Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread DdB
Am 08.11.2022 um 05:31 schrieb hw: >> That's only one point. > What are the others? > >> And it's not really some valid one, I think, as >> you do typically not run into space problems with one single action >> (YMMV). Running multiple sessions and out-of-band deduplication between >> them wor

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-08 Thread didier gaumet
Le 08/11/2022 à 05:13, hw a écrit : On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 13:57 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't (and don't) know much about deduplication (beyond what you might deduce from the name), so I google and found this article which was helpful to me:    * [[https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread didier gaumet
Le 08/11/2022 à 04:49, hw a écrit : [...] When I want to have 2 (or more) generations of backups, do I actually want deduplication? It leaves me with only one actual copy of the data which seems to defeat the idea of having multiple generations of backups at least to some extent. [...] I would

Increased read IO wait times after Bullseye upgrade

2022-11-08 Thread Vukovics Mihály
Hello Community, since I have upgraded my debian 10 to 11, the read IO wait time of all disks have been increased dramatically. The hw and sw setup has not changed and there no extra IO related activity on the server. The scheduler is the same: mq-deadline. I have tried to set it to noop but t

Re: definiing deduplication (was: Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?)

2022-11-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, hw wrote: > I still wonder how VDO actually works. There is a comparer/decider named UDS which holds an index of the valid storage blocks, and a device driver named VDO which performes the deduplication and hides its internals from the user by providing a block device on top of the real stora

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread Dan Ritter
hw wrote: > > As you say, deduplication in backup systems is quite common, and works > > pretty well. There's also an on-disk non-filesystem utility, rdfind, > > which is packaged in Debian. It can discover identical files and make > > them hardlinks. > > Well, if I had all the disk space to hold

Re: support for ancient peripherals

2022-11-08 Thread Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)
On Saturday, November 5, 2022 7:21 PM, I wrote: >> My concern is about support for three ancient peripherals that I like better >> than the modern equivalents: >> ... >> 2. A Logitech M-MD15L three-button roller-ball serial mouse (from 2006); and >> 3. An HP LaserJet 5MP printer from 1995 with a pa

Re: support for ancient peripherals

2022-11-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Nov 06, 2022 at 06:31:04AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: 3. An HP LaserJet 5MP printer from 1995 with a parallel-port connector. StarTech sells a $42 PCIe card with a parallel port and two serial ports. If you're getting a desktop, this might be your preferred path. Two other options: The

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread hede
On 08.11.2022 05:31, hw wrote: That still requires you to have enough disk space for at least two full backups. Correct, if you do always full backups then the second run will consume full backup space in the first place. (not fully correct with bees running -> *) That would be the first th

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread Curt
On 2022-11-08, DdB wrote: >> > Your wording likely confuses 2 different concepts: > > Deduplication avoids storing identical data more than once. > whereas > Redundancy stores information on more than one place on purpose to avoid > loos of data in case of havoc. So they're antithetical concepts

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread Nicolas George
Curt (12022-11-08): > Redundancy sounds a lot like a back up. RAID also sounds a lot like a backup, and the R means redundant. Yet raid is not a backup. -- Nicolas George

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-11-08 at 09:36, Nicolas George wrote: > Curt (12022-11-08): > >> Redundancy sounds a lot like a back up. > > RAID also sounds a lot like a backup, and the R means redundant. > > Yet raid is not a backup. That depends on which sense of the word "backup" you are using. No, it's not a "b

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Curt wrote: > On 2022-11-08, DdB wrote: > >> > > Your wording likely confuses 2 different concepts: > > > > Deduplication avoids storing identical data more than once. > > whereas > > Redundancy stores information on more than one place on purpose to avoid > > loos of data in case of havoc. > >

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I had to look up the word deduplicate (I was going to say, "That isn't even a > word!"), which reveals my extensive knowledge of the matter. It was originally called to "duplicate duplicate", but then self-application came in and the rest is history. Stefan

Just a test

2022-11-08 Thread Amn
Please disregard this email.

Re: Just a test

2022-11-08 Thread Jeremy Hendricks
I’m Jeremy, how are you? On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:27 PM Amn wrote: > Please disregard this email. > >

firmware-atheros - slow internet

2022-11-08 Thread Amn
I have found impossible to use Bluetooth with my Debian 11 on my : System Manufacturer    Acer System Model    Aspire E5-771G System Type    x64-based PC System SKU    Aspire E5-771G_0880_1_09 Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz, 2401 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s) BIOS

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread David Christensen
On 11/7/22 23:13, hw wrote: On Mon, 2022-11-07 at 21:46 -0800, David Christensen wrote: Are you deduplicating? Yes. Apparently some people say bad things happen when ZFS runs out of memory from deduplication. Okay. 16 GiB seems to be enough for my SOHO server. I put rsync based

Re: Increased read IO wait times after Bullseye upgrade

2022-11-08 Thread Gareth Evans
On Tue 8 Nov 2022, at 09:48, Vukovics Mihály wrote: > Hello Community, > > since I have upgraded my debian 10 to 11, the read IO wait time of all > disks have been increased dramatically. [...] > Chart attached, you can clearly see the date of the upgrade. > > Any ideas? Hello, I'm not an expe

Re: deduplicating file systems: VDO with Debian?

2022-11-08 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 05:44:00PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I had to look up the word deduplicate (I was going to say, "That isn't even > > a > > word!"), which reveals my extensive knowledge of the matter. > > It was originally called to "duplicate duplicate", but then > self-application