On Ma, 15 sep 20, 18:50:57, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 15 Sep 2020 at 21:23:20 (+0200), Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY wrote:
> >
> > Do you think the behaviour "without Recommends" should be an option
> > presented to the user?
>
> No. On the basis of little evidence, I think naive users need software
On 09/15/2020 06:50 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Tue 15 Sep 2020 at 21:23:20 (+0200), Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY wrote:
Brian writes:
On Mon 14 Sep 2020 at 08:12:50 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
The Debian desktop environment installs task-desktop. This package
recommends desktop task packages. task-gn
On Sb, 12 sep 20, 15:00:57, Bob Weber wrote:
>
> Warning: If you forget to open and mount the file encrypted.img to
> $HOME/Private/ and you copy files to $HOME/Private/ it will appear to work
> correctly but they will not be encrypted! If you don't move the files out
> of $HOME/Private/ before y
Marc Shapiro wrote:
...
> If it is possible to do what I want, what is the easiest way to
> accomplish it?
i haven't tried that as i'm ok with what i have going but
i'll be interested in what you find out.
can you clone your current partition and then try it out
and if it doesn't work then y
The default of copying an ISO file to a device is inconvenient for my
peculiar goals.
I want an executable installer resident on an ext4 formatted partition.
It must be possible. A testable installer preceded ISO format.
I'm working thru https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03,
in pa
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 07:28:34PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I want sysvinit, not systemd
Should be easy.
> I ran 'aptitude install sysvinit-core'.
> This gives me another screen full of text [...]
> Now I get a full screen of packages to be removed. [...]
I think the basic problem here is
On Ma, 15 sep 20, 19:28:34, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>
> I ran 'aptitude install sysvinit-core'. This resulted in about 2 dozen
> packages to be removed (some of which, I would have removed anyway) and a
> similar number with unmet dependencies (mostly recommends). I can live with
> that and work aro
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 04:54:57 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> Agreed. Where the menu says "Debian desktop environment" I would:
> 1. remove the check-box.
> 2. rephrase it as "Chose a Debian desktop environment".
> 3. add a default check by GNOME.
+1 -- that seems much clearer t
Hi.
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 07:28:34PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> So, my question is: Can I replace systemd with sysvint and still keep MATE?
Exibit 1 (mate-core and systemd-sysv are installed):
# apt install sysvinit-core systemd-
...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
caja db
Looking at the Wikipedia entry for Devuan -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devuan - it appears that the folks over there
have had to modify precisely udisks2 and policykit. This is not a Devuan
support list - but it looks as if stock Debian may not allow the switch
once a full system is installed. I
On 09/16/2020 07:23 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 04:54:57 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
Agreed. Where the menu says "Debian desktop environment" I would:
1. remove the check-box.
2. rephrase it as "Chose a Debian desktop environment".
3. add a default
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 19:28:34 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I have a fresh install of Buster which is running MATE as the Desktop
> Environment. […] The next thing that I
> want to do is replace systemd with sysvinit.
>
> Now I get a full screen of packages to be removed. Most are librarie
> Anyone here have any experience with Amazon Workspaces' Linux client?
> https://clients.amazonworkspaces.com/ It looks like it's for Ubuntu
> 18.4. Will Debian Buster be close enough?
> I hesitate to install a binary blob from Amazon without first checking
> here.
Not sure what you're worrying a
On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 08:23:50 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 04:54:57 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> > Agreed. Where the menu says "Debian desktop environment" I would:
> > 1. remove the check-box.
A user now cannot install task-desktop alone. In other words,
On 9/15/20 8:53 PM, Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY wrote:
> Nate Bargmann writes:
>
>> I am going to be deploying a Debian system at a location where I am
>> unsure if I can make any inbound connection into that system. I am
>> going to set up an SSH tunnel from that system to a host in my LAN.
>> What I
On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 19:28:34 -0700
Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I have a fresh install of Buster which is running MATE as the Desktop
> Environment. It has taken me until now to get it working, without
> messing up my current Stretch install on the same machine. The next
> thing that I want to do i
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> To make a long story short, after two or so weeks of research and
> numerous failed trials, I came to the conclusion that systemd has
> become too entrenched in the dependency tree of Buster to successfully
> convert to systvinit.
I
Hi.
