Re: dpkg SquirrelMail on Jessie

> hobie of RMN wrote: >> Restating: I've installed the *.deb of Squirrelmail 1.4.23 SVN but don['t >> see where to direct the browser in order to engage with it. Anyone know...? > The package should contain a configuration making it available via http(s)://server.name/squirrelmail > But how and i

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

Question. What does the following mean? # find /dev -follow -printf "" find: '/dev/fd/4': No such file or directory

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

On 2021-01-20 08:40, steve wrote: Question. What does the following mean? # find /dev -follow -printf "" find: '/dev/fd/4': No such file or directory I don't know but they look to be symlinks that get created to pseudo terminals /dev/pts/0 by eg ssh, telnet. Maybe a session crashed and left

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 09:40:46AM +0100, steve wrote: > Question. What does the following mean? > > # find /dev -follow -printf "" > find: '/dev/fd/4': No such file or directory This is funny. At first I thought I could reproduce it by tricking `find' into following a broken symlink, but with a

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

Thanks Mike and Thomas for the answers. Le 20-01-2021, à 10:15:09 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 09:40:46AM +0100, steve wrote: Question. What does the following mean? # find /dev -follow -printf "" find: '/dev/fd/4': No such file or directory This is funny. At fi

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:49:08AM +0100, steve wrote: > Thanks Mike and Thomas for the answers. > > Le 20-01-2021, à 10:15:09 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > >On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 09:40:46AM +0100, steve wrote: > >>Question. What does the following mean? > >> > >># find /dev -follow -pr

Help request installing wi-fi/video-card proprietary drivers [Debian 10 stable]

Hi, I'm relatively new to Linux (~1 year distro-hopping dual-booting with win10) and a week ago I decided to install Debian 10 stable over Manjaro on my laptop. After the first (unsuccessful) attempt on installing a non-free firmware-included unofficial iso (live), I managed to install the offi

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

Le 20-01-2021, à 10:58:54 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : >># find /dev -follow -printf "" >>find: '/dev/fd/4': No such file or directory > >This is funny. At first I thought I could reproduce it by tricking `find' >into following a broken symlink, but with a "static" setup I couldn't. > >Stil

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:15:26AM +0100, steve wrote: > Le 20-01-2021, à 10:58:54 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > # find /dev -follow -printf "" [...] > >This process in this case is the one running `find' itself. At the [...] > Ah ok, I misunderstood that. Very interesting indeed.

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

Le 20-01-2021, à 11:20:25 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : The /proc file system is pretty interesting indeed. But I don't think that is at the root of your strange problem. ... My current is to find out why my system is spitting out these 'too many symnolic links' messages and then fix it

Bluewin bouncing my mails [was: Too many levels of symbolic links]

And oh, btw. Steve your provider, bluewin.ch is bouncing my mails. It seems it is using some "Cloudmark CSI Reputation Service" as anti-spam measure. When I go to the form in their bounce message [1], they present me with a form requesting my personal data. To me, this looks like a scam by Cloud

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

Le 20/01/2021 à 10:49, steve a écrit : Thanks Mike and Thomas for the answers. Le 20-01-2021, à 10:15:09 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 09:40:46AM +0100, steve wrote: Question. What does the following mean? # find /dev -follow -printf "" find: '/dev/fd/4': No such

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:30:50AM +0100, Erwan David wrote: [...] > it is not missing : it disapears. And /dev/fd/4 is a link to a file > opend by find itself, it is sufficient that find closes it and the > name does not exist anymore. Thanks for putting this in a less roundabout way than I did

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

Le 20-01-2021, à 11:30:50 +0100, Erwan David a écrit : What is strange is that it is always /dev/fd/4 that is missing, even after a reboot. it is not missing : it disapears. And /dev/fd/4 is a link to a file opend by find itself, it is sufficient that find closes it and the name does not e

Re: Bluewin bouncing my mails

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:11:05PM +0100, steve wrote: > Thomas, > > I think we can keep this private since it is not Debian specific. Sorry for CC'ing the list again, but for me, this is the only way to reach you. Direct messages... bounce (I tried again). > Thanks for letting me know of this p

Debian jessie > buster IPv6 link scope change of behaviour

Hello, I experiment a change of behaviour between the kernel of Debian jessie and Debian buster. Namely, before, ping6 fe80::1 would fail, since it is ambiguous (fe80::1 is a link scope, thus a zone/interface scope ID is required). With buster, it tries the first Ethernet interface, no error (un

Re: Help request installing wi-fi/video-card proprietary drivers [Debian 10 stable]

ueki...@libero.it writes: Hi, I'm relatively new to Linux (~1 year distro-hopping dual-booting with win10) and a week ago I decided to install Debian 10 stable over Manjaro on my laptop. After the first (unsuccessful) attempt on installing a non-free firmware-included unofficial iso (live)

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

> # find /dev -follow -printf "" You want `-mount` in there so you don't enter things like `/dev/fd` or `/dev/shm`. Stefan

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

Le 20-01-2021, à 10:15:47 -0500, Stefan Monnier a écrit : # find /dev -follow -printf "" You want `-mount` in there so you don't enter things like `/dev/fd` or `/dev/shm`. I tried that on / and got no output at all. But still have the same messages in syslog at boot time. Thanks.

