Re: Apt pinning.

2021-11-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-11-28 at 00:03, David Wright wrote: > Epochs are unaffected by any such considerations: they override the > whole versioning system. BTW I can't recall seeing an official Debian > epoch as high as 2: though someone will probably correct me. Oh, it certainly happens. Even just on my own sy

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-11-27 at 22:36, Celejar wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:28:05 -0500 > The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2021-11-27 at 21:08, Celejar wrote: >>> I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in >>> question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts >>> instal

strongswan still uses outdated ``ipsec(8)`` command by default

2021-11-28 Thread IL Ka
Hello. Before sending the issue to maintainers I want to ask people who use strongswan. StrongSWAN migrated from ``ipsec(8)`` to ``swanctl(8)`` and from ``strongswan-starter`` (ipsec-based) to ``strongswan`` (special version of charon that could be used with systemd). https://wiki.strongswan.org/

Re: Apt pinning.

2021-11-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, The Wanderer wrote: > an epoch as high as 9: > ii wodim > 9:1.1.11-3.2 Looks like interesting history. https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/c/cdrkit/changelog-91.1.11-3.2 (when read backwards) shows repeated occasions of what https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfiel

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 27 Nov 20:09 -0600, Celejar wrote: > I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in > question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts > installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when > you select the glyphs. What does "fc-li

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-11-28 at 10:45, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2021 27 Nov 20:09 -0600, Celejar wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in >> question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts >> installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure findin

Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Terence
Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. Has anyone else the same problem/

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/11/2021 à 17:22, Terence a écrit : Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. Has anyone else the same problem/ Works for me (but I do not use the firefox package, I use the upstream software)

Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder

2021-11-28 Thread lists . debian
Thansk for the answer. To be honest to you, I already checked all that. Both User1 and User2 folders have have exactly the same permission sets on Windows (they both herit them from the Documents folder). I did also tried to use the usermap file, but I must say that I didn't managed to do it. I

new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Gene Heskett
Plz excuse the foul attitude, one of seagates finest 2T drives ate its own lunch friday and I'm on web mail. Lost everything but I have backups I cannot access. apt/synaptic will not let me install any of Trinity, claims I have held broken packages it refuses to name. and synaptics fix-broke

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:50:22 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? No, I had never heard of it. Do you? No package depends on or even "recommends" that one, so I'm not sure how you would have ended up with it insofar as you "never manually installed an

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 22:58:58 -0600 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 07:22:45 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > > Celejar writes: > > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > > > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > > > installed, or

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Lee
On 11/28/21, Gene Heskett wrote: > Plz excuse the foul attitude, one of seagates finest 2T drives ate its own > lunch friday and I'm on web mail. Lost everything but I have backups I > cannot access. > > apt/synaptic will not let me install any of Trinity, claims I have held > broken packages it

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 09:10:54AM -0800, Gene Heskett wrote: > Plz excuse the foul attitude, one of seagates finest 2T drives ate its > own lunch friday and I'm on web mail. Lost everything but I have backups > I cannot access. > > > > apt/synaptic will not let me install any of Trinity, cla

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? Celejar writes: > No, I had never heard of it. Do you? Yes. > No, I had never heard of it. Do you? No package depends on [it]... True. > ...or even "recommends" that one... How do you know? -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com El

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Lee
On 11/28/21, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Please help everyone else on the list understand how well/badly this goes. > Precise error messages or sequences of commands you've run are really > helpful I've always liked script for capturing what happens on the command line but the captured control c

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 21:50:22 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? Obviously I'm doing something wrong (or not doing it), as I have just installed all the fonts available in buster that match fonts-recommended/bullseye, including fonts-noto-color-em

Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 26 Nov 2021 at 21:12:25 (-0500), lou wrote: > > On 11/26/21 11:08 AM, Christian Britz wrote: > > Christian Britz wrote: > > > This actually works recursively with the zgrep command from the zutils > > > package, thank you! > > And still it doesn't find the file mentioned by deloptes, amazin

MD5 listing format

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
I was taken by surprise by the following output from md5sum: $ ls -Glg special/ total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 144 Oct 24 2014 'C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt' -rw-r--r-- 1 144 Oct 24 2014 same-contents $ echo special/* special/C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt special/same-contents $ md5sum special/* \adfc1d2f1b1d

Re: MD5 listing format

2021-11-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 12:57:00PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > I was taken by surprise by the following output from md5sum: > $ echo special/* > special/C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt special/same-contents > $ md5sum special/* > \adfc1d2f1b1d6c7fcaa51e857c1a6f68 special/C:\\nppdf32Log\\debuglog.txt >

Re: MD5 listing format

2021-11-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > I was taken by surprise by the following output from md5sum: > \adfc1d2f1b1d6c7fcaa51e857c1a6f68 special/C:\\nppdf32Log\\debuglog.txt It's a feature, not a bug. (tm) https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/md5sum-invocation.html "Without --zero, if

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread harryweaver
-- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox. 29 Nov 2021, 02:22 by terence.j...@gmail.com: > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search > result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. > > Has anyone else the same problem/ > > No problem here, on SI

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Nicolas George
Terence (12021-11-28): > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no > search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. > > Has anyone else the same problem/ I do not know if it is related, but I have observed problems of parts of some pages not displaying, or displayi

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 28. November 2021, 20:22:25 CET schrieb harrywea...@tutanota.com: Running debian/stable, amd64, fully updated. No problems here. Just a guess: Are you running NoScript plugin im Firefox? Maybe it is not trusted. Have fun! Hans > > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as nor

ceph storage

2021-11-28 Thread Gokan Atmaca
Hello I am installing ceph storage. I have 3 monitors, 3 OSD servers. I am using the link below for installation. (*) The error I get is as follows. I couldn't run "fdisk" on the OSD server. What could cause the problem? (*) https://github.com/ceph/ceph-deploy.git error: # ceph-deploy disk li