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> dbus, which is an xorg dependency,
Not in buster:
# apt policy dbus
dbus:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 1.12.20-0+deb10u1
Version table:
1.12.20-0+deb10u1 500
500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian buster/m
On 2020-09-16 01:59, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 12 sep 20, 15:00:57, Bob Weber wrote:
Warning: If you forget to open and mount the file encrypted.img to
$HOME/Private/ and you copy files to $HOME/Private/ it will appear to work
correctly but they will not be encrypted! If you don't move the
Reco wrote:
> > To make a long story short, after two or so weeks of research and
> > numerous failed trials, I came to the conclusion that systemd has
> > become too entrenched in the dependency tree of Buster to successfully
> > convert to systvinit.
>
> But it is possible. Just forget about ru
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 03:41:41PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Reco wrote:
> > > To make a long story short, after two or so weeks of research and
> > > numerous failed trials, I came to the conclusion that systemd has
> > > become too entrenched in the dependency tree of Buster to successfully
> >
On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 12:56:36 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-09-16 01:59, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Sb, 12 sep 20, 15:00:57, Bob Weber wrote:
> > >
> > > Warning: If you forget to open and mount the file encrypted.img to
> > > $HOME/Private/ and you copy files to $HOME/Private/ it
firefox can show chinese page except in title bar(though in each tab's window,
title is correctly shown)
i use twm and below is option in /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc
TitleFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*"
i delete line above, it doesn't help
both stretch and buster have this
* On 2020 16 Sep 12:08 -0500, Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
> btw, there is package authprogs, doing exactly that and not only.
It seems to only be in Bullseye right now. It's not in Buster nor
Buster backports. As the target computer is a Freedombox, it is running
Buster so I will have to see if I
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:52:15 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > To make a long story short, after two or so weeks of research and
> > numerous failed trials, I came to the conclusion that systemd has
> > become too entrenched in the de
On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 22:16:22 (+), Long Wind wrote:
> firefox can show chinese page except in title bar(though in each tab's
> window, title is correctly shown)
Firefox is responsible for everything inside the window, but the
window manager decorates the window frame.
> i use twm and below
On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 03:54:57 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 09/15/2020 06:50 PM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Tue 15 Sep 2020 at 21:23:20 (+0200), Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY wrote:
> > > Brian writes:
> > > > On Mon 14 Sep 2020 at 08:12:50 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Debian des
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 22:22:17 +0300
Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > dbus, which is an xorg dependency,
>
> Not in buster:
>
> # apt policy dbus
> dbus:
> Installed: (none)
> Candidate: 1.12.20-0+deb10u1
> Version table:
>
in stretch i delete TitleFont in system.twmrc and .twmrc at home
now it can show chinese title
Thank David anyway!
On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 07:41:19 (-0500), Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2020 12 Sep 02:06 -0500, Lone Learner wrote:
> > POSIX.1-2001 Utilities[1] and POSIX.1-2008 Utilities[2] both list the
> > commands "bc" and "ed" to be part of POSIX.
> >
> > Yet, in a brand new Debian installation (version 10 for
On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 16:15:12 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:52:15 -0400
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > > To make a long story short, after two or so weeks of research and
> > > numerous failed trials, I came
On 9/16/20, Long Wind wrote:
> in stretch i delete TitleFont in system.twmrc and .twmrc at home
> now it can show chinese title
Maybe you want to inform twm developers so they can do something about this...?
Best regards!
On 17/09/2020 10:16, Long Wind wrote:
firefox can show chinese page except in title bar(though in each tab's window,
title is correctly shown)
i use twm and below is option in /etc/X11/twm/system.twmrc
TitleFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*"
i delete line above, it doesn't
On Thu 17 Sep 2020 at 01:01:14 (+), Long Wind wrote:
> in stretch i delete TitleFont in system.twmrc and .twmrc at home
> now it can show chinese title
>
> Thank David anyway!
I don't know which fonts you had installed on stretch, nor what you
have in buster. Assuming that "delete TitleFo
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 21:29, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I want an executable installer resident on an ext4 formatted partition.
> What reference am I missing?
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s04.en.html
Thank Ben! twm meets my needs. i've tried xfce for fedora, i'm not impressed.
i think lxde is better than xfce.i can display chinese with English localeif i
set locale to Chinese, English font become ugly
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 19:55:45 -0500
David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 16:15:12 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:52:15 -0400
> > Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > > > To make a long story short, aft
On 9/16/20 5:55 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 16:15:12 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:52:15 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
To make a long story short, after two or so weeks of research and
numer
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 19:44:03 -0700
Marc Shapiro wrote:
> On 9/16/20 5:55 PM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 16:15:12 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:52:15 -0400
> >> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14AM -0700, Patrick Bartek
On 9/16/20 9:12 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 19:44:03 -0700
Marc Shapiro wrote:
On 9/16/20 5:55 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 16 Sep 2020 at 16:15:12 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:52:15 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:32:14A
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