Okay, I'm gonna throw a bit more fuel onto this fire :-)
On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 15:58, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>
> If you ask folks like Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike, they will tell you
> all the unicorns are dead on Linux because everything is _not_ a file.
> The only safe harbor for the unicorns
I’m comforted by this friendly discussion about the old days versus the
modern generation by fellow old folks of pre-PC days.
Sort of like an afternoon gathering at the Elks or the VFW.
Thank you all.
Blessings.
-Tom
Paul Duncan writes:
> Yes, but we (on Linux and I *think* on good old System V and BSD 4.3)
> have mkfile and mkdir - so surely that means that everything (stored
> on a bit of rotating rust) is *not* a file :-)
On System III directories were files.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI U
John Hasler (12023-11-07):
> On System III directories were files.
On Linux, directories are files.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
I wrote:
> On System III directories were files.
Nicolas George writes:
> On Linux, directories are files.
Try to edit one.
On System III the same system calls operated on files and directories.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
John Hasler (12023-11-07):
> Try to edit one.
Try to edit /dev/zero.
--
Nicolas George
Greetings all;
I dunno if I've forgot how to use it, or it broken by the same bug that
killing me with the lagging access to my home raid10.
Fact: there are probably over 100 files in my /home/gene directory and
all its subs with assorted names ending in ".scad", made by OpenSCAD
Fact: I just
On 11/7/23 11:32, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
I dunno if I've forgot how to use it, or it broken by the same bug
that killing me with the lagging access to my home raid10.
Fact: there are probably over 100 files in my /home/gene directory and
all its subs with assorted names ending i
On 11/7/23 11:03, Nicolas George wrote:
John Hasler (12023-11-07):
Try to edit one.
Try to edit /dev/zero.
I once edited /dev/null ;}
--
It's not easy to be me
Am 07.11.23 um 17:32 schrieb gene heskett:
> Greetings all;
> I dunno if I've forgot how to use it, or it broken by the same bug that
> killing me with the lagging access to my home raid10.
>
> Fact: there are probably over 100 files in my /home/gene directory and
> all its subs with assorted nam
On 2023-11-07 at 11:32, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> I dunno if I've forgot how to use it, or it broken by the same bug that
> killing me with the lagging access to my home raid10.
>
> Fact: there are probably over 100 files in my /home/gene directory and
> all its subs with assorted
John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > On System III directories were files.
>
> Nicolas George writes:
> > On Linux, directories are files.
>
> Try to edit one.
vim does that, sure.
-dsr-
On Tue 07 Nov 2023 at 17:03:14 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote:
> John Hasler (12023-11-07):
> > Try to edit one.
>
> Try to edit /dev/zero.
$ nano /dev/zero
[ "/dev/zero" is a device file ]
in white on a red background. I'm not sure what that's meant to demonstrate.
Cheers,
David.
On 2023-11-07 16:32, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
I dunno if I've forgot how to use it, or it broken by the same bug
that killing me with the lagging access to my home raid10.
Fact: there are probably over 100 files in my /home/gene directory and
all its subs with assorted names ending in
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 12:58:20PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 07 Nov 2023 at 17:03:14 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote:
> > John Hasler (12023-11-07):
> > > Try to edit one.
> >
> > Try to edit /dev/zero.
>
> $ nano /dev/zero
>
> [ "/dev/zero" is a device file ]
>
> in white on a red
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
> > I wrote:
> > > On System III directories were files.
> >
> > Nicolas George writes:
> > > On Linux, directories are files.
> >
> > Try to edit one.
>
> vim does that, sure.
"/dev/zero is not a file"
Same for
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 11:32:21AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
[...]
> gene@coyote:~$ locate *.scad
> /home/gene/vac_ctrl_box.scad
> /home/gene/xhome_cable.scad
Markus and The Wanderer were spot on.
As a reminder to all: this "naked" *.scad gets already expanded
by the shell (tr
David Wright (12023-11-07):
> in white on a red background. I'm not sure what that's meant to demonstrate.
It proves nothing, either for a directory or for a device.
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-07):
> "/dev/zero is not a file"
It is lying.
Regarde,
--
Nicolas George
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 08:40:43PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-07):
> > "/dev/zero is not a file"
>
> It is lying.
tomas@trotzki:~$ file /dev/zero
/dev/zero: character special (1/5)
(note how that one stops short of saying "character special file"?
IT'S A CONSPIRACY
On 11/7/23 09:29, John Hasler wrote:
Paul Duncan writes:
Yes, but we (on Linux and I *think* on good old System V and BSD 4.3)
have mkfile and mkdir - so surely that means that everything (stored
on a bit of rotating rust) is *not* a file :-)
On System III directories were files.
And always
ahem,
(lifts late hand from back of room)
When I read the subject line, I admit to being somewhat confused.
So..searched for Unicorn, in case a new meaning existed that would explain
it.
Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while
physically capable of using Linux, might n
On 11/7/23 10:52, John Hasler wrote:
I wrote:
On System III directories were files.
Nicolas George writes:
On Linux, directories are files.
Try to edit one.
That is a permissions based limit toay, and I have done that thousands
of times on os9.
On System III the same system calls oper
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 08:38:51PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 11:32:21AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > gene@coyote:~$ locate *.scad
> > /home/gene/vac_ctrl_box.scad
> > /home/gene/xhome_cable.scad
>
> Markus and The Wanderer were spot on.