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 09:10:54 -0800 Gene Heskett wrote: > Where do I start on a new buster net install? The backups are all > from stretch. All I want is the data. So how do make /bin/tar > usable/secure? You should have no issue recovering Buster era amanda backups on a Bullseye installation. I

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:38:19 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? > > Celejar writes: > > No, I had never heard of it. Do you? > > Yes. > > > No, I had never heard of it. Do you? No package depends on [it]... > > True. > > > ...or eve

Re: ceph storage

2021-11-28 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Gokan Atmaca wrote on 28/11/2021 at 20:39:51+0100: > Hello > > I am installing ceph storage. I have 3 monitors, 3 OSD servers. I am > using the link below for installation. (*) The error I get is as > follows. I couldn't run "fdisk" on the OSD server. > > What could cause the problem? > > > (*)

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > ...or even "recommends" that one... I wrote: > How do you know? Celejar writes: > $ apt-cache rdepends fonts-recommended > fonts-recommended > Reverse Depends: That doesn't show recommends. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Sun Nov 28 11:38:54 2021 Celejar wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 22:58:58 -0600 > David Wright wrote: > >> On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 07:22:45 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: >> >>> Celejar writes: >>> I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA software, as opposed to web

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 14:11:27 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > ...or even "recommends" that one... > > I wrote: > > How do you know? > > Celejar writes: > > $ apt-cache rdepends fonts-recommended > > fonts-recommended > > Reverse Depends: > > That doesn't show recommends. Yes, i

Re: MD5 listing format

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 20:21:15 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > I was taken by surprise by the following output from md5sum: > > \adfc1d2f1b1d6c7fcaa51e857c1a6f68 special/C:\\nppdf32Log\\debuglog.txt > > It's a feature, not a bug. (tm) > > > https://www.gnu.org/softwar

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 15:43:52 (-0500), Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 14:11:27 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > > Celejar writes: > > > ...or even "recommends" that one... > > > > I wrote: > > > How do you know? > > > > Celejar writes: > > > $ apt-cache rdepends fonts-recommended > > > fonts-re

Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 11:54:16 (-0800), Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On Sun Nov 28 11:38:54 2021 Celejar wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 22:58:58 -0600 David Wright wrote: > >> On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 07:22:45 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > >>> Celejar writes: > >>> > I'm curious: do most users of Debia

Re: Impossible to give "write" permission on a sub folder

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 17:45:33 (+0100), lists.deb...@netc.eu wrote: > Thansk for the answer. To be honest to you, I already checked all that. Both > User1 and User2 folders have have exactly the same permission sets on Windows > (they both herit them from the Documents folder). Were this a windo

Re: MD5 listing format

2021-11-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > My solution will be to rename or delete the file, > after adding code to detect any future occurrences. Or you could avoid to show md5sum a file name. path=...as.weird.as.is... md5sum <"$path" will yield something like b8ce6ed30aa67e94ad9276c9ac2bbc50 - If you

Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-28 Thread lou
Thank David! i want info about wifi adapters supported by kernel without using non-free firmware. i haven't been able to find such info in linux-doc yes, search for such info isn't easy, i give up many web pages have stories of linux users' success with wifi adapter but they might use non-f

Re: ceph storage

2021-11-28 Thread Gokan Atmaca
> I could be wrong, but isn't ceph-deploy deprecated? I did not use native package. I'm still testing. > Regarding your specific error, it'd be worth diving in the python code > and try to put some debug prints at some relevant steps. Python3 is > trying to decode a string, which can't work, as s

Fw: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Charles Curley
Begin forwarded message: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:52:40 -0800 From: Gene Heskett To: charlescur...@charlescurley.com Subject: Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1 I have installed bullseye now, but still can't install anything fom trinity despite installing the keyrnig a

Re: MD5 listing format

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 23:40:43 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > My solution will be to rename or delete the file, > > after adding code to detect any future occurrences. > > Or you could avoid to show md5sum a file name. > > path=...as.weird.as.is... > md5sum <"$path"

Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 21:43:04 (-0500), lou wrote: > Thank David! > > i want info about wifi adapters supported by kernel without using > non-free firmware. > > i haven't been able to find such info in linux-doc > > yes, search for such info isn't easy, i give up > > many web pages have stories

Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 26 Nov 2021 at 17:03:37 (+0100), Christian Britz wrote: > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > AFAICT most of the files in `linux-doc/Documentation` are compressed, > > so you'd need to use `zgrep`. > > This actually works recursively with the zgrep command from the zutils > package, thank you! >

Re: Apt pinning.

2021-11-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 07:13:09 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 19:07:14 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I don't think I can do this with a generic pin. Maybe pinning > > > origin "" to -100 might work - not sure if that

Re: Fw: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 09:03:21PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > I have installed bullseye now, but still can't install anything fom > trinity despite installing the keyrnig and the updatig it wth synaptic. > What the hell is going on? We don't know because despite being repeatedly aske

Re: new buster install, dvd said 11.,1 but installed 10.1

2021-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
Andy Smith composed on 2021-11-29 05:02 (UTC): > What is Trinity and is it actually packaged in Debian? If not, I > think you should be seeking help with the Trinity upstream. It's packaged /for/ Debian (amon

Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-28 Thread lou
Thank David, you have better memory than i my memory is poor because of insomnia

Debian 11 on old Macbook

2021-11-28 Thread frantal
Ok, since this is how it works I keep it that way. I thank everyone for the tips and advice. Francesco