On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 15:32:47 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> wooledg:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
> 11.6
> wooledg:~$ lpstat -l -e
> Canon_LBP712C_UFR_II_ permanent
> ipp://localhost/printers/Canon_LBP712C_UFR_II_
> ipp://Canon%20LBP712Cdn%20(db%3Ac0%3Ad3)._ipp._tcp.local/
This is a print queue,
On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 05:55:03 +0800, winnie hw wrote:
> Most versions in snapd are newer than apt. such as ruby,
>
> snap install ruby # version 3.2.1, or
> apt install ruby # version 1:3.0~exp1
I cannot better the existing very informative replies.
It comes down to what you want to achieve.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:18:32AM +, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 15:32:47 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > wooledg:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
> > 11.6
> > wooledg:~$ lpstat -l -e
> > Canon_LBP712C_UFR_II_ permanent
> > ipp://localhost/printers/Canon_LBP712C_UFR_II_
> > ipp://Cano
On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 05:13:34 +0800, lsg wrote:
> this is quite unbelievable, it's most widely-used platform: amd64
>
> installer says "No kernel modules found", probably due to kernel mismatch
>
> debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso is at sdb1, vfat partition, i've checked it
> with sha256sum
>
>
Hi.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 10:41:33AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> So the printer WORKS. It is ON THE NETWORK. I can print TEXT to it
> using port 9100.
>
> What I CANNOT do is find it in CUPS. Or avahi-browse, or driverless, or
> any of these other commands that are so allegedly won
On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 09:05:39 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:18:32AM +, Brian wrote:
[...]
> > avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
> > avahi-browse -rt _uscan._tcp
> >
> > (I would find that data useful for my records).
>
> wooledg:~$ avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp 2>&1 |
On 2/16/23 22:46, Greg Marks wrote:
When trying to print a file that contains emojis with the lpr
command, not only do the emojis not print, nothing following the first
non-printing emoji prints. (This makes it a hassle to print certain
e-mails piped to lpr using mutt.) As a small example, afte
On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 10:05:20 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 07:46:23AM +0100, Andreas Leha wrote:
> > Now my question: How can I restore the previous behaviour that allowed
> > other than whitespace separators between fields?
>
> diff -purw procps-3.3.17/ps/sortformat.c procps-4.
On 17/02/2023 00:46, Greg Marks wrote:
When trying to print a file that contains emojis with the lpr
command, not only do the emojis not print, nothing following the first
non-printing emoji prints. (This makes it a hassle to print certain
e-mails piped to lpr using mutt.) As a small example, a
Brian writes:
> On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 05:55:03 +0800, winnie hw wrote:
>
>> Most versions in snapd are newer than apt. such as ruby,
>>
>> snap install ruby # version 3.2.1, or
>> apt install ruby # version 1:3.0~exp1
>
> I cannot better the existing very informative replies.
> It comes down
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 09:20:34AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 10:05:20 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > So, to answer your question - currently the only way to restore the
> > behaviour you want is to patch procps and rebuild it.
Fabulous analysis.
> Or, depending on the context,
Anssi Saari (12023-02-17):
> Seconded. Specifically in the case of programming languages it may make
> sense to install a current version
Hard disagree on that. You will be tempted to use the latest shiny
features that will be dropped in a few versions because the design was
flawed at its core.
I
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> This sounds like a bug in procps that should be reported, if it
> hasn't already.
It might be a bug if it disagreed with its documentation. But do the
docs say anything about this feature? What they do say is that you
should be able to use comma-separated field decriptions
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 06:55:52PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> Anssi Saari (12023-02-17):
> > Seconded. Specifically in the case of programming languages it may make
> > sense to install a current version
>
> Hard disagree on that. You will be tempted to use the latest shiny
> features that wil
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:28:23 -0800
Mike Kupfer wrote:
> Celejar wrote:
>
> > I'm running Debian Sid with XFCE. Xscreensaver used to work, but a
> > number of months ago, it broke badly: it now fails to fails to activate
> > via the "Preview" button or (more importantly) via the "Blank after"
> >
On 2023-02-17 at 13:21, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
>> This sounds like a bug in procps that should be reported, if it
>> hasn't already.
