On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 01:59:25 +0200
Kevin Price wrote:
> Do you happen to be in a country whose government restricts Internet access?
Probably not a government restriction. Debian.org is pretty fast to reach even
in Chinese mainland here.
On Sun, 11 Sep 2022 19:09:22 -0400
Tom Zarcone wrote:
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. September 2022 um 08:17 Uhr
> Von: "john doe"
>
> I would say the Systemd mailing list but this list is awsome and I'm
> also guilty of being OT from time to time!
>
I already asked at systemd-devel, but got no answer. Is there another
systemd mailing list?
Jürgen
> Gesendet: Montag, 12. September 2022 um 21:06 Uhr
> Von: "Darac Marjal"
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: Re: systemd automount unit: run only when server is reachable
>
> systemd has a number of Condition* rules which can be added to units:
> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/sy
On Mon, 12 Sep 2022, jindam, vani wrote:
i installed debian sid on userland app.
i have 2 terminals. xterm & uxterm. i have
installed openbox, jre, mc & palemoon.
i have 2 issues & both of are interrelated:
(1) when i start my vnc session, it
starts xterm terminal automatically.
which file sho
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 12:42:00PM -0400, Dave Parker wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:37 AM Henning Follmann
> wrote:
>
> >
> > First, please do not top post.
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 09:00:00AM -0400, Dave Parker wrote:
> > > Thanks for the advice. Just to clarify, this is an enterpr
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:10:29PM +0200, Jürgen Bausa wrote:
>
>
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. September 2022 um 08:17 Uhr
> > Von: "john doe"
> >
> > I would say the Systemd mailing list but this list is awsome and I'm
> > also guilty of being OT from time to time!
> >
>
> I already asked at
It's been so long since I set up Debian I've forgotten how to set timing
for going into hibernation. It's currently set for a much to large a delay.
Where do I look for instructions and descriptions?
TIA
If my intention is to use Linux as a developing platform why should I
concern myself on what distro to use?
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Richard Owlett wrote:
It's been so long since I set up Debian I've forgotten how to set timing for
going into hibernation. It's currently set for a much to large a delay.
Where do I look for instructions and descriptions?
I use Right Click on screen, and then Application
On Tue 13 Sep 2022 at 09:00:54 (-0400), Amn Ojee Uw wrote:
> If my intention is to use Linux as a developing platform why should I
> concern myself on what distro to use?
https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
Cheers,
David.
On 09/13/2022 08:28 AM, Roger Price wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Richard Owlett wrote:
It's been so long since I set up Debian I've forgotten how to set
timing for going into hibernation. It's currently set for a much to primare panel has
large a delay.
Where do I look for instructions and des
Amn Ojee Uw wrote:
> If my intention is to use Linux as a developing platform why should I
> concern myself on what distro to use?
You should use whatever distro is most convenient for your
needs. Nobody else can tell you what those needs are.
-dsr-
On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
>
> > [...] "I can't get personalized/dedicated support with enforceable
> > SLAs for free"
If the requirement that maintainers and developers of free/oss software must
actually
fix the
On 9/13/22 17:51, Dan Ritter wrote:
Amn Ojee Uw wrote:
If my intention is to use Linux as a developing platform why should I
concern myself on what distro to use?
You should use whatever distro is most convenient for your
needs. Nobody else can tell you what those needs are.
Debian Linux can
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:27:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
> On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> >
> > > [...] "I can't get personalized/dedicated support with enforceable
> > > SLAs for free"
>
> If the require
I see that the transition to merged /usr for all systems is about to
start for sid imminently (unless explicitly disabled) and will then move
to testing.
There's a package usr-is-merged that will stop usrmerge being installed
with init-system-helpers (and so avoids bringing in its dependencies)
b
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:27:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> [...] "I can't get personalized/dedicated support with enforceable
> SLAs for free"
If the requirement that maintai
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:00:54 -0400
Amn Ojee Uw wrote:
> If my intention is to use Linux as a developing platform why should I
> concern myself on what distro to use?
Use one or more of the distro(s) for which you are developing.
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hi,
how can I search an item in the Konqueror window on Debian?
I tried with / and F3, but that didn't work
best regards
On 9/13/2022 11:44 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:27:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
> > On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > >
> > > > [...] "I can't get personalized/dedicated support
On Dienstag, 13. September 2022 12:15:16 -04 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> hi,
>
> how can I search an item in the Konqueror window on Debian?
