Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Loïc Grenié
Thanks Tomas, and thanks to all those responded, On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 06:16, Tomas wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:44:49AM +0100, DdB wrote: > > Am 29.11.2022 um 23:35 schrieb Loïc Grenié: > > > when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more > > > or less) find mys

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Anssi Saari
Jeffrey Walton writes: > KDE works as expected. Yep. > God bless those who have stuck with GNOME after the change to GNOME3. > They have the tolerance of saints. I have to agree. I did get Gnome 3 to somewhere I kinda liked but when an updated wiped my customizations, it was time to say good b

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Lee
On 11/30/22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:44:49AM +0100, DdB wrote: >> Am 29.11.2022 um 23:35 schrieb Loïc Grenié: >> > when I apt upgrade my system, I often (one every three, more >> > or less) find myself brutally logged out of the window system, >> > with systemd

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 06:16:04AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > FWIW it never happened to me. But: I'm on a pretty minimal system by > today's standards (X, Fvwm). The only application behaving strangely > after a dist-upgrade is... the browser, Firefix: "Ohmigod, something > funny happened, I'

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Loïc Grenié
Happened once again. This time I think the culprit was udev (but I cannot be too sure). Among the updated package nothing should have killed X: beyond udev there was a bunch of libreoffice and related (not using right now), zathura (not using), not much more, at the very least, nothing t

Re: Exploring grep-dctrl

2022-11-30 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 11/29/22 à 5:48 PM, David Wright a écrit : Please don't post HTML, but text. Sorry, I thought my messages were multipart. I just realized they were not after your message. I'll have to fine-tune my MUA (thunderbird). For the moment, I changed it to text only. On Sun 27 Nov 2022 at 17:25:45

Re: Exploring grep-dctrl

2022-11-30 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 11/30/22 à 4:02 PM, Yassine Chaouche a écrit : But even then, translation files might contain more than one entry for same package, maybe one for each (version x architecture) product. For eg.: $ grep-dctrl winbind -s Description-en /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trus

hangs at boot

2022-11-30 Thread jd
Hi! I just installed debian 11, it keeps hanging at boot at the same place. It gets to [ OK ] Started Make remote CUPS printers available locally and then it hangs. I don't know where I should even begin to look in order to diagnose this, anyone got any ideas? cheers jd

Re: hangs at boot

2022-11-30 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 30. November 2022, 18:33:49 CET schrieb jd: Try to deinstall cups and remove any usb cameras. I had had the problem, that cups detected an usb camera as a printer and then stopped booting. The camera was a noname one, and I do not own it any more. Just an idea Good luck! Ha

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Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 11/30/22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:36:43AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > [...] > >> What I have noticed in Debian that I do not at all like, is when I boot >> to >> multi-user.target for the specific purpose of apt or apt-get upgrading, >> even when >> systemctl get-

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Nov 2022 at 08:42:41 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:36:43AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > I learned many many moons ago to not trust any update/upgrade process to not > > interfere with a running X session. I usually close apps I don't want data > > lost

Re: tbird AND javamail both broken

2022-11-30 Thread Gareth Evans
On Tue 29 Nov 2022, at 16:52, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 26 Nov 2022 at 19:45:37 (+), Gareth Evans wrote: >> On Sat 26 Nov 2022, at 16:01, David Wright wrote: >>> On Sat 19 Nov 2022 at 20:38:46 (+), Gareth Evans wrote: On Sat 19 Nov 2022, at 20:15, Gareth Evans wrote: [...]

Re: hangs at boot

2022-11-30 Thread jd
On 2022-11-30 18:52, Hans wrote: Am Mittwoch, 30. November 2022, 18:33:49 CET schrieb jd: Try to deinstall cups and remove any usb cameras. I had had the problem, that cups detected an usb camera as a printer and then stopped booting. I tried removing all cups packages, then it just stalled

Re: hangs at boot

2022-11-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 01:36:05AM +0100, jd wrote: > > On 2022-11-30 18:52, Hans wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 30. November 2022, 18:33:49 CET schrieb jd: > > > > Try to deinstall cups and remove any usb cameras. I had had the problem, > > that > > cups detected an usb camera as a printer and then st

Re: hangs at boot

2022-11-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Nov 2022 at 18:33:49 (+0100), jd wrote: > > I just installed debian 11, it keeps hanging at boot at the same place. > > It gets to > > [ OK ] Started Make remote CUPS printers available locally > > and then it hangs. I don't know where I should even begin to look in > order to diagnos

Re: hangs at boot

2022-11-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Nov 2022 at 19:38:05 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 01:36:05AM +0100, jd wrote: > > On 2022-11-30 18:52, Hans wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 30. November 2022, 18:33:49 CET schrieb jd: > > > > > > Try to deinstall cups and remove any usb cameras. I had had the problem

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 02:36:57PM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > The only reasons I'd close down X are (a) a dist-upgrade from > oldstable to stable (and the like), That I do, too. > and (b) dpkg-reconfigure > console-setup and keyboard-configuration after I've been > t

Re: Logout at apt upgrade

2022-11-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> The one application I do avoid upgrading while it's running is >> Firefox, but that's mainly because it occasionally gives a new >> startup screen after an upgrade, and I want to read what it says. > > I take the risk and watch the thing going down in flames. I > admit that it gives me a strange

Re: hangs at boot

2022-11-30 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2022-12-01 at 01:36 +0100, jd wrote: > On 2022-11-30 18:52, Hans wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 30. November 2022, 18:33:49 CET schrieb jd: > > > > Try to deinstall cups and remove any usb cameras. I had had the problem, > > that > > cups detected an usb camera as a printer and then stopped boot