>
> It might be a bug if it disagreed with its documentation. But do the
> docs say anything about this feature? What they do
On 2/16/23, Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 08:59:58 +0100
> Nicolas George wrote:
>
>> pa...@quillandmouse.com (12023-02-15):
>> > Here's why you would partition a drive. Reinstalling (which I end up
>> > having to do every time Debian comes out with a new version
>>
>> Debian is not Ubuntu, ma
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 02:11:02PM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> > Upgrades are definitely a lot more trouble now, and yes, I do realise
> > that each release is bigger and more complicated than the last.
>
>
> Ditto. I can still remember saying (on Debian-User) that if someone
> wanted to des
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 01:49:59PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> I can't speak to the new version, as I'm still running 3.3.17-7.1 on my
> machine - but I can at least note that the man page from that older
> version also explicitly says "a blank-separated or comma-separated list"
> in the descripti
On 2023-02-17 at 15:21, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 01:49:59PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> I can't speak to the new version, as I'm still running 3.3.17-7.1 on my
>> machine - but I can at least note that the man page from that older
>> version also explicitly says "a blank-
On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 19:33:32 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote:
> It's likely that LILO will go with Bookworm - I think it's more or
> less unmaintained if I recall correctly, so someone needs to help you
> getting this one to work. Is this your only machine?
It doesn't seem to be in Bookworm now.
Hello,
sorry this is maybe not related to debian directly.
but how can I compare two versions of a package by programming?
for instance, v1.24.0.1 should be later than v1.23.99.999.
Thank you.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 08:38:22AM +0800, winnie hw wrote:
> sorry this is maybe not related to debian directly.
> but how can I compare two versions of a package by programming?
> for instance, v1.24.0.1 should be later than v1.23.99.999.
Debian's dpkg(1) command has a --compare-versions option.
Celejar wrote:
> The logs show regular deactivate events like the following every 20
> seconds:
>
> ClientMessage DEACTIVATE: already inactive, resetting activity time
>
> I saw this:
>
> https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#no-blank
>
> I guess I have to figure out what application is se
On 2/17/23 22:29, Brian wrote:
There isn't much you can do about this. It is usually a temporary
issue thats happens after Linux kernel updates. The installer is
now out of step. It gets automatically fixed after some time.
Thanks! i've thought updating iso image and hard disk installer are
aut
Also, while Debian uses a sane, consistent version numbering system it
is not safe to make assumptions about what non-Debian developers do.
There have been some very original systems used, and developers have
been known to change systems in midstream.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 07:42:24PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Also, while Debian uses a sane, consistent version numbering system it
> is not safe to make assumptions about what non-Debian developers do.
The best thing I can say about Debian's version strings is that they
are documented.
unicorn
I want to compile a statically linked version of gedit using the
upstream meson based package.
I've got the sources matching my current Debian 11 system and can do a
build no problem.
What I want to do is statically link the gedit executable. I see the
non-static executable is very small and
Running “xrandr --size 800x600” on a virtual machine affected both
monitors on my workstation. That was completely unexpected and I am
wondering how to explain that.
Below you will find the detailed description.
I run KVM on a Debian 11 server, which has no monitor or keyboard
attached to it.
re: the epoch.
That's a number which appears at the start of the version, is delimited
from the rest of the version by a colon, and when omitted is
automatically treated as being 0. It's used to allow for the case of a
version-numbering scheme changing, where the new version would not
other
Thanks Greg. Good to know that.
regards.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 9:08 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 08:38:22AM +0800, winnie hw wrote:
> > sorry this is maybe not related to debian directly.
> > but how can I compare two versions of a package by programming?
> > for instance
Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
...
have you tried refind?
i've been using it for several years now and while i do still
have grub installed and it gets updated i primarily use refind
instead.
songbird
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 09:17:43 +0800
lsg wrote:
> it will be easier if i can determine if they match by matching file
> name of iso file with that of vmlinuz and initrd pair (their file
> names shall all include same version number)
That wouldn't help. My method pulls the kernel and initrd from th
On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 20:57:38 (-0500), Albert S. wrote:
> Running “xrandr --size 800x600” on a virtual machine affected both
> monitors on my workstation. That was completely unexpected and I am
> wondering how to explain that.