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

Gary Dale wrote: ... the problem is still there with the recent version of Filezilla that showed up in testing (3.52.0.5-1). i see there is a bug filed via GNUTLS: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=980119 not sure what progress is actually being made. songbird

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

On Wed, 2021-01-20 at 10:44 -0500, songbird wrote: > Gary Dale wrote: > ... > > the problem is still there with the recent version of Filezilla > that showed up in testing (3.52.0.5-1). > > > i see there is a bug filed via GNUTLS: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=9801

Re: Help request installing wi-fi/video-card proprietary drivers [Debian 10 stable]

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:46:51AM +0100, ueki...@libero.it wrote: > Hi, > > I'm relatively new to Linux (~1 year distro-hopping dual-booting with win10) > and a week ago I decided to install Debian 10 stable over Manjaro on my > laptop. After the first (unsuccessful) attempt on installing a non

Re: Help request installing wi-fi/video-card proprietary drivers [Debian 10 stable]

On 2021-01-20 01:46, ueki...@libero.it wrote: Hi, I'm relatively new to Linux (~1 year distro-hopping dual-booting with win10) and a week ago I decided to install Debian 10 stable over Manjaro on my laptop. After the first (unsuccessful) attempt on installing a non-free firmware-included unof

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

Philip Wyett wrote: ... > As stated in other mails. This is why their is stable/production and we > should rely on those and not testing. ;-) yes, of course. :) why i keep a booting stable partition handy. songbird

Re: x2goagent: high CPU load with Xfce 4.16

On 14.01.21 01:44, Sven Hartge wrote: Stefan Pietsch wrote: I am experiencing problems with X2Go on a virtual server machine I am connecting to. The process x2goagent on the server has high CPU usage (nearly 100%) when connecting with x2goclient and selecting Xfce as desktop environment. CP

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

> Le 20-01-2021, à 10:15:47 -0500, Stefan Monnier a écrit : >>> # find /dev -follow -printf "" >>You want `-mount` in there so you don't enter things like `/dev/fd` or >>`/dev/shm`. > I tried that on / Not a good idea: the `-mount` will then preventing it from entering `/dev` since `/dev` is usual

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau (was: Help request installing wi-fi/video-card prop...)

David Christensen composed on 2021-01-20 11:33 (UTC-0800): > I have a ~2011 Dell Latitude E6520 laptop with Nvidia Optimus graphics. > It has always required non-free firmware for the Wi-Fi. On Debian 9 > with the free nouveau driver, the graphics work fine; both internal and > external. I re

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

On 2021-01-20 16:45 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > In 2008 a new technology DDX driver's development was begun: > > The new technology made it hardware independent, able to be used by

Re: Help request installing wi-fi/video-card proprietary drivers [Debian 10 stable]

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:58:41 +0100 Linux-Fan wrote: ... > NVidia GPU on laptop can be difficult. In fact, I never managed to get mine > working (on laptops newer than 2006 that is, old ones used to work). This > wiki page might be relevant for you, too: > > https://wiki.debian.org/NVIDIA%20

new harddrive degraded speed

i bought a new harddrive western digital red plus 6tb === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Red Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1 Serial Number:WD-WX62D60C9L6X LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 212e6b9ad Firmware Version: 82.00A82 User Capacity:6,001,175,126

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

brainf...@posteo.net wrote: > why is the speed 3.0 gbs > i have 4 other drive i have tested with this device and they all  use > 6.0 gbs check cables, connectors and controller - here 2TB WD20EFRX is on LSI that supports only SATA 2

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

brainf...@posteo.net wrote: > i bought a new harddrive > western digital red plus 6tb > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family: Western Digital Red > Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1 > Serial Number:WD-WX62D60C9L6X > LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 212e6b9ad > Firmware Ver

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): > On 2021-01-20 16:45 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Its life as a separate package then ceased as well. It was moved into the >> server >> package. I never found an announcement to the effect, but I believe this >> move in >> effect made it t

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

On 2021-01-20 06:17 PM, deloptes wrote: brainf...@posteo.net wrote: why is the speed 3.0 gbs i have 4 other drive i have tested with this device and they all  use 6.0 gbs check cables, connectors and controller - here 2TB WD20EFRX is on LSI that supports only SATA 2 this device is a od

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

brainf...@posteo.net composed on 2021-01-20 17:21 (UTC-0600): > i bought a new harddrive > western digital red plus 6tb ... > Model Family: Western Digital Red > Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1 ... > why is the speed 3.0 gbs > i have 4 other drive i have tested with this device and t

