Hello, everybody out there!
Thank you for your answers. I realize I have not made myself clear, my
bad.
Indeed, I do not want to change the Python version of the whole
distribution: I do not want to mess up the system. My need is to follow
the up-to-date Python stable version for m
Hello,
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 04:24:47PM -0700, Manphiz wrote:
> Personally I don't have a strong preference either way, but would like
> to hear more opinions on this.
The complaint about a top-posted forwarded message just because it
had a contextual hint at the top, seemed excessive to me. I
Hello,
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:06:04AM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> I though it would have been easier to read if I had forwarded it.
> In hindsight, I could have just copied it over.
It seemed fine the way it was. The only reason why I didn't answer
is that I don't know anything about remov
Andy Smith (12023-06-23):
> It seemed fine the way it was. The only reason why I didn't answer
> is that I don't know anything about removing systemd!
Me I know just a little about it, enough to know that discussion with
people who want to remove it but are not already capable of doing it by
thems
On Fri, 2023-06-23 at 10:51 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote:
> 2023-06-23 4:44 GMT+05:00, Default User :
>
> > Other than that, is there any good reason not to do sudo apt clean?
>
> Only if you have many machines which share /var/cache/apt (via nfs
> for example)
>
> You may use `apt-get autoclea
On 2023-06-23 11:58, Nicolas George wrote:
Andy Smith (12023-06-23):
It seemed fine the way it was. The only reason why I didn't answer
is that I don't know anything about removing systemd!
Me I know just a little about it, enough to know that discussion with
people who want to remove it but a
On 23 Jun 2023 16:41, mick.crane wrote:
On 2023-06-23 11:58, Nicolas George wrote:
Andy Smith (12023-06-23):
It seemed fine the way it was. The only reason why I didn't answer
is that I don't know anything about removing systemd!
Me I know just a little about it, enough to know that discussio
On 6/23/23 08:12, zithro wrote:
On 23 Jun 2023 16:41, mick.crane wrote:
On 2023-06-23 11:58, Nicolas George wrote:
Andy Smith (12023-06-23):
It seemed fine the way it was. The only reason why I didn't answer
is that I don't know anything about removing systemd!
Me I know just a little about
On 23 Jun 2023 17:56, Fred wrote:
Or you could try Devuan which is Debian without systemd.
I did, when I didn't know Debian still had sysv.
But since you can do it on Debian directly, I don't see the point now.
Maybe more polished packages, ie. no surprises like "if you install this
package, I
Is there a CLI and FOSS tool that creates stats from text
indata - e.g.,
$ txt2stats path/to/indata/*.txt
I mean a general tool, but with options to tweak the report
included, of course.
To produce neat stats, maybe even figures, and generate fun
facts of the kind
The longest word that occ
Default User wrote:
> I am considering just running sudo apt clean (or sudo
> apt-get clean) [...]
This is what I eventually landed at and it has worked ever
since - a1 is to maintain, a2 to upgrade as well.
#! /bin/zsh
a1 () {
sudo apt-get -qq update
sudo aptautoremove >
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 22:20:50 +0200
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Is there a CLI and FOSS tool that creates stats from text
> indata - e.g.,
>
> $ txt2stats path/to/indata/*.txt
>
> I mean a general tool, but with options to tweak the report
> included, of course.
>
> To produce neat stats, maybe eve
paulf wrote:
> I don't know about all of your wishlist, but gnuplot is the
> proper tool for taking data from, say, a CSV file, and
> putting it into graphs of various types.
Well, gnuplot is great obviously but is more a tool to
visualize data, organized data, here we need a tool to analyze
and
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Default User wrote:
>
> > I am considering just running sudo apt clean (or sudo
> > apt-get clean) [...]
>
> This is what I eventually landed at and it has worked ever
> since - a1 is to maintain, a2 to upgrade as well.
>
> #! /bin/zsh
>
> a1 () {
> sudo apt-get -qq
On 2023-06-23 14:14, Dan Ritter wrote:
It seems unlikely to me that you want to do an autoremove before
you have done an upgrade.