> I tried with / and F3, but that didn't work
> best regards
Ctrl-F
Greetings
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On 9/13/2022 11:53 AM, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:27:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
> >On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> >>
> >> > [...] "I can't get personalized/dedicated support with en
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:25:40PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
[...]
> I agree with that. But the price-performance ratio could be even better if
> the "volunteers"
> in free/oss software projects were not free to ignore bugs reported to them.
Hm. I doubt that. Perhaps they will do more what
hi,
Forget my previous mail, I found the answer:
in Konqueror, the search is done with F
On 9/13/2022 12:36 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:25:40PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I agree with that. But the price-performance ratio could be even better if
> > the "volunteers"
> > in free/oss software projects were not free to ignore bugs reported
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022 18:15:16 +0200
Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
Hello Pierre,
>how can I search an item in the Konqueror window on Debian?
>I tried with / and F3, but that didn't work
>best regards
F works. You could also, if you wish, re-assign shortcuts.
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 19:50:01 +0200, Gerard ROBIN wrote:
> Le Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 09:06:08AM -, Bert Riding a écrit :
>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 09:06:08 - (UTC)
>> From: Bert Riding
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: fetchmail
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Sep 2022 22:50:01 +0200, Ge
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 04:45:40PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
> There's a package usr-is-merged that will stop usrmerge being installed
> with init-system-helpers (and so avoids bringing in its dependencies)
> but I don't see that available in bullseye.
>
> Most of my systems are already merged /us
Hello,
El mar., 13 sept. 2022 19:10, Greg Wooledge escribió:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 04:45:40PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
> > There's a package usr-is-merged that will stop usrmerge being installed
> > with init-system-helpers (and so avoids bringing in its dependencies)
> > but I don't see th
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
I agree with that. But the price-performance ratio could be even better if the
"volunteers"
in free/oss software projects were not free to ignore bugs reported to them.
Pretty much everything worked for this grub bug other than some
unfortunate se
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 07:40:08PM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
> Did you test aptitude why-not libpng12-0?
>
> I'm not sure If It help in this case
unicorn:~$ aptitude why-not libpng12-0
Automatically installed, current version 1.2.50-2+deb8u3, priority optional
No dependencies require to remove
On Tue 13 Sep 2022 at 13:09:52 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 04:45:40PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
> > There's a package usr-is-merged that will stop usrmerge being installed
> > with init-system-helpers (and so avoids bringing in its dependencies)
> > but I don't see that
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 04:45:40PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
There's a package usr-is-merged that will stop usrmerge being installed
with init-system-helpers (and so avoids bringing in its dependencies)
but I don't see that available in bullseye.
Most
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, David Wright wrote:
I assume I'm merged already:
$ ls -l /bin /lib /sbin
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Apr 16 20:25 /bin -> usr/bin
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Apr 16 20:25 /lib -> usr/lib
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Apr 16 20:25 /sbin -> usr/sbin
$
Yes. usr-is-merged won't install
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:42:12PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
Software projects today, IIUC, are communities. The "volunteers" should do what
the community
wants, not necessarily what you or I want. Do you think the free/oss software
community wants
volunteers who ignore bugs or refuse to f
On 2022-09-13 18:55 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 04:45:40PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote:
>>> There's a package usr-is-merged that will stop usrmerge being installed
>>> with init-system-helpers (and so avoids bringing in its depend
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:50:22PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 13 Sep 2022 at 13:09:52 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Now I'm no longer just curious -- I'm *concerned*. Why does it want to
> > remove my libpng12-0 package? What's the best way to keep/reinstall xv
> > on my system after
On 9/13/2022 2:02 PM, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:42:12PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
> >Software projects today, IIUC, are communities. The "volunteers" should do
> >what the community
> >wants, not necessarily what you or I want. Do you think the free/oss
> >software co
On Tue 13 Sep 2022 at 18:59:42 (+0100), Tim Woodall wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, David Wright wrote:
>
> > I assume I'm merged already:
> >
> > $ ls -l /bin /lib /sbin
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Apr 16 20:25 /bin -> usr/bin
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Apr 16 20:25 /lib -> usr/lib
> > lrwxrwxr
On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Sven Joachim wrote:
I might be misunderstanding but I was expecting bookworm to get the
dependency init-system-helpers -> usrmerge imminently. Sid gets it, I
think, on Thursday.
That is true.