>
> Below you will find the detailed description.
[ … ]
> But my re
On 2/18/23 11:12, Charles Curley wrote:
That wouldn't help. My method pulls the kernel and initrd from the iso
itself. I got the same error you did.
I used the weekly build, so I shall wait until the next build and see
if that works.
Really? i am afraid vmlinuz and initrd pair in iso file do
On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 11:30:43 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 09:20:34AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 10:05:20 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > So, to answer your question - currently the only way to restore the
> > > behaviour you want is to patch procps
On Sat 18 Feb 2023 at 09:17:43 (+0800), lsg wrote:
> On 2/17/23 22:29, Brian wrote:
> > There isn't much you can do about this. It is usually a temporary
> > issue thats happens after Linux kernel updates. The installer is
> > now out of step. It gets automatically fixed after some time.
> >
> Tha
On Thu 16 Feb 2023 at 08:59:58 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote:
> pa...@quillandmouse.com (12023-02-15):
> > Here's why you would partition a drive. Reinstalling (which I end up
> > having to do every time Debian comes out with a new version
>
> Debian is not Ubuntu, major upgrade do not break the s
On 18/02/2023 08:57, Albert S. wrote:
If you think I issued the xrandr command on the wrong machine, that was
not the case: history makes it clear.
Behavior depends on the DISPLAY environment value at the moment when
xrandr was executed. Likely it was pointed not to vnc Xserver, but to
the
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 12:05:11 +0800
lsg wrote:
> Really? i am afraid vmlinuz and initrd pair in iso file don't include
> program that search disk for iso file, as pair in hd-media directory
> does
>
> Debian11.6/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media
>
> though it's possible to boot iso f
On 16/02/2023 22:25, Joe wrote:
Stretch installed perfectly dual-boot with Win 10 on an EFI Acer
netbook, but upgrading to Buster broke booting to grub. It actually
broke EFI booting completely, but I've been able to restore booting at
least to Windows. And yes, I've tried everything the Net can
On 17/02/2023 00:48, winnie hw wrote:
When both snapd and apt sources are available, which one should I choose
for package installation? Though I found the package versions in snapd
are a bit newer than apt.
With snapd you do not have full control when an application is updated.
The daemon
On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 22:26:56 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 12:05:11 +0800
> lsg wrote:
>
> > Really? i am afraid vmlinuz and initrd pair in iso file don't include
> > program that search disk for iso file, as pair in hd-media directory
> > does
> >
> > Debian11.6/main/i
On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 12:50:12PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
[...]
> When some application is packaged for Linux distributions it is easier to
> rebuild it with a custom patch. I suspect that a developer distributing a
> snap package may use specific and not well documented build environment.
I
IsIntel® Core™ i5-10600K Processor
Is this processor supported? Which release be best.
It also has 2 drives one is chip and the other spins.
Tom Clark
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Tom composed on 2023-02-18 01:17 (UTC-0500):
> IsIntel® Core™ i5-10600K Processor
> Is this processor supported? Which release be best.
> It also has 2 drives one is chip and the other spins.
Your CPU was introduced a bit over a year before Debian 11/Bullseye, so Bullseye
as the current stable D
On 18/02/2023 06:17, Tom wrote:
Is*Intel® Core™ i5-10600K Processor*
Is this processor supported? Which release be best.
Hi Tom,
This processor from 2020 is very well supported by recent Linux kernels.
You can use Debian Stable as Felix suggested.
It also has 2 drives one is chip and t
On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 1:57 AM Tom wrote:
>
> IsIntel® Core™ i5-10600K Processor
>
> Is this processor supported? Which release be best.
The Core i5-10600K is a 10th gen/IceLake processor. It is supported by
the linux kernel.
There are no microcode updates (yet?) on my Core i5-1035G1 10th gen:
Thank David Wright very much!
i think error msg i report is precise, i use cell phone to record screen,
https://pan.baidu.com/s/1a5ADqn1aXo5XmwcDSjVezQ?pwd=1234
this url is valid for 7 days, i am sorry picture isn't very clear.
installer search disk for iso file, can't find suitable one, and d
i am sorry link in my last mail may not work outside china
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