configured). Is it supposed to be installed by the net-inst

Trouble with OpenSMTPD

2024-01-07 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks: I'm running Debian Bookworm, and looking to switch from Exim4 to OpenSMTPd. Here is my smtpd.conf file: --- table aliases file:/etc/aliases table secrets file:/etc/secrets listen on lo listen on eno1 # action name method options action "local" mda maildrop virtual action "relay" relay

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed. > > ^^^ > > Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? Oh, come on! Just because Gene doesn't like certain ancient Digital Equipment

Re: Trouble with OpenSMTPD

2024-01-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 17:36:12 -0500 Paul M Foster wrote: > For reason(s) I don't understand, opensmtpd will not start via > "systemctl start opensmtpd". According to "sudo smtpd -n", the > configuration file passes, but it just won't start. Have you looked to see what systemd has to say? After run

bookworm No printer, No sound

2024-01-07 Thread Thomas George
nmap finds printer ,printer ip lan address. with lan address printer's state can be read and test page printed Cups can install printer with a long ipp address, not wifi. Only the lpinfo command works, the others are deprectiated, not working so it  is not possible to set an lp destination.

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:51 PM Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > > Take care, stay warm, well, and unvaxed. > > > ^^^ > > > > Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? > > Oh, come on!

VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-07 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-07 at 19:20, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:51 PM Charles Curley > wrote: > >> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:36:12 + >> >> "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >>> Gene - no partisan opinions, please, as per Code of Conduct? >> >> Oh, come on! Just because Gene doesn't like cer

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/01/2024 02:51, gene heskett wrote: When I found the /etc/systemd/timesyncd I immediately asked the system for man timesyncd, got this: gene@coyote:/etc$ man timesyncd No manual entry for timesyncd Isn't it /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf, not /etc/systemd/timesyncd? It might be a reason why

Re: Change suspend type from kde menu

2024-01-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/01/2024 12:44, Max Nikulin wrote: setpriv --reuid 1000 --regid 1000 --init-groups --reset-env -- \    env XDG_RUNTIME_DIR="/run/user/1000" \    systemd-run --user --slice=app.slice -- \    xterm Instead of tricks with setting proper context for a process executed system-wide, I would

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/01/2024 03:36, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 02:51:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:/etc$ man timesyncd No manual entry for timesyncd What package contains the manpages for a bookworm amd64 install I expect to do anything I might want to do? apt install man

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:02:25 +0700 Max Nikulin wrote: > Isn't it /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf, not /etc/systemd/timesyncd? It > might be a reason why systemd-timesyncd did not follow configuration. It is indeed /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf. However, there is also /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf.d/, so

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2024-01-07 Thread Charles Kroeger
> Quit using Google search. Use DuckDuckGo. Use StartPage instead, aka ixquick.com -- System Information GTK 3.24.39 / GLib 2.78.3 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 6.6.9-amd64 (x86_64)

Re: xfce screen detachment

2024-01-07 Thread Mike Kupfer
Dan Ritter wrote: > Russell L. Harris wrote: > > system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor [...] > That sounds something like having an X11 screen larger than the > monitor it is on, and X panning around that. Typically, though, > panning requires the mouse to hit the

Re: xfce screen detachment

2024-01-07 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 09:32:55PM -0800, Mike Kupfer wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: Russell L. Harris wrote: > system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor [...] That sounds something like having an X11 screen larger than the monitor it is on, and X panning around that. Ty

Re: Debian on Asus X205TA [Was: Re: Installing Debian on an old Asus EEE PC]

2024-01-07 Thread Marco Moock
Am 06.01.2024 um 17:44:41 Uhr schrieb Steve McIntyre: > The amd64 installation media now includes the bits needed to start the > installer on mixed-mode UEFI systems like the Bay Trail platform in > the X205TA. Is that documented anywhere? I haven't found any information on this. The wiki only m

Re: xfce screen detachment

2024-01-07 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-01-07 04:00, Russell L. Harris wrote: system: amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than "detachment". About every week or so, when using the rodent, the entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with resp

Re: Debian on Asus X205TA [Was: Re: Installing Debian on an old Asus EEE PC]

2024-01-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 08:21:00AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 06.01.2024 um 17:44:41 Uhr schrieb Steve McIntyre: > > > The amd64 installation media now includes the bits needed to start the > > installer on mixed-mode UEFI systems like the Bay Trail platform in > > the X205TA. > > Is that doc