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

On 2021-01-20 at 19:32, Felix Miata wrote: > Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): > >> On 2021-01-20 16:45 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Its life as a separate package then ceased as well. It was moved >>> into the server package. I never found an announcement to the >>> effec

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

On 2021-01-20 06:44 PM, Felix Miata wrote: brainf...@posteo.net composed on 2021-01-20 17:21 (UTC-0600): i bought a new harddrive western digital red plus 6tb ... Model Family: Western Digital Red Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1 ... why is the speed 3.0 gbs i have 4 other driv

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

brainf...@posteo.net wrote: > > 6tb drive at 3.0 gbs > root@hc4:~# hdparm -t /dev/sda > > /dev/sda: > Timing buffered disk reads: 406 MB in 3.01 seconds = 134.83 MB/sec > > > 2tb drive at 6.0 gbs > root@hc4:~# hdparm -t /dev/sdb > > /dev/sdb: > Timing buffered disk reads: 436 MB in 3.00

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

On 2021-01-20 07:26 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: brainf...@posteo.net wrote: 6tb drive at 3.0 gbs root@hc4:~# hdparm -t /dev/sda /dev/sda: Timing buffered disk reads: 406 MB in 3.01 seconds = 134.83 MB/sec 2tb drive at 6.0 gbs root@hc4:~# hdparm -t /dev/sdb /dev/sdb: Timing buffered disk re

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

The Wanderer composed on 2021-01-20 19:44 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): >>> the upstream Xorg server still uses a graphics card >>> specific driver if available. >> That was exactly one of my points. "If available" equates to they are

installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it. I would like to install debian 10 on it, but the installer really wants access to a cd drive, and one just isn't available. However, the linux mint 16.04 system does have grub2 on it. So it is possible for me to boot from an iso image s

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

Dan Hitt composed on 2021-01-20 20:31 (UTC-0800): > Or perhaps there's some other way to approach the problem? I can't recall ever installation of any Debian except by the NET method. The only things I download prior to beginning installation on a system with a working Grub is the NET installa

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

> i bought a new harddrive > western digital red plus 6tb > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family: Western Digital Red > Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1 > Serial Number:WD-WX62D60C9L6X > LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 212e6b9ad > Firmware Version: 82.00A82 > User Capacity

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 (-0800), Dan Hitt wrote: > I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it. > > I would like to install debian 10 on it, but the installer really wants > access to a cd drive, and one just isn't available. > > However, the linux mint 16.04 system does hav

[OT] Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 21:17:30 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > When I want TV I use a TV and remote controller and an easy chair or sofa, > not a > workchair and desk and rodent and keyboard and all the distractions of > multitasking. My computers are general purpose tools for getting work done. >

Re: Debian jessie > buster IPv6 link scope change of behaviour

On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 14:46:31 (+0100), Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > > I experiment [experienced] a change of behaviour between the kernel of Debian > jessie > and Debian buster. > > Namely, before, ping6 fe80::1 would fail, since it is ambiguous (fe80::1 > is a link scope, thus a zone/interface scope

Re: [OT] Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

David Wright composed on 2021-01-20 23:58 (UTC-0600): > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 21:17:30 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: >> When I want TV I use a TV and remote controller and an easy chair or sofa, >> not a >> workchair and desk and rodent and keyboard and all the distractions of >> multitasking. My

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

Le 20-01-2021, à 16:06:53 -0500, Stefan Monnier a écrit : Le 20-01-2021, à 10:15:47 -0500, Stefan Monnier a écrit : # find /dev -follow -printf "" You want `-mount` in there so you don't enter things like `/dev/fd` or `/dev/shm`. I tried that on / Not a good idea: the `-mount` will then pre

Re: Debian jessie > buster IPv6 link scope change of behaviour

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:59:46PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > As far as the address is concerned, fe80::1 is perfectly formed, > but ambiguous. Is that what your jessie error message used to say? The error was one of the usual kernel errors (-EINVALID probably), see below. Actually, stretch doe

Re: Debian jessie > buster IPv6 link scope change of behaviour

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 08:04:05AM +0100, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > fe80::1 is specifically a link-local scope, a bit like if you try to > access a class variable without telling in what class it is. Reading RFC-4291 [1], 2.5.6 (link-local addresses) and RFC-4007 [2] 6, Zones Indices: Because the

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

I have rebooted with udev_log=debug in /etc/udev/udev.conf. I see Jan 21 08:15:28 box systemd-udevd[607]: sdc6: Failed to update device symlinks: Too many levels of symbolic links Jan 21 08:15:28 box systemd-udevd[607]: sdc6: Preserve already existing symlink '/dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:17.0

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

On Jo, 21 ian 21, 08:34:34, steve wrote: > I have rebooted with udev_log=debug in /etc/udev/udev.conf. I see > > Jan 21 08:15:28 box systemd-udevd[607]: sdc6: Failed to update device > symlinks: Too many levels of symbolic links > Jan 21 08:15:28 box systemd-udevd[607]: sdc6: Preserve already exi