That's why I want usr-is-merged on my bullseye systems. I'll backport
from boo
On Mon 12 Sep 2022 at 09:31:07 (+0200), Jürgen Bausa wrote:
> I am using systemd automount units (see below) to mount network shares on my
> laptop
> (debian bullseye). This works fine in principle but I have one big issue:
>
> At home it is enough to set TimeoutSec to 2 s in the mount unit. Nor
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 02:14:38PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
So do you, obviously. Someone said something that raised that question in my
mind,
but you deleted that part from this message, which proves you are the one who
has
an ax to grind by not answering the question that has been raise
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 6:41 AM Henning Follmann
wrote:
>
> >
> > So I guess my question is, do I need one now on the Bullseye server, if
> > saslauthd always worked for this before?
> >
>
> OK, that's an option too.
>
> Now I would check if sasl works. There is an little helper program; try:
> t
Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
> I edited a file for hours and then mistakenly clicked "Do not save"
> while closing file. Auto save is not enabled. No backup exist in
> LibreOffice Backup folder. The computer is not restarted yet. Temp
> folder have only old version. Any way to recover the lost edited
On 9/13/2022 2:33 PM, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 02:14:38PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
> >So do you, obviously. Someone said something that raised that question in my
> >mind,
> >but you deleted that part from this message, which proves you are the one
> >who has
> >an ax
(short answer) No. Its more like "shit happens!"
It does indeed :-(
Even with best of knowledge and abilities, what once was in memory (RAM)
will be reused pretty quick, and if you chose to not autosave regularly,
there won't be much left, and even if there would be, the work to get it
into pr
Please STOP!
you are annoying, and if you want improve free softwares, is not like this.
you will better contribute with your code or with your translations than by
writing to this mailing-list
I want you kicked from this list.
On 9/13/2022 3:59 PM, err...@free.fr wrote:
> Please STOP!
>
> you are annoying, and if you want improve free softwares, is not like this.
> you will better contribute with your code or with your translations than by
> writing to this mailing-list
The problem is, with all due respect, that I do h
Am 12.09.22 um 19:47 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski:
"Open Source Software is accessible to all means it can be used and
misused.
And, that’s where it turns unconstructive for us. With OSS, we can expect harm,
virus transfer, identity burglary, and many other malicious practices to hurt
the
process
On 9/13/22, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> hi,
>
> how can I search an item in the Konqueror window on Debian?
> I tried with / and F3, but that didn't work
> best regards
Hi, Pierre, also, for more or more detailed info, you can check
Konqueror's official site:
https://apps.kde.org/konqueror/
In whi
On 9/13/2022 4:14 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote:
> Am 12.09.22 um 19:47 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski:
> > "Open Source Software is accessible to all means it can be used and
> > misused.
> > And, that’s where it turns unconstructive for us. With OSS, we can expect
> > harm,
> > virus transfer, identity bu
Am 13.09.2022 um 21:47 schrieb Juan R.D. Silva:
> Oh, I did recreated it. And I even think is very close to original. :-)
This is good news! Thanks for sharing it. :-)
DdB
On 9/13/2022 4:31 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > the interest of the user. These "volunteers" obviously have other,
> > possibly malicious, interests if they prove themselves unwilling to
> > apply fixes to bugs that are reported to them.
>
> I think there's a confusion here: these volunteers will a
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:48 PM Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
> > If free/oss projects like Debian want to provide software with those
> > positive characteristics to their users, those projects must have in
> > place some level of oversight over what the persons who actually write
> > the software actu
Am 13.09.22 um 23:55 schrieb Chuck Zmudzinski:
On 9/13/2022 4:14 PM, Thiemo Kellner wrote:
I think Megha is emphasizing, and possibly over-emphasizing, the fact
that the persons
who actually commit the code in free software projects can operate with little
or
no oversight when they are just vo
> On Aug 30, 2022, at 1:12 PM, Casey Deccio wrote:
>
> I am having trouble tracking down a bug in my monitoring setup. It all
> happened when I upgraded the monitored host (host B in my example below) to
> bullseye. Note that Host A is also running bullseye, but the problem didn't
> show i
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 03:47:34PM -0400, Juan R.D. Silva wrote:
[...]
> Thanks for you time. Oh, I did recreated it. And I even think is very close
> to original. :-)
I'll bet it's better :-)
Cheers
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On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 03:41:11PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
[...]
> Actually, someone already has shown us how to do it better. His name is
> Linus Torvalds [...]
I don't know what your aim is.
I have the impression that it's just arguing for arguing's sake [1].
My time is too short to t
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