I'd not say unwise. Useless, pointless, perhaps; but it doesn't hurt
anything.
autoremove removes packages that were installed as dependencies of other
packages
I thought I had posted this to the debianlist but somehow it seems to
have been posted to myself
Weeks went by with no response from the list so I gave up, burnt the iso
to dvd and used it install bookworm on a new pc. The installation went
smoothly and I am using the new pc.
Should I be con
Dan Ritter wrote:
> It seems unlikely to me that you want to do an autoremove
> before you have done an upgrade.
a1 is to maintain and a2 is to upgrade, so the idea is to
always upgrade from a maintained state, that's why a2 first
calls a1. One could do a1 after a2 as well as
before, actually.
>
Steve Sobol wrote:
>> In general people don't want to dist-upgrade automatically.
>
> Seconded.
I'm not following, when these functions are invoked, be it
scheduled by some other software or by the user from the shell,
they are intended to do their work automatically
(non-interactively) if that i
On 2023-06-23 15:26, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Steve Sobol wrote:
In general people don't want to dist-upgrade automatically.
Seconded.
I'm not following, when these functions are invoked, be it
scheduled by some other software or by the user from the shell,
they are intended to do their work aut
Am 24.06.2023 um 00:09 schrieb Thomas George:
> I tried md5sum SHA512SUMS.txt debian-12.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
>
> The outputs do not match
Seriously?
i would have tried
sha512sum -c ShA512SUMS.txt
in the folder, where the iso can be found.
gl next time
DdB
On Jun 23, 2023, Thomas George wrote:
> I thought I had posted this to the debianlist but somehow it seems to have
> been posted to myself [...]
>
> What am i doing wrong?
> [...]
> I tried md5sum SHA512SUMS.txt SHA512SUMS.sign.txt
If you're trying to verify the signature on the checksum file, yo
Steve Sobol wrote:
In general people don't want to dist-upgrade automatically.
>>>
>>> Seconded.
>>
>> I'm not following, when these functions are invoked, be it
>> scheduled by some other software or by the user from the
>> shell, they are intended to do their work automatically
>> (non-inte
Emanuel Berg writes:
> But if I have to do an in-place upgrade, I'm going to sit and watch it
> happen... just in case something goes wrong.
I think has been about twenty years since I've had an in-place upgrade
from oldstable to stable go wrong.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On 2023-06-23 16:54, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Ah, don't worry, it is safe, I've done it a lot.
I don't doubt that it is quite safe, most of the time.
But I run my servers on Ubuntu and Debian. (Mostly Ubuntu right now;
slowly migrating to Debian.)
I get paid for hosting, as well as work I do th
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 23:05:10 +0200
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> paulf wrote:
>
> > I don't know about all of your wishlist, but gnuplot is the
> > proper tool for taking data from, say, a CSV file, and
> > putting it into graphs of various types.
>
> Well, gnuplot is great obviously but is more a tool
Interesting. Your suggested command reports
Debian-12.0.0-and64-DVD-1.iso OK
Followed by 20 lines of failed to read
Debian-12.0.0-amd64-DVD-x.iso where x is in 2-20
These are I suppose lines from the full set of Debian DVD's
So the DVDÂ iso I burned and used to install Debian is OK
Thank you
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:20:50PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Is there a CLI and FOSS tool that creates stats from text
> indata - e.g.,
>
> $ txt2stats path/to/indata/*.txt
>
> I mean a general tool, but with options to tweak the report
> included, of course.
>
> To produce neat stats, mayb
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:20:50PM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Is there a CLI and FOSS tool that creates stats from text
> indata - e.g.,
>
> $ txt2stats path/to/indata/*.txt
>
> I mean a general tool, but with options to tweak the report
> included, of course.
If you can bear some tweaking,
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 05:29:22PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
[...]
> I'd much rather err on the side of extreme caution. If something goes bump,
> I'm screwed.
To be fair, autoremove can improve safety: when it removes old kernel versions
filling up your boot partition.
Having a new kernel inst
On 2023-06-23 21:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 05:29:22PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
[...]
I'd much rather err on the side of extreme caution. If something goes
bump,
I'm screwed.
To be fair, autoremove can improve safety: when it removes old kernel
versions
filling u
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:57:55PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2023-06-23 21:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 05:29:22PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > I'd much rather err on the side of extreme caution. If something
> > > goes bump,
> > > I'm screwed.
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