>
> As a reminder to all: t
On 11/7/23 11:52, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
Am 07.11.23 um 17:32 schrieb gene heskett:
Greetings all;
I dunno if I've forgot how to use it, or it broken by the same bug that
killing me with the lagging access to my home raid10.
Fact: there are probably over 100 files in my /home/gene directory
On 11/7/23 14:24, mick.crane wrote:
On 2023-11-07 16:32, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
I dunno if I've forgot how to use it, or it broken by the same bug
that killing me with the lagging access to my home raid10.
Fact: there are probably over 100 files in my /home/gene directory and
all it
Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while
> physically capable of using Linux, might not be age appropriate, I am
> wondering if the focus is on the business definition of the term?
No, we're just riffing about the lack of a fantastical magical
wor
On 11/7/23 14:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 11:32:21AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
[...]
gene@coyote:~$ locate *.scad
/home/gene/vac_ctrl_box.scad
/home/gene/xhome_cable.scad
Markus and The Wanderer were spot on.
As a reminder to all: this "naked" *.sca
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Dan Ritter wrote:
Karen Lewellen wrote:
Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while
physically capable of using Linux, might not be age appropriate, I am
wondering if the focus is on the business definition of the term?
No, we're just riffing about t
Dan Ritter wrote:
> No, we're just riffing about the lack of a fantastical magical
> world in which everything works consistently.
Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Ah.. that world is called DOS.
Well, a resident monitor is a lot easier to make consistent than an
operating system.
--
John Hasler
j...@sug
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 20:42:42 +0100
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
Nonsense. They certainly can exist. (I am not aware of any extant as
I write this.) And Otter Zell has the patent on the process for creating
them.
--
Does anybody read signatures any more?
h
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 4:23 PM Charles Curley
wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 20:42:42 +0100
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
>
> Nonsense. They certainly can exist. (I am not aware of any extant as
> I write this.) And Otter Zell has the patent on the proce
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-11-07):
> (note how that one stops short of saying "character special file"?
$ file prog/ffmpeg/libavfilter/buffersrc.h
prog/ffmpeg/libavfilter/buffersrc.h: C source, ASCII text
Do you think this is not a file?
Regards,
--
Nicolas George
signature.asc
Description: P
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
Of course they are real. It's virgins (the only people who can see
them) that don't exist.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 4:23 PM Charles Curley
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 20:42:42 +0100
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
IT'S A CONSPIRACY! UNICORNS AREN'T REAL!!!
Nonsense. They certainly can exist. (I am not aware of any extant as
I write this.) And Otter
William Torrez Corea wrote:
> I have WiFi b/g/n (email, browser, streaming, social network) apparently
> but the device acts like WiFi 1 (email).
802.11b is a maximum of 12Mb/s.
802.11g is a maximum of 54Mb/s.
It is clear from this:
> *Interface*: 802.11 WiFi
> *Driver*: ath9k
> *Speed*: 60 Mb
On 11/6/23 08:47, Franco Martelli wrote:
On 03/11/23 at 17:27, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE syndrome,
meaning No D-d Examples.
I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both, allocated as sdc1
and sdk1,
On 11/7/23 15:54, Karen Lewellen wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2023, Dan Ritter wrote:
Karen Lewellen wrote:
Rather than get banned by supplying some of the options that while
physically capable of using Linux, might not be age appropriate, I am
wondering if the focus is on the business definition of
On 11/7/23 18:42, Tom Dial wrote:
On 11/6/23 08:47, Franco Martelli wrote:
On 03/11/23 at 17:27, gene heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
As usual, the man page may as well be written in swahili. The NDE
syndrome, meaning No D-d Examples.
I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on
Dear Debian Community,
I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to propose the establishment
of a Debian mirror server in Bangladesh
I am confident that a Debian mirror server in Bangladesh would be a
valuable resource for the local tech community
I would like to request your support for th
On 8/11/23 17:10, Md Shehab wrote:
Dear Debian Community,
I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to propose the
establishment of a Debian mirror server in Bangladesh
I am confident that a Debian mirror server in Bangladesh would be a
valuable resource for the local tech community
I
On 11/7/23 16:19, gene heskett wrote:
On 11/7/23 18:42, Tom Dial wrote:
On 03/11/23 at 17:27, gene heskett wrote:
I have those 2 2T SSD's with a gpt partition table on both,
allocated as sdc1 and sdk1, formatted to ext4, named and labeled as
lvm1 and lvm2.
Temp mounted as sdc1 and sdk1 to /mn
On 04/11/2023 15:59, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2023-11-03 09:48:16 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
From the "See ... for details" page
Note
This warning is ratelimited and will stop appearing after a few times, even if
the touchpad jumps continue.
[...]
https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/
On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 07:19:40PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> What do I do if a gpt partition table has already been made and an ext4
> system is already installed? IOW just how "bare" a disk is needed? Is
> writing a null gpt sufficient?
Hm. I may have missed something, but I've got the
Am 07.11.2023 um 17:15:12 Uhr schrieb William Torrez Corea:
> I am using 2.4Ghz, but I can't use 5Ghz. My laptop is outdated
> (Inspiron 14R 5437).
Rund lspci and show the model name of the wireless NIC.
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 10:16 PM William Torrez Corea
wrote:
>
> I have WiFi b/g/n (email, browser, streaming, social network) apparently but
> the device acts like WiFi 1 (email).
>
> Interface: 802.11 WiFi
> Driver: ath9k
> Speed: 60 Mb/s
> Security: WPA/WPA2
> RSSI(dBm): -70
>
> Linux 5.10.0-26
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